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Old 25th April 2009, 11:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Punisher of the Gods ?

Are people playing this or in the general forum is it treated as broken and people dont use it.
Besides abusing it with special combo's is it abuse just using it normally, would be interested to hear everyone's views.
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The problem with your question, at least to me, is that people pick paths based on what will benefit them the most. This naturally sets up combos.

Given that basic method, yes, the punisher of the gods epic destiny does tend to cause unusually high-powered characters compared to other epics.

If someone were to play certain things though, and somehow think that the title of that Epic Destiny were enough to make them cool, then yes, it may yield a basic character progression that would probably come across as boring or useless.
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I'll admit that part of me suspects that when my games hit epic I may have to design new epic destinies for all the PCs, as many of the current ones have serious issues.

Though thankfully I avoid the most stupid stuff if I just stop the game at 29th, say.
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Though thankfully I avoid the most stupid stuff if I just stop the game at 29th, say.
Oh come on. If you've already played for 29 levels, you may as well do that 1 last level and let the players do stupid stuff for a little while; they earned it, right? Plus, come on, they're level 30!

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Oh come on. If you've already played for 29 levels, you may as well do that 1 last level and let the players do stupid stuff for a little while; they earned it, right? Plus, come on, they're level 30!

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Totally agree... If you have played all the way from 1 - 29... and then not let me play lvl 30 for a day or two? I'd be finding me a new DM lol... sorry, but Let em have their fun, for next week they are wimps again hehe
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Eh, some of the level 30 things are literally stupid - of almost no matter, while others are enough to break any combat. I don't see that there would be any need at all to play at that level for any combat that matters to the game itself, if using broken destinies.

With ones that weren't broken, sure, or if perhaps doing a 'return to the Shire and tromping Saruman' type action, perhaps. Just for silliness.
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Punisher of the Gods ?
Are people playing this or in the general forum is it treated as broken and people dont use it.
Besides abusing it with special combo's is it abuse just using it normally, would be interested to hear everyone's views.


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Punisher of the Gods ?
Are people playing this or in the general forum is it treated as broken and people dont use it.
Besides abusing it with special combo's is it abuse just using it normally, would be interested to hear everyone's views.


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What is Punisher of the Gods? (OK, I gather it's an epic destiny, but I couldn't have guessed that from the original post.) What book/magazine issue is it from? What do you think is borked about it?

If you include the answers to questions like these when you ask the question, you have a much better chance of getting useful responses.
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According to google, it is from dragon 372, some manual of the planes destiny. It supposedly has some encounter power which gives you an AP on a crit against a designated target (and using this does not count towards your 1 AP/encounter limit), so you can potentially get a lot of extra action this way (especially if you use some multi-hitting power such as twin-strike) and at lv 30, they automatically deal max damage against the cursed target.

No comments on its power level though.
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So what do you think about the legality of POTG's Pirate ?
Is it broken cheese or legitimate rules ?
Wow. I am impressed with your maturity, Sir (or Madam).

I don't see PotG as overpowered, simply Avenger taken to an extreme. Yay, you get tons of action points when you crit your cursed enemy. You also max out damage against it.

So?

Unlike far too many destinies, you only gain 'immortality' against your cursed enemy - great if you fight tons of solos, but nowhere near as overpowered as some destinies.
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Hmm; best to head this off at the pass. Please see my email. In the interim, thread closed.
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Old 29th April 2009, 11:43 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Wow. I am impressed with your maturity, Sir (or Madam).

I don't see PotG as overpowered, simply Avenger taken to an extreme. Yay, you get tons of action points when you crit your cursed enemy. You also max out damage against it.

So?

Unlike far too many destinies, you only gain 'immortality' against your cursed enemy - great if you fight tons of solos, but nowhere near as overpowered as some destinies.
Why thank you my friend, I really appreciate you considerations and thoughtful overtures.
I was hoping to acquire some valuable insight into whether people considered it broken or not.

Our DM seems to think it is, so I might just go Deadly Trickster
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It is no more broken than, say, a battle rage vigor (BRV) fighter...

Only broken if your DM doesn't change tactics and allows it to be that way...

My current thoughts are to make an Avenger(MC:Paladin), Son of Mercy, Punisher of the Gods... hehe

Dunno how well it would work, but definitely be fun, as you can do all three's Oaths on one person, or put em on different people, etc...
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