Good suggestion for Survival...but let's not drop Hide, since that was part of their tactics (and it does become useful when their racial bonus in certain terrain kicks in).
How about borrowing 1 rank from each of the other skills (except Craft), which would give us...
"I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." - Batman, Batman Begins "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight "Yeah, I can fly." - Tony Stark, Iron Man
Inside my hands these petals browned;
dried up falling to the ground,
but it was already too late now.
I pushed my fingers through the earth,
returned this flower to the dirt;
so it could live, I walked away now."
Rise Against - "The Good Left Undone"
Using elite array: Str 14, Dex 13, Con 8, Int 12, Wis 15, Cha 10
Plus 1 ability increase at 4th-level (put into Wis)
Plus racial modifiers: Str +18, Con +14, Int -2, Wis +4, Cha +4
Gives us: Str 32, Dex 13, Con 22, Int 10, Wis 20, Cha 14
"I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." - Batman, Batman Begins "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight "Yeah, I can fly." - Tony Stark, Iron Man
Inside my hands these petals browned;
dried up falling to the ground,
but it was already too late now.
I pushed my fingers through the earth,
returned this flower to the dirt;
so it could live, I walked away now."
Rise Against - "The Good Left Undone"
Looks good. The shaman gets 2 more feats and I think 30 more skill ranks. 5 more ranks in each skill listed? Natural Spell and maybe Animal Affinity for the feats?
"I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." - Batman, Batman Begins "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight "Yeah, I can fly." - Tony Stark, Iron Man
Inside my hands these petals browned;
dried up falling to the ground,
but it was already too late now.
I pushed my fingers through the earth,
returned this flower to the dirt;
so it could live, I walked away now."
Rise Against - "The Good Left Undone"
"I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." - Batman, Batman Begins "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight "Yeah, I can fly." - Tony Stark, Iron Man
Inside my hands these petals browned;
dried up falling to the ground,
but it was already too late now.
I pushed my fingers through the earth,
returned this flower to the dirt;
so it could live, I walked away now."
Rise Against - "The Good Left Undone"
"I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." - Batman, Batman Begins "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight "Yeah, I can fly." - Tony Stark, Iron Man
Inside my hands these petals browned;
dried up falling to the ground,
but it was already too late now.
I pushed my fingers through the earth,
returned this flower to the dirt;
so it could live, I walked away now."
Rise Against - "The Good Left Undone"
"I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." - Batman, Batman Begins "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight "Yeah, I can fly." - Tony Stark, Iron Man
Inside my hands these petals browned;
dried up falling to the ground,
but it was already too late now.
I pushed my fingers through the earth,
returned this flower to the dirt;
so it could live, I walked away now."
Rise Against - "The Good Left Undone"
That would work, though the bit about Shou Lung makes me think about making him a monk. (This might require some comments in the main swamp giant flavor section.)
"I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." - Batman, Batman Begins "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight "Yeah, I can fly." - Tony Stark, Iron Man
Inside my hands these petals browned;
dried up falling to the ground,
but it was already too late now.
I pushed my fingers through the earth,
returned this flower to the dirt;
so it could live, I walked away now."
Rise Against - "The Good Left Undone"
Last edited by Shade; 4th September 2008 at 05:24 PM..
The Shou Disciple prestige class from Unapproachable East would be perfect.
Too bad it's not core.
What did you think about monk? It would be unusual for a swamp giant, but otherwise I think it fits. We could just put a flavor blurb that there are some lowish-level monks in his immediate clan. The other thing is that monk goes well with killing a dragon with his bare hands.
Using elite array: Str 14, Dex 13, Con 10, Int 12, Wis 8, Cha 15
Plus 1 ability increase at 4th-level (put into Wis) and 8th-level (put into Wis)
Plus racial modifiers: Str +18, Con +14, Int -2, Wis +4, Cha +4
Gives us: Str 32, Dex 13, Con 24, Int 10, Wis 14, Cha 19
Look OK?
Edit: Added King Sully assuming the ability scores above.
"I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." - Batman, Batman Begins "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight "Yeah, I can fly." - Tony Stark, Iron Man
Inside my hands these petals browned;
dried up falling to the ground,
but it was already too late now.
I pushed my fingers through the earth,
returned this flower to the dirt;
so it could live, I walked away now."
Rise Against - "The Good Left Undone"
Last edited by Shade; 8th September 2008 at 10:59 PM..
Suggested monk ranged weapon (choose from light crossbow, heavy crossbow, dagger, handaxe, javelin, shuriken, sling)?
We need 9 more feats (2 can be epic). Some suggestions: Awesome Blow, Deflect Arrows, Improved Bull Rush, Improved Critical (unarmed strike), Iron Will, Negotiator, Power Attack, Stunning Fist, Weapon Focus (unarmed strike)
We have 40 monk skill ranks to spend. Maybe 16 ranks each in Diplomacy and Sense Motive, and 8 ranks each in Balance, Listen, Spot, Tumble?
"I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." - Batman, Batman Begins "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight "Yeah, I can fly." - Tony Stark, Iron Man
Inside my hands these petals browned;
dried up falling to the ground,
but it was already too late now.
I pushed my fingers through the earth,
returned this flower to the dirt;
so it could live, I walked away now."
Rise Against - "The Good Left Undone"
I like the javelin for the ranged weapon. It's close to the spear but a little more refined.
The skills also look good.
I like your suggested feats, but I'm trying to find something epic to squeeze in there. Is epic weapon focus worth it (maybe instead of IBR)? Or we could go the route of overwhelming crit, but that takes up most of the feats to get the prereqs.
Epic Weapon Focus adds +2, but the revised version requires Greater WF, for which he cannot qualify. He could take Epic Prowess and gain a +1 on all attacks. I should have suggested Epic Will rather than Iron Will, as IW isn't a prereq for EW.
It's too bad his Dex isn't higher, or he could take Legendary Wrestler.
"I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." - Batman, Batman Begins "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight "Yeah, I can fly." - Tony Stark, Iron Man
Inside my hands these petals browned;
dried up falling to the ground,
but it was already too late now.
I pushed my fingers through the earth,
returned this flower to the dirt;
so it could live, I walked away now."
Rise Against - "The Good Left Undone"
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