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Old 20th December 2008, 05:19 PM   #81 (permalink)
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You didn't. Someone else certainly did. Um...Darkwolf, anyone?

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You're right, I did. I was going to come back and edit that, but my father came into town a day early and threw everything out of whack for me.

Dire Bare may or may not have been jerkish, but I certainly felt a (probably unintentional) snide-ness. Eye of the beholder and all that.

Anyway, I've had my say, and I've been grilled quite enough for it. I'll bail and let y'all drool over Wil's Masterful Review of Glowing Splendor.
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Old 20th December 2008, 08:24 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Not to be rude or anything, but why should I care whether wil wheaton likes or doesnt like 4e?
Short answer: You shouldn't. But you knew this.

Longer answer:

(a) You like his style of writing,
(b) You respect his opinion,
(c) You tend to agree with his outlook based on past experience,
(d) You were unsure whether to purchase 4e and suspect his review may be of value for you.

Pretty simple, really.

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Old 20th December 2008, 08:40 PM   #84 (permalink)
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I feel left out and rejected. Even Ensign Crusher likes 4e. Time to go eat some ice cream and cry myself to sleep.
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I feel left out and rejected. Even Ensign Crusher likes 4e. Time to go eat some ice cream and cry myself to sleep.
If it helps, he's also a big fan of True20.
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Old 20th December 2008, 10:36 PM   #86 (permalink)
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I maintain that 'nerd' is a label that's becoming less relevant. Being smart is becoming more important in society, and the people doing the creative work are more increasingly 'nerdy' (although I prefer "geek" as a term, personally) in film, certainly. As such, I suppose we're both right!
The reason you prefer "geek" to "nerd" is that "geek" has been moving increasingly into the mainstream, whereas "nerd" still holds heavy negative connotations. People like us will admit more or less proudly to being geeks, but usually take some exception if called nerds, except with acceptable irony or in self-deprecation.

It probably differs from region to region, but I think the difference can be summed up by saying "geeks are high-functioning nerds." The difference is almost one of caricature (e.g., Comic Book Guy from "The Simpsons"), but nerds do exist in reality. They just rarely make it into the public spotlight. (Bill Gates is one huge exception. And yes, I've met him. Believe me, he's a nerd. Surprisingly nice guy, and surprisingly good low-limit hold'em player, but definitely a nerd.)

I agree with you that geek is highly bankable, but I agree with the other poster that nerd is not.

BTW, I enjoyed Wil's blog entry, but I came away with the impression that Wil would have raved just as strongly if he'd played 3.5 or the mythical 4E that might have been.
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Not to be rude or anything, but why should I care whether wil wheaton likes or doesnt like 4e?
One could ask the same thing about anyone's review of anything, anywhere.
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Old 20th December 2008, 11:36 PM   #88 (permalink)
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BTW, I enjoyed Wil's blog entry, but I came away with the impression that Wil would have raved just as strongly if he'd played 3.5 or the mythical 4E that might have been.
Concur.

I bet the same could be said even of PF, as Wil and Mr. Mona seem to have (or have had) a good relationship from back in the day when Wil wrote a monthly editorial in the great non-electronic Dungeon.
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Old 20th December 2008, 11:57 PM   #89 (permalink)
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BTW, I enjoyed Wil's blog entry, but I came away with the impression that Wil would have raved just as strongly if he'd played 3.5 or the mythical 4E that might have been.
I also liked his blog entry, but I don't think that 3.5 or pathfinder would have been quite the same. After all he was a little worried about the new edition. The review is lots about the relief from anxiety over the new edition, relief turned into joy. Also he really dug the DMG like no other. I presume he has read the 3.5 DMG and maybe even the Pathfinder beta.

Though I do agree, most of the raving has to do with WHO he gamed with and under what circumstances. Sneak preview and all that.
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One could ask the same thing about anyone's review of anything, anywhere.
Exactly! It is why I laugh at all reviews and judge things for myself.
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Old 21st December 2008, 02:49 AM   #91 (permalink)
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Exactly! It is why I laugh at all reviews and judge things for myself.
And yet, you started this thread. The irony.
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And yet, you started this thread. The irony.
"Irony" is a far kinder term than I'd have used...
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And yet, you started this thread. The irony.
Every discussion of any review anywhere requires someone to inevitably bring up how not reading reviews makes them a unique snowflake. Don't blame the man for doing his part. :P
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I am constantly amazed by the number of people who try to argue or refute the idea that WoW is like 4E, while not having played one and/or the other.
And I am constantly amazed by the number of people that claim the two are alike, being a DM of a weekly 4e game and having two 80th-level toons.
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And I am constantly amazed by the number of people that claim the two are alike, being a DM of a weekly 4e game and having two 80th-level toons.
I am just constantly amazed...
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WoW is easy, do not be amazed. Getting a few 80's can be done in very little (relatively) time.
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