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Old 20th October 2008, 09:20 PM   #81 (permalink)
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I prefer standard treasure and the longsword as well. However, I just realized that our cleric isn't proficient with longswords. We could blow a feat on martial weapon prof, though.

Regarding Weapon Focus, if we keep that, I'd rather not use searing touch, since it seems likely the cleric would have taken the feat before getting the template (though I guess we could say the template applied at 11th level). What do you think?
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Old 20th October 2008, 09:43 PM   #82 (permalink)
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I prefer standard treasure and the longsword as well. However, I just realized that our cleric isn't proficient with longswords. We could blow a feat on martial weapon prof, though.

Regarding Weapon Focus, if we keep that, I'd rather not use searing touch, since it seems likely the cleric would have taken the feat before getting the template (though I guess we could say the template applied at 11th level). What do you think?
Good points. Let's drop Widen Spell to make room for Martial Weapon Proficiency (longsword), and go with Weapon Focus (longsword). Sound good?

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Sure.

0 - Cure Minor Wounds, Inflict Minor Wounds, Detect Magic, Read Magic, Resistance, Guidance?
1 - Bane, Entropic Shield, Cause Fear, Doom, Inflict Light Wounds, Command + Inflict Light Wounds?
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Old 21st October 2008, 01:39 AM   #84 (permalink)
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2nd - bull's strength, death knell, desecrate, hold person, invisibility (D), spiritual weapon

3rd - animate dead, bestow curse, blindness/deafness, contagion (D), magic vestment, speak with dead.

4th - confusion (D), dimensional anchor, freedom of movement, spell immunity

5th - false vision (D), flame strike, righteous might

6th - blade barrier, harm (D), planar ally

...these guys can still convert to inflict spells, because they're clerics, right?
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Old 21st October 2008, 05:21 AM   #85 (permalink)
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Yeah, they should be able to do inflicts spontaneously. Not sure what I was thinking in 0th and 1st. Want to go with an extra resistance at 0 and shield of faith at 1? Could also go to disguise self for the 1st domain spell instead.
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Old 21st October 2008, 06:41 AM   #86 (permalink)
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That sounds good.
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Old 21st October 2008, 03:22 PM   #87 (permalink)
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Updated.

Magic longsword?

And we need to do something about that Armor Class. For starters, should we give the template a natural armor bonus equivalent to a skeleton?
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Old 21st October 2008, 05:12 PM   #88 (permalink)
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I'd say some natural armor like skeletons, but I don't see any reason they couldn't wear some metal armor, since they're clerics after all.

Also, did we decide that they had enough spell-casting bennies and to ignore the following (or do swift, silent, still spells automatically grant this anyway)?
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We decided instead upon...

Fiery Resolve (Ex): A burnbones is always considered to be casting defensively when using any of its spells.
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I agree to natural armor, but equipment and spells would be a good way to bring up its AC. Perhaps it's already cast magic vestment today, for example.
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Old 21st October 2008, 05:34 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Skeletons get natural armor as follows...

Tiny or smaller +0
Small +1
Medium or Large +2
Huge +3
Gargantuan +6
Colossal +10

I'd rather go the non-variable route, though, and borrow something akin to a lich...

Armor Class: A lich has a +5 natural armor bonus or the base creature’s natural armor bonus, whichever is better.

Good call on magic vestment. What kind of metal armor appeals most?
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How about +2 natural and chain mail with magic vestment? Sufficient?
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Old 21st October 2008, 09:18 PM   #93 (permalink)
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Updated.

Magic longsword?
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+1 unholy?
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Sure.

Updated. All done?
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Looks pretty good, but maybe we should use the extend spell feat here, too. Could extend a mage armor or spell immunity, for example.
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Old 23rd October 2008, 04:42 PM   #97 (permalink)
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Looks pretty good, but maybe we should use the extend spell feat here, too. Could extend a mage armor or spell immunity, for example.
Do you mean magic vestment, rather than mage armor (it's a cleric)? That would make it last 24 hours, which would be perfect.

Shield of faith would be another good one to extend.
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Agreed to extended magic vestment, shield of faith.
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Agreed to extended magic vestment, shield of faith.
Drop dimensional anchor and shield of faith to make room for them?

Suggested replacements at 1st and 3rd levels?
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Old 23rd October 2008, 08:54 PM   #100 (permalink)
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Yeah, I think was getting confused with the web-spectre.

How about an extra doom at 1st and either an extra bestow curse or invisibility purge at 3rd?
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