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Old 22nd January 2009, 10:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Whither Necromancer Games?

I've been away for a while, and now that I'm back, I'm having a hard time finding any information here (or on the always-up-to-date Necromancer Games site) on what's going on with Necromancer Games.

Will the Pathfinder Tome of Horrors still be coming out this summer? What of their 4E monster book?
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Old 22nd January 2009, 10:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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They are still waiting for the revised GSL to come out before announcing products & plans.
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Old 22nd January 2009, 10:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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They are still waiting for the revised GSL to come out before announcing products & plans.
So nothing until 5E.

No Pathfinder stuff either, though?
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Old 22nd January 2009, 10:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Dead and gone, until at least the revised GSL comes out.

I suspect that they might look at Pathfinder if the revised GSL hasn't come out by August of this year, but Clark has been extremely vague on that, so it's only wild speculation.
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Dead and gone, until at least the revised GSL comes out.
Which might be never.
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Old 22nd January 2009, 10:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Dead and gone, until at least the revised GSL comes out.

I suspect that they might look at Pathfinder if the revised GSL hasn't come out by August of this year, but Clark has been extremely vague on that, so it's only wild speculation.
I think it is more likely the next couple of months until a decision. With the lead times for publication if a publisher wants something by Gen Con they need to make a call shortly.
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Goodman Games and to a lesser extent Troll Lord kind of stole their thunder about three years ago. And they haven't exactly been fighting to get it back.
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Old 22nd January 2009, 11:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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It seems to me like they were one of the victims of the GSL. This is unfortunate, because I liked their adventure style quite a lot. Their association with Paizo may result in some products seeing the light of day, but if they're not moving to 4E, they won't be of too much use to me. And that's unfortunate, but whacha' gonna' do?

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No Pathfinder stuff either, though?
I believe that they are going to wait for the final product and a license from Paizo before deciding on product support for Pathfinder.
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It seems to me like they were one of the victims of the GSL. This is unfortunate, because I liked their adventure style quite a lot. Their association with Paizo may result in some products seeing the light of day, but if they're not moving to 4E, they won't be of too much use to me. And that's unfortunate, but whacha' gonna' do?

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I still have faith in Clark! We just need a decent GSL.

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Clark is still gung-ho about 4E, so, unfortunately, you'll be satisfied.
But he's also still a lawyer, so to paraphrase Roger Moore as James Bond, "that's the GSL: you don't have it, but I don't either."

To be serious: I think that if they are able to get publishing again, under the Paizo umbrella, that both of us will likely end up getting the products we want. It's just a question of the license being something that they can work with, and it seems like that won't be happening any time soon.
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To be serious: I think that if they are able to get publishing again, under the Paizo umbrella, that both of us will likely end up getting the products we want.
I agree. And actually, as Jack99 (and others) pointed out elsewhere, there is so much for 3.5 already that 4E needs help from companies like Necromancer more than 3.5/Pathfinder does.

Since it looks like Necromancer will not be publishing any more Judges Guild stuff, the only thing left I really want for 3.5/Pathfinder from Necro is the Slumbering Tsar series. (Though I will happily buy anything else they decide to make for Pathfinder.)
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I've been away for a while, and now that I'm back, I'm having a hard time finding any information here (or on the always-up-to-date Necromancer Games site) on what's going on with Necromancer Games.

Will the Pathfinder Tome of Horrors still be coming out this summer? What of their 4E monster book?
I was looking forward to his idea of making 4E more like 1E from some blurb I read months ago. I interpreted that as Necromancer Games Unearthed Arcana, but not really sure.
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It's a shame to me. Clark's obvious joy for the system was a rallying call. But now Necro has fallen to the wayside, waiting for other publishers to give the green light before they proceed.

Necro was best when it was active, not reactive. While I understand and respect the rational, I miss the old thunder.
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It's a bit hard to be active, rather than reactive under the current legal requirements put out by WotC. I think waiting for them to come out with the revised GSL is all Necro can responsibly do. It sucks, but that's the situation they're in.

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It's a bit hard to be active, rather than reactive under the current legal requirements put out by WotC. I think waiting for them to come out with the revised GSL is all Necro can responsibly do. It sucks, but that's the situation they're in.

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No. They could have done what Goodman has been doing, but Clark chose not to. I don't understand why, but Clark made the choice he did. Besides, I think Bill and Clark have been enjoying their extra time they don't have to spend getting together yet another adventure.
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I agree. And actually, as Jack99 (and others) pointed out elsewhere, there is so much for 3.5 already that 4E needs help from companies like Necromancer more than 3.5/Pathfinder does.
Well...............thats how gamers see it. Perhaps Wotc doesn't want any help. Its a possibility.

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It's a bit hard to be active, rather than reactive under the current legal requirements put out by WotC. I think waiting for them to come out with the revised GSL is all Necro can responsibly do. It sucks, but that's the situation they're in.

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Clark wanted to operate under a license, and had faith in WoTC, but unfortunately it didn't work out. Any lawyer can see that signing up to the GSL is a Very Bad Idea. And Clark is committed to not doing anything that might annoy WoTC like not using a license, or using the OGL to make 4e compatible material. So no more Necromancer.
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