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Old 24th February 2009, 11:00 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Very true, I hope the tabletop turns out better than Fable , or at least provides more than a couple of hours of entertainment.
Thats the thing... So do I. And I think WoTC is in a tough spot right now.

I think if they release a sub par version of the table, they risk repeating the past... Which would in my opinion make a lot of people ignore the good parts of DDI out now, and ultimatly risk the whole thing being scrapped.

I currently really like the stuff they're offering right now. I would preffer they take their time on the table, and get it right, rather then put the current stuff at risk.

But they are in that damned if they do, damned if they don't spot right now.
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Old 24th February 2009, 11:28 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Thats the thing... So do I. And I think WoTC is in a tough spot right now.

I think if they release a sub par version of the table, they risk repeating the past... Which would in my opinion make a lot of people ignore the good parts of DDI out now, and ultimatly risk the whole thing being scrapped.

I currently really like the stuff they're offering right now. I would preffer they take their time on the table, and get it right, rather then put the current stuff at risk.

But they are in that damned if they do, damned if they don't spot right now.
The biggest mistake WotC made and that they just cannot undo is that they believed they could pull all the "big" products - Gleemax, Game Table, Visualizer, Builder and Compendium off around the time of the release of 4E.

Looking at this list of apps, I have no idea who told them that this could even be possible with a company of their size or whether they just ignored any evidence to the contrary.

They expected too much, and they promised to much in their marketing. But they didn't sell us stuff they didn't have. I think this distinction is important. It's probably not enough to alleviate all doubts that they will eventually release all apps they promised, but it should be taken into consideration when discussing their goodwill.

Personally, I don't thing the GameTable is off. But I don't believe in a release this year, while I was still hopeful last year it could be done around the middle or end.
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Old 25th February 2009, 01:18 AM   #123 (permalink)
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Well they drew people's attention with the marketing. For them better that they have done it than if they had not.
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Old 25th February 2009, 03:22 AM   #124 (permalink)
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Good companies push back releases if there's problems.

Bad companies go ahead and release software with problems because they don't want to push back the release date.
And then there's WotC, who pushes back releases if there are problems and then releases them later with problems anyways.
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Old 25th February 2009, 07:15 AM   #125 (permalink)
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The biggest mistake WotC made and that they just cannot undo is that they believed they could pull all the "big" products - Gleemax, Game Table, Visualizer, Builder and Compendium off around the time of the release of 4E.

Looking at this list of apps, I have no idea who told them that this could even be possible with a company of their size or whether they just ignored any evidence to the contrary.

They expected too much, and they promised to much in their marketing. But they didn't sell us stuff they didn't have. I think this distinction is important. It's probably not enough to alleviate all doubts that they will eventually release all apps they promised, but it should be taken into consideration when discussing their goodwill.

Personally, I don't thing the GameTable is off. But I don't believe in a release this year, while I was still hopeful last year it could be done around the middle or end.
I blame the marketing staff. IME, no matter how many times you tell them it's just *not possible* to have [insert-new-product-here] ready in [insert-stupid-deadline-here], they'll just ignore you, and go ahead with the unrealizable proposed date.

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Old 25th February 2009, 08:42 PM   #126 (permalink)
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I blame the marketing staff. IME, no matter how many times you tell them it's just *not possible* to have [insert-new-product-here] ready in [insert-stupid-deadline-here], they'll just ignore you, and go ahead with the unrealizable proposed date.

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Do you have any evidence that the WotC marketing staff is to blame, or are you just basing this conclusion on your personal experiences?
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Old 25th February 2009, 09:09 PM   #127 (permalink)
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One thing is for sure WOTC will not be getting any of my money until the virtual game table is up and running.
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