Converting Epic Level Creatures

[Shade]

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Kazgaroth can cast a permanent charm on one victim within 10’ of itself. A side effect of this charm is that once per week, the charmed being must successfully save vs. spell or permanently lose a point of Charisma (to a minimum score of 3), due to the effects of the Beast’s vile magic on the being.

[demiurge1138]

10 feet seems really short range, especially for something so huge.

Should we make this a Su or Sp ability?

[freyar]

Let's say 30 ft or maybe 60 ft. Probably Sp, as charm monster affected by permanency (though that's not normally allowed).

[Shade]

Let's go Su to make the save DC respectable. Something like this?

Permanent Charm (Su): At will (?), Kazgaroth may attempt to place a powerful charm upon a creature. This functions as charm monster (CL xth, Will DC x), except the range is 60 feet and the effect is permanent. Additionally, once per week a victim must succeed on a DC X Fortitude save or suffer 1 point of Charisma drain. The save DC is Charisma-based.

[demiurge1138]

It says "on one victim", so I think that, if we give it to him at will, the effect is broken whenever he charms someone else. Sort of like how the warlock's charm effect works.

[freyar]

I think I'd go with 3/day, but At Will works, too.

Is the corrupting charm next?

[freyar]

Originally Posted by demiurge1138

It says "on one victim", so I think that, if we give it to him at will, the effect is broken whenever he charms someone else. Sort of like how the warlock's charm effect works.

I like that interpretation. Let's make it explicit.

[Shade]

Like so?

Permanent Charm (Su): At will (?), Kazgaroth may attempt to place a powerful charm upon a single creature. This functions as charm monster (CL xth, Will DC x), except the range is 60 feet and the effect is permanent. Additionally, once per week the victim must succeed on a DC X Fortitude save or suffer 1 point of Charisma drain. The save DC is Charisma-based.

Kazgaroth may only permanently charm one creature at a time. Should he target another creature, the first victim is immediately freed from the charm, regardless of success or failure of the new target's saving throw.

[demiurge1138]

That looks good to me. Caster level 20th?

[freyar]

I also like it, and CL 20 works for me.

[Shade]

Updated.

Ready for this one?

Kazgaroth’s final offensive power is perhaps its most insidious. A corrupted form of the mass charm spell, this ability transforms a troop (up to 500 persons) of living beings into the undead minions of Bhaal known as the Blood Warriors. See their entry in this section for more details on their most recent incarnation, the Blood Riders.

[freyar]

Sp or Su? Should the victims need to be willing?

[Shade]

Originally Posted by freyar

Should the victims need to be willing?

I'm not sure. Read this and tell me what you think.

Next, the Beast viciously killed and began impersonating Thelgaar Ironhand, the mightiest king of the Northmen that lived on the Isles. Now in the role of this leader, Kazgaroth revoked Ironhand’s previous peace-loving policies and built the assembled Northmen into a conquering army bent on ravaging the island of Gywnneth, home of the Kendrick line of kings. Kazgaroth also used its corrupting mass charm ability to transform the Northmen’s only cavalry unit, the Blood Riders, into his pawns.

[demiurge1138]

It sounds to me like it transforms unwilling targets into blood riders. It shouldn't be able to do it very often. Once per year, perhaps?

[Shade]

How about this?

Troop Transformation (Su): Once per year, Kazgaroth may transform up to 500 humanoids into blood warriors. Each creature must succeed on a DC X Will save or immediately become a typical blood warrior (regardless of its original size or type). Blood warriors are fanatically loyal to Kazgaroth, and may only be restored to their original form by a wish or miracle spell. The save DC is Charisma-based.

[demiurge1138]

That sounds good. We should specify what sort of effect it is (I'm guessing polymorph and death), in case the PCs get caught up in the transformation or something like that.

[freyar]

I like all that. Polymorph and death effect sounds about right to me, too.

[Shade]

Updated.

Shall we move on to feats and skills?

Skills: 10 at 29 ranks
Feats: Multiattack, 8 more (2 can be epic)

[demiurge1138]

Feats: Power Attack, Imp. Bull's Rush, Awesome Blow, Improved Initiative, Weapon Focus (claw), Improved Critical (claw)

Epic Feats: Dire Charge, Epic Toughness

[freyar]

Feats look good.

For skills, how about Bluff, Concentration, Diplomacy, Disguise, Intimidate, Knowledge (religion), Listen, Search, Sense Motive, Spot? I could see swapping out Search for something like Jump or Swim if you want.