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Old 28th April 2008, 10:36 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Well, a quick count indicates 404 playable D&D humanoid races in my index. That is actually even more than the number statted up as creatures, thanks to the seemingly endless number of dwarven, elven, gnomish, etc. subraces that have appeared throughout D&D history.

And then there are a whole bunch more non-Humanoid creatures playable as characters (17 Aberrations, 4 Constructs, 16 Dragons, 6 Elementals, 21 Fey, 27 Giants, 8 Magical Beasts, 118 Monstrous Humanoids, 64 Outsiders, 5 Plants and 3 Undead).

So I estimate that there are just short of 700 creatures that are (theoretically at least) playable as characters.
Thanks for the info.

I'm sure that some of them have an Level Adjustment that pushes their ECL too high. I'm sure that some of them have too many HD to make it easy to play them. But the thought of being able to look through 700 critters to find playable races is very appealing.

I made something on Google Docs called Monsters As Characers. It is a cross-referenced list of all the playable monsters in the SRD with ECLs (and LAs and HD). It isn't complete yet. I've got some more monsters to add to the table. At some point I'd actually love to expand it and fill in the missing ".... As Characters" sections for all the monsters in the SRD that don't have them.

I hesitate to take on 700 critters, but when you have finished converting everything to 3e, I'd love to have a punt at some of them.

Eventually I'd love to see a collection PDFs of converted monsters (by campaign setting). Something like "Monsters of Maztica" would really help a Forgotten Realms DM to add the Maztica continent to their FR game. And if the playable monsters could be given those "... As Characters" sections it would really help people play monster NPCs.

Beyond the Moons is already onbaord with this concept, although they are still in the very very early stages of developing their Monsters of Wildspace PDF. I'll probably start off with a "Spelljammer Monsters As Characters" list and see how I go from there.
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Old 2nd May 2008, 11:14 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Seeing how we use this thread constantly, I gave it a much-deserved sticky.
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Updated to take the last few conversions into account. Also: Yay! Thanks for the sticky!
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I'm confused by your current Greyhawk totals

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By setting/source
Greyhawk: 24

Unique creatures not counted above
Greyhawk: 2
I count 27 creatures in the Unconverted Greyhawk Creatures thread (not 26).

Have you found another missing monster and added it to the Unconverted Greyhawk Creatures thread but forgotten to add it here? Or have you converted a Greyhawk monster and forgotten to subtract it from that thread?
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Both threads were slightly out of date, but the Unconverted Greyhawk Creature one more so

I make the number of unconverted Greyhawk creatures 25 (24 + 1 unique), and I've update both threads accordingly.

Thanks for spotting that!
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The Imagine creatures are down from 5 to 4.

I'm looking forward to seeing it join Maztica at the top of the page.

I realise that you still have a lot of work to do, but, as someone who loved 2nd edition's mass of campaign settings, it is great to see Creature Catalog slowly finishing off the monsters that 3rd edition forgot.

Have you got any plans to collect these monsters into matched sets? For example, now Maztica is done, I would love to see a Monsters of Maztica PDF that took your conversions and presented them in a style that had elements of Monsters of Faerun and the original Maztica house style.
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By type

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Elementals: 28

...

Outsiders: 99
Have you got a breakdown of the number of creatures per elemental plane? (Or in third edition terms elemental subtype.)

Ditto to the outsiders. Are they associated with specific trasitive or outer planes?

I'm sure the Planescape fans would love to see these 127 monsters get finished (along with the Planescape monsters, of course).
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No, unfortunately I don't have those details for the unconverted critters. The type of each unconverted creature is largely a guess, and those entries don't have subtypes or climate/terrain/planes associated with them at the moment in my index.
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Updated, and the total drops to below 1200 for the first time
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No, unfortunately I don't have those details for the unconverted critters. The type of each unconverted creature is largely a guess, and those entries don't have subtypes or climate/terrain/planes associated with them at the moment in my index.
Thanks for letting me know. I suppose we will have to work that sort of thing out as we go along (assuming it is possible). I know the Planescape fans would love to know as they could then create an index of elementals and outsiders for each plane and turn it into an encounter table.
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Updated, and the total drops to below 1200 for the first time
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By type
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Dragons: 25
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Should the word Dragons in the first post link to the Converting True Dragons thread? That is about True Dragons and the dragon subtype would contain creatures that are not true dragons.

Mind you the first post of the Converting True Dragons actually has more than 25 creatures in it. So if this thread is correct, some of them must be done. Maybe (in this thread) you could list the number of true dragons in brackets after the number of dragons. Then you could have an excuse for a link.
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By my count there are now 19 unconverted true dragons, and 7 things which are probably dragons, but don't have age categories. (The total on the front page was out by one, but has been fixed).

Unconverted dragons

True dragons
  • Air Dragon [Realmspace (SJR2)]
  • Aquatic Dragon [Dragon #134]
  • Arack [Dragon #74]
  • Beljuril Dragon [Dragon #265]
  • Bestiary [Dragon #199]
  • Brine Dragon [Monstrous Compendium Annual Volume Two]
  • Brown Dragon [Dragon #38]
  • Crystal Drake [Dragon #146]
  • Demon Drake [Dragon #146]
  • Faerie Drake [Dragon #146]
  • Hawkdragon [Dragon #101]
  • Minidragon [Dragon #146]
  • Mithril Dragon [Practical Planetology (SJR4)]
  • Orange Dragon [Dragon #38]
  • Pearl Dragon [Monstrous Compendium Annual Volume One]
  • Prismatic Dragon [Monstrous Compendium Annual Volume Four]
  • Shadow Drake [Dragon #146]
  • Spider Dragon [Wild Elves (DLS4)]
  • Yellow Dragon [Dragon #38]
Other dragons
  • Bloodstinger [Dragon #251]
  • Lindworm [Dragon #182]
  • Murdakus [Dragon #270]
  • Phase Dragon [Dragon #94]
  • Sea Wyrm [Monstrous Compendium Annual Volume Two]
  • Space Drake [Skull & Crossbow (SJA2)]
  • Swamp Wyrm [Dragon #182]
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Updated, and the total drops to below 1200 for the first time
After discovering that the unconverted dragon count was out by one yesterday, I did a completed recheck of all of the totals against the unconverted lists, and alas, the grand total is actually currently still 1200 .

But at least I'm pretty sure my maths is now correct again.
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We should get back below 1200 today.
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Thanks for the updates

I just want to say that I really appreciate the updates to the first post in this thread (and the other threads). Looking at this stuff is like watching a D&D creature news feed showing the monsters rolling off of the production line.
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I have a recollection that the Brown, Orange and Yellow Dragons were converted to 3.5 in the Dragon Compendium Vol 1.
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The yellow, purple and orange dragons from Dragon #65 and #248 were updated in the Dragon Compendium, Volume 1, but those are (somewhat annoyingly) different creatures from the brown, orange and yellow dragons from Dragon #38 .
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Here is the breakdown of creatures from D&D history that have not yet appeared in 3.X form somewhere in print or on the web, and links to all the threads listing unconverted critters:

Completed
Horde
Maztica

By setting/source
Imagine magazine: 4
Dark Sun: 8
Dragonlance: 12
Al-Qadim: 17
Mystara: 21
Birthright: 24
Greyhawk: 24
Original D&D: 28
Ravenloft: 29
Generic 1st edition: 30
Oriental Adventures: 32
Planescape: 32
Dungeon magazine: 56
Forgotten Realms: 58
Spelljammer: 59
Polyhedron magazine: 63
Generic 2nd edition: 232
Dragon magazine: 468
Is there any chance we can get a breakdown on the number of Jakandor creatures at some point soon? Now there is a Converting Creatures from Other Campaign Settings that is converting them, I'd love to see how things are progressing. (Are they currently folded into "Generic 2nd edition"?)
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