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We tried 4e for a few sessions, didn't really like it- so we went back to 3.5
More options, easier on the DM (already knowing the system), and we already owned all the books
One of our biggest complaints with 4E at present is that playing 4E after 3.5 is, at this point, like giving up your top of the line 3D art programs for CorelDraw 1. We've already built up and learned so much, gotten so many options books and tweaked it just so that asking my group to play 4E is a very, very hard sell. Less classes, less combat and spell options, less skills, just...less of everything. My gang doesn't want to use Magic Missile every round, they want to have flexibilty and options.
We fell away near the end of 3.whatever and switched on to Ars Magica and NWoD.
We have some notions of toying with (yet another) deep variant of 3.whatever, but our changes are so extreme that it feels very little like D&D anymore, especially since we emphasize social interactions at least as much as combat.
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Sticking with the following:
- Mutants and Masterminds
- Houseruled 3e with influence from UA and third party supplements with the major third party influences being the following: Fewer Absolutes (Sean Reynolds), Artficer's Handbook (Mystic Eye Games), Elements of Magic: Mythic Earth (EN Publishing), Psychic's Handbook (Green Ronin), and the Book of Iron Might (Malhavoc) and Mutants and Masterminds for its Hero Points) . However, I do want to borrow one thing from 4e in removing nonbiological aspects from the races and making them into feats).
- d20 Modern with influence from UA and third party material with the major influences being Blood and Fists (RPGObjects), Elements of Magic: Mythic Earth (EN Publishing), Psychic's Handbook (Green Ronin), Unearthed Arcana (WOTC), and Mutants and Masterminds, again, for Hero Points).
- True20
- Rolemaster
We are also going to be trying
-Cinematic Unisystem (maybe).
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They're rather opposed to 4e. Mocking, and lots of it, happens if you mention that in my group. My current campaign is 3e, and it's on hiatus at the moment, and there's a 3.5 Netheril era FR campaign going on as well. Beyond that, we've got a Shadowrun (3e SR) game and an oWoD Mage game as well (using the revised books).
Once my campaign resumes and finishes up, I'll be taking a break from DM'ing, but at some point I'll probably start a Golarion/Pathfinder campaign using the Pathfinder system.
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One group is Pathfinder for certain, while the other is anything but D&D.
4E has failed to excite all but a few of my gaming buddies, even after multiple play-testing sessions. On the bright side its opened everyone's eyes to some of the wonderful alternative games and settings that are out there, and we're having a blast making a decision.
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We’re trying 4e, but so far nobody really seems to like it.
“Switch” doesn’t really apply to us, as we play whatever system/edition the current GM wants to run. We’re eclectic.
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My group feel that 4E is a good system but not what we're looking for from an RPG. I'm not interested in running a campaign with 4E but I will look for a group to join to try some 4E as a player. My group will probably end up going with 1E or OD&D as we had been leaning in that direction increasingly the longer we played 3E.
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Switching? Not for a while. At some point, if it gets old, we'll fold the game we're on and try 4e. I've the books, nothing in them compells me to stop the game I'm running - and conversion with half the stuff I'd need would be a pain.
Maybe some M&M and some GURPS tossed in here and there also right now.
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We're sticking with 3.5 Edition for right now, until we end our campaign. Then, we'll move to Witch Hunter and then possibly Dark Heresy. Thereafter, we'll probably go with Savage Worlds or Pathfinder in the far future.
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One game still running 3.5, no interest in 4e. Since I am DMing it and they want to go through Savage Tide AP I have stated that the only way I will run that is 3.5 Core only (with few exceptions) or Pathfinder. Likely someone else will run the game for a bit which is fine after 2 years of DMing Age of Worms with one year to go.
One game is totally new 4E campaign with new or returning have not played since 1E group. They seem to be enjoying the game.
Oh, and our monthly FLGS meetups are 90% 4E, with one pathfinder and one 3.5 game running each month.
Of the four (soon to be five) I'm in: HARP, 3.5, Spycraft 2.0, Heavily modified 3.5, and FantasyCraft.
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Two 4e games BUT My main group is still playing 3.5 D&D. We plan to switch, but might stick with the current campaign and see it through to higher levels (currently level 15 and the current campaign arc will take us to 16th at the most).
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One of my groups is using Pathfinder, and plans to stick with that. A few players do enjoy 4E and play in another game using that ruleset.
Another is still playing 3.5 and wraping up an epic level campaign. After that, I'm guessing we will convert to PRPG, but could stick with 3.5 or another system. So far only 1 player in that group has shown interest in 4E (and is in another group to get his 4E fix.)
My main group is happily staying with 3.5. Everyone enjoys the system (the PCs are currently averaging around 12th level) and no-one likes much of what they've seen of 4e. This group also plays Star Wars Saga, OD&D, Hunter and a smattering of other systems.
My second group also has no interest in moving to 4e. That group plays a real mix of systems but the main ones are Basic D&D (Red Box set) and Mazes and Minotaurs (which will soon be switching to a completely home-brewed game system inspired by Fighting Fantasy).
The third group (I've only recently joined them) have moved from 3e to 4e. I decided to play with them to give 4e a real chance (plus it's fun playing with new people -- my two other groups comprise mainly of old friends). After about half-a-dozen games I'm so far fairly unimpressed but the DM is great and the players are cool so I'll stick around for a while.
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Originally Posted by Philotomy Jurament
The group I just joined is coming off of a 4E game. The new game is Swords & Wizardry (OD&D retro-clone) in the City State of the Invincible Overlord. We had our first session in the City State last night, and it was a blast.
Sounds awesome, Philotomy! I've been reading the Swords & Wizardry discussions with interest.
Would you believe 4e got me to switch back to 3.5e? I was running C&C, but the group drifted apart around the time 4e came out. I don't much like 4e but I do like some of the concepts - fallen empires and Points of Light, which I used in the 3.5e game I'm running now at the London D&D Meetup. I started it in July and it's going great so far at 2 games a month, the next is this Saturday.
None of my group (who are all college aged WoW players and thus 4e's targeted demographic) were interested in playing 4e at all. We played 3.5 last year. We're playing HackMaster now.
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