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If one judges the success of a product based upon how well it sells in the marketplace, 4E is a rampant success. As for its longevity…time, of course, will tell.
You cannot simultaneously fix the flaws of 3E while maintaining the revised game’s backward compatibility. You can do one, or the other, but they are mutually exclusive.
Paizo did not adopt 4E...because WotC wouldn’t let them. WotC revoked the Dungeon and Dragon licenses, and then proceeded to make a putrid mess of the GSL. Paizo had employees to pay and GenCon to attend; they "chose" PF because they had no other choice. If you believe it was for artistic differences or the love of the Great Wheel cosmology, you’re fooling yourself.
People who claim a certain edition of a RPG keeps them from role-playing should learn to role-play that no game can keep them from role-playing.
Eladrin are stupid.
1E is my edition of choice. For a one-shot.
The version of 4E that hit the shelves was woefully incomplete. The fact this was likely done to produce evergreen revenue streams in no way excuses it.
No one should have been charged a red copper for DDI until the entire suite of tools was released, including the Visualizer and the Gaming Table.
There's far too much whining on these boards. This list is a case in point.
Erik Mona single-handedly saved the production lives of both Dungeon and Dragon magazine, and WotC cut off their nose to spite their face when they ended their agreement with Paizo.
Nothing I can quibble with too badly. Now send it to WotC in the form of a letter composed of magazine clippings entitled "LIST O' DEMANDS" along with the severed end of Mike Mearls's pinky finger, and we'll call it golden.
Funny. I'd have said Eladrin used to be called elves. In 4e, they made up a new race and, true to 4e fashion, took a previously used name (in this case, elf) and recycled it.
I did give xp for #6, though.
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Funny. I'd have said Eladrin used to be called elves. In 4e, they made up a new race and, true to 4e fashion, took a previously used name (in this case, elf) and recycled it.
While 4E has it's share of recycled names, (Archons, I'm looking at you!), 4Elves aren't new, they are wood/sylvan elves, a classic D&D subrace. 4Eladrins are a mishmash of high/grey elves and the planescape eladrins.
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[*]The version of 4E that hit the shelves was woefully incomplete. The fact this was likely done to produce evergreen revenue streams in no way excuses it.
I think that you're using the term "evergreen" incorrectly. AFAIK, it refers to a product, such as a PDF, that can theoretically remain commercially viable forever, not a self-perpetuating supplement line driven by information (or lack thereof) in preceding books (a model that existed more than a decade before the terms "evergreen" or "long tail" were coined with regard to RPGs).
I think that you're using the term "evergreen" incorrectly. AFAIK, it refers to a product, such as a PDF, that can theoretically remain commercially viable forever, not a self-perpetuating supplement line driven by information (or lack thereof) in preceding books (a model that existed more than a decade before the terms "evergreen" or "long tail" were coined with regard to RPGs).
As for the list, I would add:
D&D is serious business.
You're taking D&D too seriously.
Making those 19 and 20.
21 a) 4E is NOT a role playing game
21 b) 4E is a board game
21 c) Anything can be a role playing game, even a board game like Monopoly.
__________________ Psionics are too sci-fi, not like the traditional method of spell casting that has existed only in D&D, involves research, laboratory work, and formulas, and was cribbed directly from a series of science fiction novels. I mean, come on, calling forth the power to alter the world from your own center of will? That's not magical in the slightest! Not at all like my wizard's spell "Telepathy!"
__________________ "This game requires no gameboard because the action takes place in your imagination..." - Cover of Dungeons & Dragons Basic Rules Set 1.
0. OD&D(1974) is the one true game. All the other editions are just poor imitations of the real thing.
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I know that I've never really liked d20. I think it was designed by a bunch of hacks --- Monte Cook
I am sickened beyond belief. The half-orc wizard is obviously the best possible PC, and I only had to read 10 pages of the book to figure it out. D&D is dead to me! -- Mike Mearls
FWIW, I'm on the design team and I pretty much find WoW as fun and interesting as banging my head against a brick wall. -- Mike Mearls
you happen to say that 4E reminds you of the reasons you decided against a career as a special-Ed teacher--noted rpg author Darrin Drader
-1. Diaglo will be in the thread (any thread) soon to tell us "OD&D(1974) is the one true game. All the other editions are just poor imitations of the real thing."
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I have played 4E. And just like all other editions of D&D, it is awesome!
no one quotes me in sigs - Crothian
For some reason, this doesn't fill me with rage. I must be interwebbing wrong. - Cadfan