4e / GSL 4E Monster Manual II: will you?

[Dice4Hire]

I have it.

[mach1.9pants]

Originally Posted by Dice4Hire

I have it.

@**(&$*&# Japanese market! It is just not fair BTW is the Kenku a playable race? I love kenku....
I'll get it and the PDF like all the other books.... hang on a second...

[Inyssius]

Originally Posted by mach1.9pants

BTW is the Kenku a playable race? I love kenku...

Ayup. They get a +3 from flanking, but I think that's their only racial feature.

[mach1.9pants]

Originally Posted by Inyssius

Ayup. They get a +3 from flanking, but I think that's their only racial feature.

Ah well I am sure that'll change in PHB6

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

I should be able to get it from the post office this afternoon.

[Peraion Graufalke]

I took the second option; buying all of WotC's books would put too much of a strain on my budget.

But to be fair, I got my copy of MM2 in the mail yesterday.

[Peraion Graufalke]

Originally Posted by Inyssius

Ayup. They get a +3 from flanking, but I think that's their only racial feature.

That +3 also applies to aid another, and they can also mimic sounds and voices using Bluff. +2 Dex, +2 Cha, low-light vision, speed 6, medium size.

[Evilhalfling]

my homegame switched back to 3.75 but yeah I have every intention of picking this one up. I mean im still running a PbP game in 4e, so I need this one right?

lothtouched goblins? DRETCH! (happy dance)

realistically ill read the commentary here on Enworld, thumb through it and buy it unless Im really disappointed.

[Upper_Krust]

Hey all!

I'm still buying it, but I am a bit annoyed there is 50% less epic tier content in MM2 from MM1.

[Drkfathr1]

I'll be buying just so I can finish off most of the classics that were missing from MMI. After that though I'm probably done with MM's. The ease of statting creatures based on their level and role makes multiple Monster books less necessary. Especially with the fluff cut-out. I've got 30 years of monsters to work with!

[La Bete]

Maybe.

I don't crack open the MM1 very often, as I tend to use the encounter builder and compendium for my monster needs.

[Jhaelen]

Well, I got my copy two days ago...

[Stormtalon]

They had me at "Maw of Acamar." More aberrations, pussycat, KILL KILL!

[Hereticus]

It is a core book, so if I will be playing or DMing 4.0E, I will have to buy it.

As of now my group is ending in two weeks, and I won't buy it until (if) I find a new group that prefers this edition.

Presently I own:
Players Handbook -I
Players Handbook -II
Monster Manual -I
Dungeon Masters Guide -I
Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting -I

My next buys will be:
Players Handbook -III
Monster Manual -II
Arcane Powers -I

[Kamikaze Midget]

I'll buy it when and if I need it.

I probably won't, since my DDI subscription will have all the book offers.

[neuronphaser]

Other:

With DDI, I don't see much need for books that are mostly "rulesy" and a Monster Manual -- chock full of stat blocks -- is on that list. I much prefer using DDI to pull my monsters from, because then I can reskin, copy/paste, and do all that junk.

Now, I'll definitely thumb through the book, to check out some of the art and some of the "fluffier" stuff that they add, but unless there's something amazing in there that I need to reference time and time again, I doubt I'll pick up the book. Not saying it won't happen, but that it's not likely.

If Monster Manuals come with "something else" beyond monster stat blocks and Knowledge check results, then sign me up. I don't know what that something else is, though. Some thoughts:

- really good, in-depth (but preferably not LONG) ecology info
- good lair maps
- monster and encounter design tips, tricks and articles
- stuff I can't find on DDI (maybe new lists of traps, poisons, diseases along with fluff text, in addition to [and hopefully with thematic ties to] the monsters appearing)
- story ideas/essays featuring info on the specific monsters
- playtest notes?
- alternate designs of specific abilities (rather than just alternate takes on a monster; kind of like the add-on abilities that I believe show up for existing undead in Open Grave)

A standalone adventure with monsters from that manual appearing might be neat. Or campaign ideas.

Not really sure though what it would take. DDI is just way more my style, because I'm cool with doing must of the story/setting stuff on my own, and I don't need to reference pictures often.

[Crothian]

Yes, I will be getting this book. At some point like in 3e I'll stop buying the monster books but we are not there yet.

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

I have it! I haven't muched time to read through it, but the Star Spawn monster made me happy already. There is also some nice fluff on the "Stars"... Yeah, these stars are not your fathers stars...

[Dice4Hire]

Originally Posted by Crothian

Yes, I will be getting this book. At some point like in 3e I'll stop buying the monster books but we are not there yet.

Agreed. I will most definitely get MMIII, but after that I will think longer and harder.