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Sure, if they just wanted to throw resources at it until it's done they could do that. Is that cost efficient? Likely not.
Mr. Rouse has already explained that the responsibility is his to get it done, and that there are several things he has to do first.
WotC may not "care" as much as you do about getting the revised GSL done right away. Don't make the mistake of assuming they don't care at all. It's a pretty simplistic view of business operations to just say "get it done already".
It does not "care" means it is not a priority. Be it because of cost efficiency, be it because of whatever other reasons might exist (for example legal). I am not sure what we are disagreeing about here.
It does not "care" means it is not a priority. Be it because of cost efficiency, be it because of whatever other reasons might exist (for example legal). I am not sure what we are disagreeing about here.
We disagree because your "care/don't care" idea is too simplistic to be applied to a complex entity like WotC. There are many degrees of "care" here, and each gets its attention when the time comes.
"WotC doesn't care about the GSL" is just a painfully simplistic way to look at it. It's like a sound bite. It doesn't consider context and it ignores the complexity of the issue.
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So only Scott is able to do the GSL around the world? And even if that be the case only Scott is able to do what other duties he is having right now?
It appears so. I have no idea what WotC's staffing is like, but if it's on Scott's plate and only Scott's, then chances are he's the one to do it.
"Around the world" has nothing to do with it. "Inside WotC" is the relevant environment. Considering recent cutbacks, there is no way they would add someone to the brand team just to get this done.
It may be that there is someone else who could do it, just not as well. That's an efficiency question as well: do you get it done just to get it done, since that would risk errors and problems that you wouldn't risk if you wait until the right person is available?
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It appears so. I have no idea what WotC's staffing is like, but if it's on Scott's plate and only Scott's, then chances are he's the one to do it.
"Around the world" has nothing to do with it. "Inside WotC" is the relevant environment. Considering recent cutbacks, there is no way they would add someone to the brand team just to get this done.
It may be that there is someone else who could do it, just not as well. That's an efficiency question as well: do you get it done just to get it done, since that would risk errors and problems that you wouldn't risk if you wait until the right person is available?
Waiting has its risks too. But I doupt Wotc has done a risk managment analysis or operational researcj regarding the times of development of GSL and its efficiency.
To get done with this it so seems that the disagreement here is how we picture Wotc with our messages. Have my posts seem like a sound bite? I did not have the intention and I apologize. But perhaps I tend to post like this because of the celebrious history from its beginning till now?
I think it speaks volumes that we haven't seen third party publishers pushing for the revised GSL. I suspect that those who felt beholden to WotC have already signed on, and those alienated by WotC's current attitude towards 3PPs and the continual changes and delays have moved on.
Beholden? Alienated? This isn't a fiefdom or a high school locker room.
The third party publishers who feel they can best make money publishing 4e material right now are going to do so right now. Those who feel they can better spend their efforts elsewhere will do so. If or when a new GSL is written, some third party publishers will change their minds about their best course of business.
Any third party publisher who is genuinely making business decisions out of a sense of obligation or alienation deserves to go out of business.
The third party publishers who feel they can best make money publishing 4e material right now are going to do so right now. Those who feel they can better spend their efforts elsewhere will do so. If or when a new GSL is written, some third party publishers will change their minds about their best course of business.
Any third party publisher who is genuinely making business decisions out of a sense of obligation or alienation deserves to go out of business.
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This is how I see it as well. It's about business decisions, not emotions or high-school cliquery (my word.. I made it up.. no need to comment about my grammar..)
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Waiting has its risks too. But I doupt Wotc has done a risk managment analysis or operational researcj regarding the times of development of GSL and its efficiency.
A formal risk management analysis? Likely not. But when Le Rouse talks about prioritizing his tasks, it means he's doing an informal risk analysis in his head every time he makes a decision.
And once again, don't forget that there is a GSL out there. We're talking about a revision to the GSL. If there were no GSL at all, I suspect its priority would be much higher.
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Oh, and while I'm in 'back to the OP' mode in general. . .
It'll never happen anyway. It wouldn't achieve anything, to start with. And it's presumptuous, and maybe even arrogant. Plus, there are publishers who've already gone ahead with 4e stuff, regardless.
While the revised GSL is on hold, then it may also place the the functionality of a publisher on hold as well.
Um...okay?
Look, my point is this: it's easy to say "I support this idea" if you have nothing to lose in the deal. Say, if you're not a publisher. The only people whose support matters are the publishers who would be issuing the ultimatum to WotC.
But of course, to those people it's a business decision, and they would be silly to restrict themselves by assigning an arbitrary deadline. You expect them not to publish 4E stuff if WotC comes out with a great revised GSL, but two weeks after the "deadline", just because they missed it. That's not a rational business decision.
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You, as a publisher, fail to recognize that non-publishers also have things to lose if a revised GSL is held up indefinitely.
I don't fail to see anything. But we know the revised GSL is in the queue, so this hypothetical seems moot.
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It is called quality of product from publishers that they may wish were making 4th edition material.
Looking at it from this perspective, then, the ultimatum is a bad idea.
Say a bunch of publishers get together and set a deadline. If the deadline is missed, they all go Pathfinder.
So WotC releases a revised GSL two weeks after this deadline. All of these publishers have said they have gone Pathfinder, and will not go 4E. So you have this bunch of publishers who could have been producing quality 4E stuff, but they now refuse because of some artificial deadline.
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For some reason, this doesn't fill me with rage. I must be interwebbing wrong. - Cadfan
Seriously, work WITH WotC, not against them. They aren't the enemy, they're just the uncoordinated brontosaurus that keeps falling over their own tail. Teach that brontosaurus to DANCE, and you've got a show.
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