D&D 4th Edition RulesAsk questions about 4th-Edition rules and the like in here. General discussion about 4E or any other game belongs in General RPG Discussion, above.
I haven't read Adventurer's Vault but I have heard people praising the Full Blade. It is a 2-handed +3 proficiency 1d12 damage weapon that requires an exotic weapon proficiency, right?
If so, isn't a Bastard Sword (same as above, except 1d10+1 damage when wielded in two hands) just as good?
__________________ 28 days... six hours... 42 minutes... 12 seconds. That... is when the world... will end.
Other than that, the +1 damage from wielding the Bastard Sword 2-handed is not part of the [W] damage, and so is not multiplied by high [W] attacks. The Fullblade also does higher damage on a crit (even setting aside the High Crit property).
The Fullblade is a good alternative to the Bastard sword, together with a lot of other weapons like the tripple headed flail, etc. More diversity = good.
(The weapon selection in the PHB is too low I think)
I haven't read Adventurer's Vault but I have heard people praising the Full Blade. It is a 2-handed +3 proficiency 1d12 damage weapon that requires an exotic weapon proficiency, right?
If so, isn't a Bastard Sword (same as above, except 1d10+1 damage when wielded in two hands) just as good?
As others have pointed out, that +1 isn't per-[W]. On a 3[W] attack, a bastard sword would deal 3d10+modifiers+1, not 3d10+modifiers+3.
Also, the fullblade is high-crit, which always helps!
The bastard sword is a very respectable 1-handed weapon, and can even hold its own versus martial 2-handed weapons. But it can't keep up with 2-handed exotic weapons for major smashing power.
As mentioned above, fullblade deals more damage per [W], 1d12 is better than 1d10 on a crit, the fullblade is high crit.
Also the fullblade is a two handed weapon for barbarians etc, I do not believe the bastard sword counts as a two handed weapon for this purpose.
...still waiting for a 4E Oriental Adventures. WTB - No-Dachi. :P
With Katana = Bastard sword, I'd bet No.Dachi = Fullblade. And really, that's a bit too kind - the No-Dachi were never a really big hit in Japan. The Naginata (Glaive) was generally preferred for battlefield use.
__________________ Carl Cramér
Member of the Netbook of Feats review board.
Think of it this way. The Bastard sword is meant to be an upgrade from the Longsword, while the Fullblade is meant to be an upgrade from the Greatsword. The fact that the Bastard sword is also an upgrade from the Greatsword is a reflection of the fact that the Greatsword is kind of lame compared to other 2-handed weapons.
I feel this really inhibits creativity and and "Finding" new weapons say in a dungeons because chances are
You wouldn't use a bastard sword if you found one because you had to take a feat for an
"optimized" weapon
Bleh
This reads like a haiku.
It's always been the case that characters will have specialisations or exotic weapon proficiencies in particular weapons. Heck, your dwarf might find a magic longsword but prefer to stick with his axe because the imagery is better.
I guess I don't really see how this is a new problem in any way.
I guess I don't really see how this is a new problem in any way.
Especially with the Transfer Enchantment ritual being available. Find a really awesome flail, but you prefer your Fullblade you spent all your feats specializing in? Put the flail's enchantment on a Fullblade.