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Old 6th October 2006, 01:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Learning spells....

Nik mentioned last night about the crap wizards have to go thru to learn and scribe spells from another wizards spell-book.

Personally I think the way it's set down in the books is balls and we've never really adhered to it previously therefore just want your confirmation that it's ok to do away with that and just be able to use other books as is and scribe without cost, (actually it's more about being able to use another mages book).

The way I see it is that magic is just another language and I find it hard to visualize that every single mage writes magic in a different langauge, it just sounds absurd! Sure if the mage is maybe of a different race however a human mage should be able to use another mages book without having to decipher another human mages book and scribe into his own.

Your ruling would be appreciated on this Russ.
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Old 8th October 2006, 04:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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God, no! If I thought I was just handing out free spells, I'd wouldn't have given you an entire pile of them!
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Old 9th October 2006, 12:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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God, no! If I thought I was just handing out free spells, I'd wouldn't have given you an entire pile of them!
Ok nps, just gonna have to ask the guys for some sodding downtime then
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Old 9th October 2006, 05:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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To say nothing of 50(?)gp per page which you don't have.

There's something in the rules about familiarising yourself with someone else's spellbook, isn't there?
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Old 9th October 2006, 07:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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To say nothing of 50(?)gp per page which you don't have.

There's something in the rules about familiarising yourself with someone else's spellbook, isn't there?
Er, yeah thanks Nik for telling me how much gold I don't have....real useful bit of information?

Anyways it gets better, it cost 100gp/page and takes a day/level of the spell so I suppose I'll be able to scribe them when I'm about 7th level.

Stoopid ruling.

Familiarisation is no problem, I just cast read magic and it's automatic.
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In this case, we better enforce some serious downtime at regular intervals.

Otherwise you'll just be getting the 2 free spells at each level and that's silly!
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Old 10th October 2006, 01:07 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Hmmm... OK, I didn't realise it was quite that harsh!

I doubt money will be a problem as the campaign progresses (remember you've only just gotten partway into the first adventure so far).

How did we handle it in previous campaigns?
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Old 10th October 2006, 02:12 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Well the cost of scribing will be fine, I can put up with that. I'd suggest maybe reducing the time spent to scribe to 1 hour/level unless of course you just want to allow the downtime?

In previous campaigns we have just done away with all the normal rulings as far back as I can remember; when you find a new spell you just auto learn. Mind you me Wiz in the prev long campaign died pretty quickly.
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Old 10th October 2006, 05:32 PM   #9 (permalink)
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With Al scribing scrolls and me (probably at lvl 6) and Steve both having Craft Magic Item feats, there's likely to be a bit of a demand for downtime, anyway...
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Old 11th October 2006, 09:58 AM   #10 (permalink)
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With Al scribing scrolls and me (probably at lvl 6) and Steve both having Craft Magic Item feats, there's likely to be a bit of a demand for downtime, anyway...
However it would be nice to be able to use the new spells I get before I have to put another 3 levels under my belt.

Just remember it is for the benefit of the party.
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Old 11th October 2006, 12:58 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I was wondering guys if I could use the proceeds of our pawned loot such as the silverware etc. to front the cost of scribing some new spells into my book?

I have just taken Craft Wondrous Item as my 3rd feat as well if that helps you come to a favorable decision?
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We could flog the lot at the moment and come up with about enough money to let you scribe 3 spell levels into your book, I reckon.

That might not, therefore, be all that popular with some in the party!

(The most valuable item we have in the bag is... well, it's that spellbook you're never going to let go of!)
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Old 11th October 2006, 06:56 PM   #13 (permalink)
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We could flog the lot at the moment and come up with about enough money to let you scribe 3 spell levels into your book, I reckon.

That might not, therefore, be all that popular with some in the party!

(The most valuable item we have in the bag is... well, it's that spellbook you're never going to let go of!)
Ok nps, with my share of the above I might just be nearing to scribe 1 spell which is a start at least.

With regards to the book....well it's kinda like asking the fighter to sell his armour! And it NEVER, I repeat, NEVER was put into anything other than my robes

Btw how do Bard spells work. I never really considered the book of any use to anyone other than me?
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Don't think necromancy is much of a bard forte generally

They cast like sorcerors...

It might be of limited use to me, could study what's available and pray to my god for similar miracles. Although frankly a lot of the stuff I've seen so far looked too 'icky' for me.
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No. The book's all yours, mate. None of the rest of us are going to touch it...

But make a play for more money for scribing things in a bit when we've actually got more than 2 copper pieces to rub together...

And I appreciate you taking Craft Wondrous item, but are you going to be able to make anything... non freaky?
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Old 12th October 2006, 12:12 PM   #16 (permalink)
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No. The book's all yours, mate. None of the rest of us are going to touch it...
Fine by me

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But make a play for more money for scribing things in a bit when we've actually got more than 2 copper pieces to rub together...
Also fine, was just thinking it would be good to have more options asap however world domination can wait a bit longer

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And I appreciate you taking Craft Wondrous item, but are you going to be able to make anything... non freaky?
That's not a problem..........and.........don't be silly, non-freaky just isn't me
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