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View Poll Results: Changeover Poll
Complete Changeover: All 4E played now, no earlier editions of D&D 387 30.38%
Largely over: Mostly 4E played now, some earlier edition play 76 5.97%
Half over: Half 4E played now, half earlier edition play 51 4.00%
Partial Changeover: Some 4E played now, mostly earlier edition play 22 1.73%
Slight Changeover: A little 4E played now, mostly earlier edition play 35 2.75%
No Change: Tried 4E, went back to earlier edition play 371 29.12%
No Change: Never tried 4E, all earlier edition play 332 26.06%
Voters: 1274. This poll is closed

 
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Old 31st December 2008, 12:46 AM   #141 (permalink)
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There are different kind of polls? What are the difference?
On a public poll you can see who voted and count the respondents by name rather than have "guests" vote that could skew the numbers behind the scenes.
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Of course that doesn't stop Alt Boy! the classic ban-averting troll from showing up.

Or Sock puppets. And it comes with a pressure to go along with groupthink.
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There are different kind of polls? What are the difference?
Public polls allow you to see who voted for whatever option.
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Of course that doesn't stop Alt Boy! the classic ban-averting troll from showing up.

Or Sock puppets. And it comes with a pressure to go along with groupthink.
The nerdrage is strong in this one.

Really. If this poll showed that everyone on EN World had switched to 4E you wouldn't be complaining about it.
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Old 31st December 2008, 01:56 AM   #145 (permalink)
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Really. If this poll showed that everyone on EN World had switched to 4E you wouldn't be complaining about it.
I know I would, and I'm a 4e fan. I feel it a solemn duty of my life's work to pop into all polls on EN World, regardless of results or question, and state how ludicrous they are.*

(Of course, I still vote in them. Chalk it up with Oprah, Skittles, and N'Sync in my list o' guilty pleasures.)

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Really. If this poll showed that everyone on EN World had switched to 4E you wouldn't be complaining about it.
Nuh-uh.

Why are you defending it so vigorously? Are you invested in the result yourself?
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Nuh-uh.

Why are you defending it so vigorously? Are you invested in the result yourself?
Yeah, I see what you're doing there and it was well done, really - but you're the one who started this. Again, good try at deflecting, though.
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Old 31st December 2008, 02:52 AM   #148 (permalink)
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With around 425 votes in, the results:

Changeover: 31%
No Changover: 57%
Partial Changeover: 12%

Another comment (laughs lightly)

When I had the first Changeover Poll, the Edition Wars uproar came into it.
No Edition Wars this time. Everyone has been extremely courteous, extraordinarily polite and congenial, especially compared to the first poll (So much so, that it is like Mr. Roger's Neighborhood in comparison. I like this! )

But there is something new, and I shall give it a name ... Poll Wars! : )

But it is not something I think anyone in the Galaxy should be concerned about, any more than they should be concerned about the results of this poll.

EDIT: Eastern Asia and Australia are comimg in for their second round at this poll, and they seem pro-Changeover, so those rooting for Changeover, watch your numbers rise.
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There are different kind of polls? What are the difference?
A public poll displays the screen names for all voters and which choice they voted for.

EDIT: I suppose I should check the rest of the thread before answering questions.
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A public poll displays the screen names for all voters and which choice they voted for.

EDIT: I suppose I should check the rest of the thread before answering questions.
Nah, just goes to show how helpful we are here
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The nerdrage is strong in this one.


And the rudeness is strong with you. Cut it out.

Everyone - play nice, please.
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Old 31st December 2008, 03:34 AM   #152 (permalink)
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Voted "tried 4e, switched back to an older game." Really, we're playing SWSE right now (if 4e was like THIS instead...), and will probably try out Pathfinder when it comes out...

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Add me to "Changeover Completely". I be fine with playing 3.5 with the right DM. But when it comes to my preferred game for playing and the only one I will DM (of D&D editions) is 4e.
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Old 31st December 2008, 03:50 AM   #154 (permalink)
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Tried 4E. Still playing Pathfinder, C&C, and True20. Wouldn't have it any other way.
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Re: Stats & polls.

If you check the other, previous thread, a statistics teacher laid down the law as to why (and in which ways) Edena's poll was valid and the ways in which it wasn't.

I'm just saying.
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3.5 is the last edition of D&D.
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At least until 5th... maybe.
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To be honest, I had thought the numbers would be different this time around. I argued that there were a number of posters, back in the original poll, that like me were in the middle of a 3e (or whatever) campaign and would likely switch over when that ended and the whole "splitting the fanbase" thing wasn't as large as it appeared.

Well, it appears that I was wrong. The split is very much there. A real shame I suppose. Although it does speak a lot to the strength of the 3e ruleset I suppose.

In any case, I'm more than big enough (hey, stop with the fat jokes, I'm sensitive) to admit when I'm mistaken.
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At least until 5th... maybe.
And then you'll have the 4e-to-5e flamewar, polls about who is switching over, posts commenting about how the poll is meaningless, and how their vote isn't a choice. Then someone will mention Adolf Hitler and...

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No change; tried it, went back to a previous edition.

I don't really get the calls of ballot stuffing, as most of the comments on this thread have been the same as mine. Going by those comments, the poll has been somehow scewed in 4e's favor, if anything ;p
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Tried 4e for a few sessions, didn't like it- went back to 3.5.

Reading all the pro and con arguments in this thread- I have reached one firm conclusion: I like polls (not necessarily for their accuracy, clarity, or use- but I like clicking the vote button).
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