Anyone done or doing the dragonets of Dragon #272 (crow's nest, geyser, mole, amd pavilion)? There's a conversion thread for true dragons, but what about lesser dragons? I heard the spiretop dragon of Eberron (Sharn, City of Towers) is nicknamed the crow's nest dragon but it might not be the same dragon. If there's none yet, I'd like to start with the pavilion dragon. It's gem-like, it's psionic (two thumbs up for me), and it's too cute to ignore.
Anyone done or doing the dragonets of Dragon #272 (crow's nest, geyser, mole, amd pavilion)? There's a conversion thread for true dragons, but what about lesser dragons? I heard the spiretop dragon of Eberron (Sharn, City of Towers) is nicknamed the crow's nest dragon but it might not be the same dragon. If there's none yet, I'd like to start with the pavilion dragon. It's gem-like, it's psionic (two thumbs up for me), and it's too cute to ignore.
I'll add 'em to the requests. If they've got age categories, we can handle them in the true dragons thread. Otherwise, we can whip up a special conversion thread.
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Inside my hands these petals browned;
dried up falling to the ground,
but it was already too late now.
I pushed my fingers through the earth,
returned this flower to the dirt;
so it could live, I walked away now."
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"I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." - Batman, Batman Begins "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight "Yeah, I can fly." - Tony Stark, Iron Man
Inside my hands these petals browned;
dried up falling to the ground,
but it was already too late now.
I pushed my fingers through the earth,
returned this flower to the dirt;
so it could live, I walked away now."
Rise Against - "The Good Left Undone"
"I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." - Batman, Batman Begins "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight "Yeah, I can fly." - Tony Stark, Iron Man
Inside my hands these petals browned;
dried up falling to the ground,
but it was already too late now.
I pushed my fingers through the earth,
returned this flower to the dirt;
so it could live, I walked away now."
Rise Against - "The Good Left Undone"
Any chance of getting a Converting Spelljammer monsters thread, next time one of the other Converting...monsters threads gets finished and a slot is available?
I don't especially care if the thread is slower that other conversion threads, but I'd like to see at least 10 of these guys get converted to 3rd edition before the end of the year.
We held off on creating threads for Spelljammer, Birthright, and Ravenloft due to those settings having active official fansites. Beyond the Moons seemed especially on par to finish up all the unconverted Spelljammer critters.
I believe we ended up with Mystara and Planescape threads due to the lack of serious monster conversion sections at the time of their creations. Since then, both official sites have ramped up production, though.
Regardless, we can pretty much convert anything we want.
"I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." - Batman, Batman Begins "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight "Yeah, I can fly." - Tony Stark, Iron Man
Inside my hands these petals browned;
dried up falling to the ground,
but it was already too late now.
I pushed my fingers through the earth,
returned this flower to the dirt;
so it could live, I walked away now."
Rise Against - "The Good Left Undone"
Yay! It might still be worth getting a couple of things (like that last Horde monster and the remaining oozes) out of the way to keep the first page of Monster Talk uncluttered.
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We held off on creating threads for Spelljammer, Birthright, and Ravenloft due to those settings having active official fansites. Beyond the Moons seemed especially on par to finish up all the unconverted Spelljammer critters.
I've not really followed the Birthright and Ravenloft communities, but they did seem to be pretty cool, when I surfed by collecting URLs.
Birthright has their own forums, and I think that helps make the conversion process a lot easier. (It seems to work well here.) WotC have recently merged all of their out of print setting forums into one uberforum. I'm not sure if this will hurt Birthright.net (by lowering its profile) or help it (by driving WotC forum members over to Birthright.net). It might be worth keeping an eye on them to see what their activity does.
Ravenloft fans must have had a ego boost (and maybe - for some - a bit of disapointment) when the setting was licenced out by WotC. However, I think that the original official Ravenloft site has closed down and become an archive of what it used to be. However, there are a few other good unofficial Ravenloft fan websites. Ravenloft might need a bit of help if those other websites are not able to pull the conversion community into one place.
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I believe we ended up with Mystara and Planescape threads due to the lack of serious monster conversion sections at the time of their creations. Since then, both official sites have ramped up production, though.
Ignoring things like popularity of individual settings, I think that both those settings are excellent choices.
Mystara is so old school, that it really has a link to the roots of D&D. So converting missing Mystara monsters is like restoring the Globe Theatre. Even if people prefer later campaign settings, they are liking things built on top of Mystara. So many of these monsters should fit in well with later campaign settings.
Planescape is tied in with the planes. So you get a collection of creatures with the Elemental and Outsider subtype. Planescape is a "transitive" campaign setting that can link to any other campaign setting(s), so despite the fact it came pretty late in 2nd edition, its monsters should transplant well to most other campaign settings.
So despite the fact I'm a big SJ fan, I do think your two choices gave better "value for money" on a monster by monster basis.
Spelljammer is also a "transitive" campaign setting, so many of its monsters should work anywhere. However, some of them are designed more for space than the atmosphere of planets. Some of them might work ok as airborn creatures, but a few of them are likely to be much less useful on the ground.
If you do start this thread, it might be better for us to tackle the "groundling" monsters before the "wildspace" monsters. And any "phlogiston" monsters should wait until last.
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Regardless, we can pretty much convert anything we want.
At the moment you can. But eventually you will convert all the cool monsters and there won't be so much choice of what to do.
But it would be very satifying to see this get done before 5th edition comes onto the shelves.
"I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." - Batman, Batman Begins "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight "Yeah, I can fly." - Tony Stark, Iron Man
Inside my hands these petals browned;
dried up falling to the ground,
but it was already too late now.
I pushed my fingers through the earth,
returned this flower to the dirt;
so it could live, I walked away now."
Rise Against - "The Good Left Undone"
Any chance of getting some more Pocket Reference... threads going? I realise they take a lot of work to set up, but I think they are a good resource to point external conversion fans at.
The two I would like to see most are:
Pocket Reference: Creatures from the Greyhawk Setting
and
Pocket Reference: Creatures from the Dragonlance Setting
Canonfire doesn't seem to have its conversion project very well organised at the moment, but there is supposed to be a ton of conversion material scattered around the Internet. I'm hoping that if a GH Pocket Reference is available, I can post a link to it on the Greyhawk D&D 3.0e/3.5e/d20/Pathfinder forum and get other people to help me find any conversions that Echohawk doesn't know about.
Dragonlance Nexus pretty much has things easy, as MWP did most of the important stuff, but if a DL Pocket Reference is available, I will put a link to it in my Dragonlance Forums signature and see if I can directly solicit the conversions that haven't been done.
If you get extra time and can post a Pocket Reference: Creatures from the Mystara Setting, I will promote it over at the Mystara section of The Piazza.
Anyhoo, I know this is hard work, so this isn't urgent. But if it could go at the back of the to-do list that would be great.
Thanks for the encouragement. I'm busy with the Planescape Pocket Reference at the moment, but they are rather time-consuming, so don't hold your breath .
Dragonlance and Greyhawk are likely candidates after that, but I just might tackle the giants or dragons creature types first.
Mystara is a very low priority, since Mortis has already done such a good job with the CCCI. I'm not sure a Pocket Reference would add much to that.
"I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." - Batman, Batman Begins "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight "Yeah, I can fly." - Tony Stark, Iron Man
Inside my hands these petals browned;
dried up falling to the ground,
but it was already too late now.
I pushed my fingers through the earth,
returned this flower to the dirt;
so it could live, I walked away now."
Rise Against - "The Good Left Undone"
Not to long ago BigMac, if my memory is correct, found 4 AD&D modules that went for $1,500 on ebay. If they were the Competition modules I have PRF (adobe) copies of C1 thru C6.
There was also a non Competition/Collectable module, if you let know what is I will check my downloads to see if I have it.
"I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." - Batman, Batman Begins "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight "Yeah, I can fly." - Tony Stark, Iron Man
Inside my hands these petals browned;
dried up falling to the ground,
but it was already too late now.
I pushed my fingers through the earth,
returned this flower to the dirt;
so it could live, I walked away now."
Rise Against - "The Good Left Undone"
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