Converting Epic Level Creatures

[Shade]

That sounds mostly good. Let's go with at least the baseline Large damage for his attacks:
1d6 (claw), 1d8 (bite), 1d8 (tail).

We could bump the claws to 1d8 as well.

Thoughts?

[freyar]

Not a big deal, but I'd like to bump the claws due to the fact that they were the most damaging attacks originally. But I don't want to burn a feat on Imp. Nat. Attack just to do it, unless we want to replace Imp. Init.

[Shade]

2d6 is fine. I just spot-checked some of the other high-end demons of his size, and they have varying damages.

AC 23 is going to be too low. Looking at other high-end demons, it should probably be in the 30-35 range.

[freyar]

Well, we can set the natural armor fairly high, since he's got "leathery" flesh. Demonic leather is bound to be pretty tough. Maybe +13-15? Deflection equal to Cha bonus nets us another +5 if we go that route. What do you think?

[demiurge1138]

Hey there, Shade! I've decided it's been too long since I've done much monster-craft, so I'm easing my way back in.

I say don't give him a deflection bonus to AC. Maybe a profane bonus. Maybe. But if we want to make him feel a little more "epic" (poor guy, right on the threshold), we could give him something like:

Profane Fury (Su): Once per day, Siragle may draw upon his connection with the Steeping Isle to shroud himself in abyssal energy as a swift action. When in a profane fury, Siragle gains the effect of an unholy aura spell (Fortitude DC 24 negates the Strength damage) and damage reduction 5/epic for 8 rounds. When his profane fury expires, Siragle is fatigued for the rest of the encounter. The save DC is Charisma based.

Emphasizes his melee, gives him some (more) well-needed defenses, and ties him closer to his Abyssal layer.

What do you think, sirs?

Demiurge out.

[freyar]

I like that. Maybe a small profane bonus to AC (rather than deflection), depending on what Shade thinks about his baase AC. CL 20th on the unholy aura?

[demiurge1138]

Originally Posted by freyar

I like that. Maybe a small profane bonus to AC (rather than deflection), depending on what Shade thinks about his baase AC. CL 20th on the unholy aura?

Indeed.

Demiurge out.

[Shade]

Originally Posted by demiurge1138

Hey there, Shade! I've decided it's been too long since I've done much monster-craft, so I'm easing my way back in.

We're glad to have you back!

As for the other stuff, sounds good. Since we already gave him unholy aura as a SLA, how about...

Profane Fury (Su): Once per day, Siragle may draw upon his connection with the Steeping Isle to shroud himself in abyssal energy as a swift action. When in a profane fury, Siragle gains a +5 profane bonus to AC, a +2 bonus to his spell resistance, and damage reduction 5/epic for 8 rounds. When his profane fury expires, Siragle is fatigued for the rest of the encounter. The save DC is Charisma based.

[demiurge1138]

Originally Posted by Shade

Since we already gave him unholy aura as a SLA, how about...

Profane Fury (Su): Once per day, Siragle may draw upon his connection with the Steeping Isle to shroud himself in abyssal energy as a swift action. When in a profane fury, Siragle gains a +5 profane bonus to AC, a +2 bonus to his spell resistance, and damage reduction 5/epic for 8 rounds. When his profane fury expires, Siragle is fatigued for the rest of the encounter. The save DC is Charisma based.

D'oh! How did I miss the unholy aura? That version of profane fury works nicely, I think.

Demiurge out.

[Shade]

Treasure Type: S, U, Y

He is also able to utilize wizard scrolls and frequently has some in his possession, but not at this time.

S:
Maps or Magic Items: 2-8 potions: 40%

U:
10-80 gems: 90%
5-30 jewelry: 80%
Maps or Magic Items: 1 of each magic excluding potions & scrolls: 70%

Y:
2-12 1,000s of gold pieces: 70%

Standard coins, double goods (gems and jewelery), double items?

He is capable of wielding a weapon rather than using his claw attacks, but has not brought a weapon with him.

Shall we give him a special weapon?

[demiurge1138]

Originally Posted by Shade

Standard coins, double goods (gems and jewelery), double items?

Sounds good to me.

Shall we give him a special weapon?

Sure! +3, unholy? A two-handed weapon makes sense, to keep with the bruiser theme, but I think we should go with something a little cooler than just a greatsword. Halberd? Falchion?

Demiurge out.

[Shade]

Falchions are woefully underused, so that gets my vote.

I'll look over the module again and make sure nothing within indicates any othe details.

[freyar]

This all looks good. I had noticed the double unholy aura, but the effects were so nice.... But I like this profane fury, too.

[Shade]

Not much else in the module pertaining to Siragle, other than the following:

"Perhaps in battle, Siragle attempts to grab a PC and plane shift home, forcing the other adventurers to undertake a rescue mission to the fiend's gruesome Abyssal realm."

"This dangerous Abyssal denizen has been growing in power and influence over the past few centuries. He now holds sway over the 493rd layer of the Abyss, a small, loathsome place with few inhabitants or resources. Thus, the contract he drew up with Draskilion is of considerable importance to him, and he has decided to deal with the matter personally."

"Siragle's agreement is for Draskilion's soul and services. When he discovers that other beings have also been promised the wizard's soul, he will not be pleased. However, as he has learned to be flexible, Siragle will be happy to claim the souls of two or three less-willing persons, "who should have kept their noses out of this business anyway."

[freyar]

Not a whole lot mechanical there. Unless you think the bit about plane shift warrants an abduct ability, like a bar-lgura. (It's not necessary, though, since the demon's plane shift isn't normally limited to personal range.)

[demiurge1138]

Wait, does Siragle have improved grab as we've got him so far? If not, I think he should get it. Having an abduction-type ability isn't necessary, as plane shift doesn't have the "self plus 50 pounds" limitation, and the spell allows for unwilling targets anyway.

Demiurge out.

[Shade]

Yep, he's got it.

Here's the latest update.

CR 18?

Weight?

[freyar]

Hard for me to guess a CR, but 18 is probably reasonable. Maybe a bump if he has a lot of scrolls with him. Also, we should add "with no chance of failure" to the scroll mastery bit. I guess that sets the natural armor, as well?

Maybe 1000 lb? That's on the heavy end (compared to say an ogre, greater barghest, etc), but strangely low compared to a balor. Why are balors so heavy, just 'cause they're so much stronger?

[Shade]

Dunno. It must be supernatural.

How about +17 natural armor, yielding a total AC of 30, or 35 with profane fury?

I added the "no chance of failure" bit.

[freyar]

Guess so!

Looks pretty good to me...