The "complete" list of announced 4e 3pp products

[Morrus]

Originally Posted by El Mahdi

Oooooohh! She's intimidating, yet somehow very alluring!

She's not a very nice person. She has a big icy prison where she tortures magic users, using their agony as a power source for her doomsday weapon!

[Jack99]

Originally Posted by Morrus

All I can say is that it will be released, and it will not be under the current GSL. I've actually hired someone to rewrite (who has already finshed the first adventure and the two guides), so it's not speculative: it's underway.

Okay. This time it was crystal clear. Thanks. I have the original serie, and I think the 4e ruleset will be a much better fit. I will definitely buy at least a couple and see how it has turned out.

Cheers

[JVisgaitis]

Originally Posted by Jack99

Correct. But to use your example, FR is fairly vanilla DND. A psionic based alien-inspired world would probably generate monsters that would not fit in a "normal" campaign. Ofc, YMMV, but that would be my guess, hence my question.

I see what you are saying, though I don't really agree. Monsters are one of the easiest thing to get into a game regardless of setting. If you are trying to put something from steampunk or scifi into fantasy, that can present a tougher challenge, but if you are just a bit creative it shouldn't present much of an issue.

I'm not trying to berate you or go off on a tirade or anything, it just always bothered me when people say that a certain set of monsters just can't fit. To answer your question though, the monsters are from our own world. They may be a bit more out of the ordinary than other creatures, but aren't monsters supposed to be unique and exciting?

[Jack99]

Originally Posted by JVisgaitis

I see what you are saying, though I don't really agree. Monsters are one of the easiest thing to get into a game regardless of setting. If you are trying to put something from steampunk or scifi into fantasy, that can present a tougher challenge, but if you are just a bit creative it shouldn't present much of an issue.

I'm not trying to berate you or go off on a tirade or anything, it just always bothered me when people say that a certain set of monsters just can't fit. To answer your question though, the monsters are from our own world. They may be a bit more out of the ordinary than other creatures, but aren't monsters supposed to be unique and exciting?

Thanks for the answer. And to answer your question, yes they are supposed to be unique. I just happen to think they can get too weird. For example, I never ever used a single monster from the 2e Spelljammer MC. Maybe I just never "got them", but they were just too weird for me.

Cheers

Edit: I just wanted to add that I am not familiar with your 3.x work, so I have no idea if I would find your monsters too weird for me, so I will definitely check it out when it comes. But maybe just not buy it unseen, as I do with a lot of other stuff.

[Angellis_ater]

Don't forget Dreamscarred Press' "Phrenic Power: Phrenic Shards" available here: Dreamscarred Press - The Definitive Source for d20 Psionics › Dreamscarred Press PDF Store › Phrenic Power: Phrenic Shards

[defendi]

And of course Critical Matters went on sale yesterday. EN World PDF Store - Final Redoubt Press - Critical Matters (Combat Essentials 1).

That's the PDF version. Alliance has set the print version to release on the 17th. Bug you FLGS into ordering a few.

Our next product, Critical Blunders, is in the pipe.

[soulkeeper]

Originally Posted by Jack99

They make some of the best adventures in the business. Certainly better than WotC.

I agree with this on the Goodman Games. I have not played a 4e adventure yet, but they were very solid in 3.5

I will note however, and with you coming back, this may not matter, but I prefer the WotC adventure setup, when the whole map zoom in, enemy placement, tactics and what not. I tried looking at their examples and so far have not seen this in their layout.

[avin]

Talked to Jason Kempton, about CC4E, Scarred Land's fluff it's in:

"Preview will be available in about a week – release most likely towards end of November."

"We are keeping [and editing] the fluff - thats the best part! Of course, all the stats will be 4E - but I see no point in having boring monster entries - they should be exciting!"

[joethelawyer]

i'm curious as to whether or not these publications will be out under the 4e gsl as it stands, wait until a new one comes out and maybe go gsl then,or if they are going to go the "copyright route", for lack of a better phrase, and use the ogl, and thereby make a 3.x/pathfinder version of the products as well. we'll see i guess.

[Pinotage]

Anybody hear anything from Necromancer Games lately? I see their name is not on the list there.

Pinotage

[JVisgaitis]

Originally Posted by Pinotage

Anybody hear anything from Necromancer Games lately? I see their name is not on the list there.

Nope. I'd imagine they are waiting for the updates to the GSL.

I can speak for any of the other publishers, but our stuff will use the GSL.

[Fifth Element]

Originally Posted by JVisgaitis

There holding a design contest for the 4 missing classes? That's rich. We should do that so we don't have to do any classes too. That's a TON of work for nothing. Crazy.

Especially considering there has already been one book released with 4E versions, and it looks like Goodman has most of them covered as well in a future release.

[Justin D. Jacobson]

One Bad Egg has released Races of the Shroud: The Apelord.



From the product page:

The apelords, once savage apes living in the frozen forests of the North, were changed by the mists of the Shroud forever, giving them the minds of men. Now nomads, they wander the Shroud and beyond, their home forests overrun by the living dead.

Inside this PDF you’ll find a complete player race for Dungeons & Dragons Fourth Edition, along with six racial feats you can use to go ape. You’ll also find several monster entries, from the wandering nomads of the apelord tribes, their guardians and leaders, and the vile undead corruptions of their ancestors and fallen warriors (ranging from levels 4 to 9), and finishing out with a full page of adventure ideas for bringing the tribes of the ape into your game!

Written by Fred Hicks with assists from the rest of the Eggheads.

[Jack99]

Originally Posted by Justin D. Jacobson

One Bad Egg has released Races of the Shroud: The Apelord.



From the product page:



Written by Fred Hicks with assists from the rest of the Eggheads.

That's one cool race. I just bought it, and for the first time in almost 20 years, I will allow a intelligent race of animals in my campaigns. I will definitely be looking forward to the things you will be releasing.

Cheers

[benensky]

Hi All,

I have been working on the 3rd Party for 4E Wiki. Someone added a line for Dark Quest Games. Is any of their stuff 4E? It doese not seem like it to me. I was going to delete their entry otherwise. Any opinions or comments?

Also, any comments on the Wiki page?

Vayden - great post!

-Benensky

[defendi]

That's pretty great. I went through the wiki and updated the info on Final Redoubt Press to include upcoming products and the like.

[Eytan Bernstein]

Goodman Games has a preview of the druid class from their new book Forgotten Heroes: Fang, Fist, and Song.

[JVisgaitis]

Originally Posted by Eytan Bernstein

Goodman Games has a preview of the druid class from their new book Forgotten Heroes: Fang, Fist, and Song.

Pretty cool. I posted a Design Diary for Violet Dawn. It has all of the races described and the current version of their racial powers: A Design Diary on Laying the Foundation for 4th Edition Violet Dawn

[GMSkarka]

Adamant Entertainment's next 4E adventure, Against the Air Pirates will be released in PDF and print on Friday, October 10th. This adventure, for characters of 4th through 6th level, also includes complete rules for Airships in 4E, as well as full deckplan tiles for use with miniatures.

[benensky]

Thanks - added Against the Air Pirates, updated Violet Dawn entry with links and link to design diary & link to a preview of the druid class to 4E 3rd party Wiki.

Mister Skarka, is Ice River Battle a 4E product or a non-game system promo?