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These boards are filled with people who have switched to 4E, but in talking to the players I know, the switch has been much more gradual. There is a lot of talk about 4E, but the number of 4E games that I know of is pretty low compared to the number of ongoing 3.5 campaigns.
We are, when we all have the spare time, playing 4E. If we hadn't liked it, we would be busy playing Arcana Evolved/Ptolus, Call of Cthulhu, Mage 2nd Ed, Aberrant, Changeling:the Lost, etc. Too many games, not all the time in the world like college
We are, when we all have the spare time, playing 4E. If we hadn't liked it, we would be busy playing Arcana Evolved/Ptolus, Call of Cthulhu, Mage 2nd Ed, Aberrant, Changeling:the Lost, etc. Too many games, not all the time in the world like college
Before 4e came out, we decided to give it a try if we did not like it we were gonna say goodbye to D&D until 5th edition came out. We all voted for Runequest as an alternative, but once we read 4e we decided to we loved the changes and will stick with it.
M&M, as much as possible. It has brought back tons more excitement and fun into RPGs, for which I and others are eternally grateful. There are a few tweaks I've made, and I'm looking into a couple of full-on variants based on it, but in any case, it'll still be M&M.
Also, probably a bit of True20 and some house-ruled D&D 3.5 / Pathfinder RPG, and maybe whatever else people feel like GMing at the time (as always.)
What did you guys switch to? Did your group go to 3.xe, 2e, 1e, Pathfinder, Savage Worlds, True20, or what?
No switching. Got many 3e and d20 products to use.
May salvage some good material from Pathfinder or any future OGL-based products (the ones "compatible with the third edition of the best-selling fantasy roleplaying game").
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We went to Savage Worlds and are very happy.
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The group I just joined is coming off of a 4E game. The new game is Swords & Wizardry (OD&D retro-clone) in the City State of the Invincible Overlord. We had our first session in the City State last night, and it was a blast.
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I've been playing Scion and looking into other White Wolf games. Pretty much what I did when I got to the end of AD&D's run. I might get into Savage Worlds and Mutants & Masterminds if I find someone running something I'm really interested in too.
Really though, the drama here and elsewhere about D&D has really soured me on the whole thing. D&D, in any incarnation, just isn't much fun right now because of its association in my mind with overly opinionated jerks.
Really though, the drama here and elsewhere about D&D has really soured me on the whole thing. D&D, in any incarnation, just isn't much fun right now because of its association in my mind with overly opinionated jerks.
Meh. I just ignore them and play D&D the way I want to play it.
Trust me, every game with a fan community have a circle of overly opinionated jerks. D&D is not alone.
__________________ Anyhoo, just some random thoughts...
My philosophy is "you don't need me to tell you how to play -- I'll just provide some rules and ideas to use and get out of your way." --Monte Cook
We're sticking with 3.5 for now and the foreseeable future...by which I mean probably until 5Ed and beyond. In a group of 10+ gamers, only 2 people have expressed an interest in trying 4Ed- neither wants to DM it. I'd play the game, too, but since I'm the one with the books and will NEVER run it (yes, I dislike it that much), we're at an impasse.
Personally, I may try to run a campaign I'm designing in True20 or M&M (with an announced but as-yet unreleased fantasy genre supplement"), since one of the features of the campaign is that the players will be designing their own spells & magical effects...
Otherwise, I'll just run it in 3.X (IOW, 3.5 with stuff brought in from 3PP products).
We found 4E to be "OK", but not great enough to switch too, so we are staying with our old system.
As for the system we stayed with, and 3 of us were DM's, read my sig area. Strangely most of our players were not interested in switching. They have fallen in love with simplicity. Those who were interested have been involved in our play testing, which has a couple of more sessions to go. We are all happy with what we are doing, and none of us desire to switch to 4E.
Surprised me, I thought for sure there were at least 5 players in our groups that I thought would love 4E. I was kind of hoping I would be one of them.
Anyways, no new love for us, we'll be sticking with our old love.
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We play a variety of games depending on our mood be it; 4e D&D, nWoD (Mortal, Promethean, Vampire, Changeling, gonna be playing Hunter soon) and Cthulhutech.
But we tried 4E and came out of it with various opinions. Most didn't like it, one or two hated it and one thought it was down right ok. If I have to D&D it'll be 3.5 for me and my posse.
We'll stick to Star Trek (LUG ICON System, Classic Traveller, Faery's Tale, Star Wars (WEG D6), the new-weird-game-we-want-to-try-this-time and my pet projects, Galaxy Quest and Oz (Homebrews).
There are a few tweaks I've made, and I'm looking into a couple of full-on variants based on it, but in any case, it'll still be M&M.
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