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Old 19th August 2005, 01:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Grendel, from beowulf

I would like to stat out this horrible monster. If anyone here has read beowulf I invite them to join me in making him.
My thoughts are:
Large Size or bigger: They talk of him carrying 30 men and people talk of seeing giants in the moors. So he must be big.
Claws: Very damage claws because that seems to be his main weapon.
Stealthy: I think he should either have gaseous form or really good move silently and hide in plain sight.
Half-Hag: Don't know if we should apply the template or apply half fiendish and half hag to a giant.

So what are some other thoughts on this matter?
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Old 19th August 2005, 01:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I've read only parts of the Beowulf legends, but I do think I can help on stating him out.

Make him unique monster, don't give him any templates. However, he should get some hag and fiendish abilities.
Definately high move silent and hide, and maybe hide in plain sight, but not gaseous form, as I don't remember them mentioning him having any similar ability.
MASSIVE strength score, probably at least thirty.
I agree, a good claw attack.
I think large size is more accurate for him than huge.
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Old 19th August 2005, 03:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm gonna start working out grendel as a giant type, I will post soon for the critics.
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Old 19th August 2005, 04:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Grendel
Large Giant (Evil)
Hitdice: 18d8+162 (243 hp)

Abilities: Strength 28 (+14) Dexterity 18 (+4) Constitution 26 (+8) Intelligence 12 (+1)Wisdom 14 (+2) Charisma 16 (+3)

Initiative: (+4 dexterity,

Speed: 40 feet (8 squares)

Armor Class: 26 (10, +4 dexterity, -1 size, +13 natural armor) Touch 13, Flat-Footed 23

Attack: +27 Claw (+13 bab, +14 strength)(20 is targeted attack bonus) 1d8+21(19-20/x2)

Full Attack: +27 Claw 1d10+21 (19-20/x2)/+27 Claw 1d10+21 (19-20/x2)/ +22 Bite 1d8+7

Space/Reach: 10 feet/10 feet

Special Attacks: Rend, SA +3d6,

Special Qualities: Damage Reduction 15//Good and Silver, Spell Resistance 25, Hide in Plain Sight

Saving Throws: Fortitude +19 (11 base, +8 constitution) Reflex +10 (+6 base, +4 dexterity) Will +10 (+6 base, +2 wisdom, +2 feat)

Skills: Spot + 12 (10 ranks, 2 ability) , Listen +13 (11 ranks, 2ability) , Move Silently +19 (13 ranks, 4 ability, +2 feat, ) , Hide +19 (13 ranks, 4 ability, +2 feat, ), Intimidate +14 (11 ranks, +3 charisma), Survival +7 (5 ranks, +2 ability)

Feats: Improved Natural Attack (Claw), Stealthy, Improved Toughness, Power Attack, Cleave, Great Cleave, Iron Will

Alignment: Chaotic Evil

CR: 11-14 ?

Rend(ex): If Grendel hits with both claw attacks, it latches onto the opponent’s body and tears the flesh. This attack automatically deals an additional 2d10+21 damage.

Sneak Attack(ex): +3d6 Sneak Attack damage as per the rogue class ability.

Hide In Plain Sight: Grendel can use hide while being observed.




How is this for a rough draft? Any comments on CR or so?
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Old 19th August 2005, 04:08 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I'd give him a bite attack of some kind, and perhaps DR 10/+3 or so. Grendal's mother would have a DR of 10/+5 (Beowulf used an ancient giant's sword to kill her IIRC.)
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Old 28th August 2005, 08:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Also, you miscalculated his strength modifier. It's +9, not +14.
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Old 28th August 2005, 08:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Wasn't Grendel posted in a recent Dragon issue with full stats?
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Old 28th August 2005, 10:17 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Wasn't Grendel posted in a recent Dragon issue with full stats?
Don't read Dragon, so I wouldn't know.
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Old 2nd September 2005, 11:36 PM   #9 (permalink)
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thanks for catching that about the strength, didn't go over it very well I'm afraid. I just kind of spit those stats out.
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Old 23rd September 2005, 02:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
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He at one point "casts a spell" that made the warrior's weapons useless. i doubt the warriors had magic weapons, unless you want to take that as the author's interpretation of what is, inherently, DR.
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Attack: +27 Claw (+13 bab, +14 strength)(20 is targeted attack bonus) 1d8+21(19-20/x2)

Full Attack: +27 Claw 1d10+21 (19-20/x2)/+27 Claw 1d10+21 (19-20/x2)/ +22 Bite 1d8+7...

How is this for a rough draft? Any comments on CR or so?
what does his claw do? 1d8 or 1d10. it's different in the attack and the full attack. You don't need to write up both claws, just say 2 claw.
How did he get a damage bonus of +21? str modifier is only +9?

Maybe make his DR only bypassable by weapons that are magic and silver
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