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SP1 may not even be on Windows Update yet. They were targeting "November". Remember we're testing an early pre-release of a brand new app. By the time it comes out of Beta and is released, SP1 should have been automatically downloaded by anyone who needs it.
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SP1 may not even be on Windows Update yet. They were targeting "November". Remember we're testing an early pre-release of a brand new app. By the time it comes out of Beta and is released, SP1 should have been automatically downloaded by anyone who needs it.
I forgot Microsoft is like DDI and slow to get things done.
Well at least glad to know Lord_X and others are getting use out of it and they got a quick test fix for x64 users.
I guess an official microsoft release isn't good enough for my computer to automatically download.
I blame Vista
If I'm not mistaken, the .NET framework 3.5 is an optional update, since not all PCs need it.
If that is the case, then you need to make sure that you occasionally run Windows Update to see if there are any optional updates you want to install.
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I guess an official microsoft release isn't good enough for my computer to automatically download.
I blame Vista
Adding a Service Pack or similar release to Automatic Updates usually happens some time after the initial release. Service Packs have the tendency to change a lot of stuff and create unexpected side effects, and this gives administrators world-wide the chance to see if such side effects occur and either inform Microsoft (if it's serious enough) or implement their own fixed for this. If all Windows PCs automatically update, you risk problems. Of course, this still assumes that Admins stay in touch with the service packs and similar fixes, but that's kinda his job.
The same happened with the Windows Vista Service Pack 1. .NET 3.5 SP1 is very recent.
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If I'm not mistaken, the .NET framework 3.5 is an optional update, since not all PCs need it.
If that is the case, then you need to make sure that you occasionally run Windows Update to see if there are any optional updates you want to install.
That might be, too. IIRC, Vista ships with .NET 3.0 build in, not 3.5.
It might be hard to explain, but basically: .NET 3.0 and 3.5 can (and sometimes have) to exist in parallel. While a Service Pack or a bugfix release will really exchange the old version...
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My install took forever, but I'm used to that since I never use the windows partition, which means that every time windows boots, it takes a while to get itself updated. That and really I don't worry too much about installation times.
General criticisms: it runs like a windows program. That is, it has its own interface that really doesn't look like any other interface I've ever used, so I have to learn that particular program. It also seems to require a lot of clicks that really seem to be just version of "are you sure?" That said, its about what I expect anytime I boot into windows.
A few problems with word wrapping on the character sheet. My eladrin racial features text get cut off when they go outside their box rather than wrapping to the next line. It would also be nice to be able to set font sizes.
The power cards are nice. I can't say that they are perfect, but they are really good. I do have some complaints about the formating though. First, it would be really nice to have an easy way to cut them out. A slight amount of space between each card, those guide lines that show where the cutter should start, etc. Something so I don't have to think much to cut the cards free. Second, it would be nice if you could arrange them such that the static ones are on a different page. If I have a few vials of alchemist's acid, I don't need to waste toner every level to print the same card out, similarly fey step is the same regardless of level, as are my wizard's cantrips.
The good: I think this program has done what none of the 3e character generators was able to do, make using stuff outside the phb options work as well as the core options. Of course, the big test of this will be when martial power comes out, but so far I've been reasonably impressed.
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That might be, too. IIRC, Vista ships with .NET 3.0 build in, not 3.5.
It might be hard to explain, but basically: .NET 3.0 and 3.5 can (and sometimes have) to exist in parallel. While a Service Pack or a bugfix release will really exchange the old version...
Yes, .NET 3.0 and .NET 3.5 do run in parallel, and they don't conflict, they enhance each other. In truth, a lot of it is just updates additional libraries for 2.0.
Though, .NET 3.5 SP1, might be considered an "important" update to .NET 3.5 and would be downloaded automatically if you had 3.5 installed. Not sure, since I don't think it's up at Windows Update yet.
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Characters & Games
Books currently in play: Dungeon & Dragon Magazine (*Scales of War AP*), WOTC 4e Core and Supplemental books
Current Campaign: Scales of War - Lost Mines of Karak -- Kodirgo, Minotaur Barbarian 6; Vondal, Dwarf Cleric 6; Karithul, Gnome Bard 6; Marshaun, Elf Druid 6
Also, I just installed the x64 friendly download and it works great on my Vista x64 Ultimate! Now, to evaluate the product...
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Try to not let failure to use technical language properly get in the way of getting to the real point under discussion. - Umbran
Characters & Games
Books currently in play: Dungeon & Dragon Magazine (*Scales of War AP*), WOTC 4e Core and Supplemental books
Current Campaign: Scales of War - Lost Mines of Karak -- Kodirgo, Minotaur Barbarian 6; Vondal, Dwarf Cleric 6; Karithul, Gnome Bard 6; Marshaun, Elf Druid 6
For all who want to know, if you log into DDI and go to the Character Builder download page, the version for everyone to get is the updated version. You don't need to track down a forum post to get to it.
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Characters & Games
Books currently in play: Dungeon & Dragon Magazine (*Scales of War AP*), WOTC 4e Core and Supplemental books
Current Campaign: Scales of War - Lost Mines of Karak -- Kodirgo, Minotaur Barbarian 6; Vondal, Dwarf Cleric 6; Karithul, Gnome Bard 6; Marshaun, Elf Druid 6
Hooray! Now it works on my big-boy computer, not just my baby laptop. Now I just need to port over the characters I made last night (and the custom portraits I found online and added to the folder)...
You are kidding. it skipped it!
I forgot Microsoft is like DDI and slow to get things done. 
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