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Old 22nd June 2009, 11:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Extended Rest Rituals: Solace Bole vs. Fantastic Recuperation

In the latest Dragon (#265, page 50), there is a plot-device ritual scroll of a ritual called Solace Bole that allows an extended rest in 1 hour. In the Eberron Player's Guide p 116, there is a ritual named Fantastic Recuperation that does the same in a slightly different way.

The problem is that Solace Bole is in every way superior; lower level, cheaper, safer to use, and it does not have a cost that escalates over level. I like the concept of Solace Bile, but it is way overpowered.

The easiest fix I can see is to remove the time dilation of Solace Bole, saying the rest takes its normal time in the real world. Still, this would be a house rule, and those are emergency measures. Dungeon would have needed stronger editorial control on this.
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Old 22nd June 2009, 12:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Is that "Solace Bole" plot device ritual scroll regularly attainable, or it really just present in context of the adventure?
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Old 22nd June 2009, 12:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Is that "Solace Bole" plot device ritual scroll regularly attainable, or it really just present in context of the adventure?
It pops up as a generally available ritual in the Compendium when you do a search there, if I recall correctly.
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I don't know about the Eberron one, but Solace Bole is way over the top. You can even use it to abuse itself!
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I don't know about the Eberron one, but Solace Bole is way over the top. You can even use it to abuse itself!
You mean do another Solace Bole while inside a Solace Bole?
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You mean do another Solace Bole while inside a Solace Bole?
No, waste time in safety until you're able to do an extended rest again.

Your day can look like...
Wake up
fight
SB
SB with extended rest
fight
SB
SB with extended rest
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