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Old 18th June 2008, 01:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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We have posted the 4e D&D GSL here and it is now live.
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Old 18th June 2008, 01:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 18th June 2008, 01:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 18th June 2008, 01:56 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Can't wait till Necromancer Games and some of my other favs get squared away and start releasing some 4E stuff!

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Damnit. There's little else for us to complain about waiting on.
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Damnit. There's little else for us to complain about waiting on.
Except, of course, pretty much every feature of DDI except the mags.
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Old 18th June 2008, 02:01 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Aww, the license prevents websites that just have all the rules. No 4e d20srd.org, though I suppose we already knew that wasn't going to be available.
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Interesting. It is exactly as limited as the previous licenses as far as I understand the legalese. No interactive products, no character creation tools, only written stuff.

And the clause about web pages is very irritating. It seems that most content and citations here on ENWorld is "your use of any Wizards of the Coast intellectual property is considered unauthorized and not under license". :/

And you can't change or modify references listed in the SRD. So it is really, really restrictive.
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I like the new Portable Hole, although I think there should be an Epic-sized Bag of Holding as well. If you can't carry siege-weaponry in your pocket, you shouldn't be calling yourself a Demigod.
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Yeah, my understanding of legal-speak is very, very limited. Can anyone post what this allows to be published in normal talk? Please?

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No beholders, apparently.

And no making derivative games. So Mongoose couldn't, for instance, make a new edition of Conan that uses the 4e style of powers and class progression. But I think they could make up their own game that hews pretty close. I mean, if you're not trying to make your book compatible with WotC's D&D products, you don't need to use this license, and you could probably be legally justified to adopt a lot of their ideas, while still using the old OGL.
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Old 18th June 2008, 02:12 AM   #12 (permalink)
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What's with all the @ signs in SRD.pdf?
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Yeah, my understanding of legal-speak is very, very limited. Can anyone post what this allows to be published in normal talk? Please?-P.C.
First, IANAL.

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3. Licensed Products. The license granted in Section 4 is for use solely in connection with Licensee’s publication, distribution, and sale of roleplaying games and roleplaying game supplements that contain the Licensed Materials and are published in a hardcover or soft-cover printed book format or in a single-download electronic book format (such as .pdf), and accessory products to the foregoing roleplaying games and roleplaying game supplements that are not otherwise listed as excluded in Section 5.5 (“Licensed Products”).
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For the avoidance of doubt, and by way of example only, no Licensed Product will (a) include web sites, interactive products, miniatures, or character creators; (b) describe a process for creating a character or applying the effects of experience to a character; (c) use the terms “Core Rules” or “Core Rulebook” or variations thereof on its cover or title, in self-reference or in advertising or marketing thereof; (d) refer to any artwork, imagery or other depiction contained in a Core Rulebook; (e) reprint any material contained in a Core Rulebook except as explicitly provided in Section 4; or (f) be incorporated into another product that is itself not a Licensed Product (such as, by way of example only, a magazine or book compilation).
So...
You can create a hardcover or soft-cover printed book format or in a single-download electronic book format, or anything else what does not fall under those terms:
  • No websites, interactive products, miniatures, character creators
  • Don't describe how to create a character or how to level it up
  • Don't use "Core Rules", "Core Rulebook" or something like it on your cover
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  • Don't reprint stuff from the core books
  • Don't include your work in magazines or other publications that are not licensed under the GSL (This includes websites, so don't publish on your website?!)
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It looks like you can't use any of the existing paragon paths or epic destinies. I find that rather odd.
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I noticed that all the demons, devils, slaad, beholders, and yuan-ti, plus the tarrasque, are not available under the GSL. Let the bitching begin!
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But can I say, make up a completely new race?

Can I give say, Dwarves, different stats?

Could I change the powers available to say, Fighters?

Could I change a specific power's statblock?

I'm looking for what I am allowed to write/change for publishing. =)

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There isn't any to refer to.
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There isn't any to refer to.
But Scott mentioned they were holding the GSL back so they could add that stuff in.
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