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Not listed but Birthright, which was easily the best 2nd Ed setting ever released. You should be slowly roasted over hot coals for not putting it in your poll.
Not listed but Birthright, which was easily the best 2nd Ed setting ever released. You should be slowly roasted over hot coals for not putting it in your poll.
Won't happen though.
I have to agree. I loved Birthright, but after reading numerous comments on these forums I realised there wasn't that much love for Birthright as I had hoped, so I left it out of the list. I should have put it in, but...
Anyway, Birthright has been a favourite of mine for ages, and, as you said, easily the best 2e setting.
Honorable mention: I'd like to see WotC release Rich Burlew's setting (he was 2nd or 3rd place in the competition that Rich Baker won with Eberron, right?). These would be the first and quite possibly only 4e books I would own.
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Perhaps if all the people that want Birthright vote Dragonlance and all the people that want Planescape vote Spelljammer, that would work, because nobody would vote for those settings otherwise we would know what people mean.
Perhaps if all the people that want Birthright vote Dragonlance and all the people that want Planescape vote Spelljammer, that would work, because nobody would vote for those settings otherwise we would know what people mean.
In all honesty, I only put those 5 options because I can't imagine WOTC ever releasing a 4e Planescape setting...not with the new cosmology and the manual of the planes book, etc. I really just don't think it's part of their plan (my opinion). I listed the 5 settings I thought might have a chance of being revamped for 4e.
I was just kidding, I agree with you about Planescape, and that's also part of the reason I don't think we will see Birthright. The Cosmology is different, Halflings would need reworking, probably they should have Shadow Step and the Feywild would be combined with the Shadowrealm. Still certainly a smaller leap from standard 4th Ed D&D than Planescape.
Of those, I think Dark Sun would be the most interesting. Speaking as a Dragonlance fan, I think that seeting was mined for just about all it was worth in 3e; the concept of Ravenloft now appears to have become core, and in style; Spelljammer is a little 'out there' this early in 4E's run; and Greyhawk... meh, I can see it happening, but I don't anticipate it following straight after FR.
So, Dark Sun all the way.
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Oddly enough, the consensus that I heard from the FR fans is, 'At least we weren't butchered like DL until now.'
Well at least Greenwood still works with FR. Do you think Tracy or Margaret will work with WotC for 4th?
Kenders would be gone, Draconians would be turned into offshoot dragonborn, or allow draconian PCs, both of which would violate DL having dragon-people running around not under the control a Tak.
then you have such a heavy tie to the gods like Paladine, any the wau 4th treats gods as not touching to world of mortals, it would be as if Tanis was right all along!
The gods have left this word!
Welcome to the new cataclysm!
Oh wait. There would be a time skip of a few centuries and the Grey Stone has come back that changed draconians into dragonborn, and kender into normal halflings, and everyone that should still be alive is dead because like the dinosaurs they got to old and fat and turned to oil, and then the Arabs came and they bought Mercedes Benz's.....
In all honesty, I only put those 5 options because I can't imagine WOTC ever releasing a 4e Planescape setting...not with the new cosmology and the manual of the planes book, etc. I really just don't think it's part of their plan (my opinion). I listed the 5 settings I thought might have a chance of being revamped for 4e.
I don't think they will either. They seem hellbent on making any setting conform as much as possible to the 4e core, and the setting's unique elements be damned if need be in the process. I fear that we wouldn't see a 4e Planescape that didn't require use of the 4e PoL cosmology, and given the previews of the 4e MotP, I'm not interested.
I'd rather a setting I love remain unused for an edition and well remembered rather than hacked apart like FR fans already had to go through.
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