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Old 13th February 2009, 12:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Why Did No One Tell me? Ultimate Toolbox!

Has anyone been talking about this? Seems almost like a stelath release. Bad AEG, no cookie for you!

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Based on the award-winning RPG book Toolbox, the Ultimate Toolbox starts off where the original stopped. Focusing on inspiration, the Ultimate Toolbox is 400 pages of the best charts, tables, and seeds of gaming adventure. From character backgrounds and world building to pirate lore and magical portals, every page is the key to adventure.

Covering seven distinct and ever-important topics, the Ultimate Toolbox is a must for any GM. Whether your games take place in the city, dungeon, wilds, or even at sea, there's a chapter dedicated to it. Even PCs, NPCs, and magical creations get their fair share of attention, as well as advice and charts for building an adventure or campaign from scratch.

Begin your journey now.

This book can be used with any fantasy game system. There are no rules, no powers, no stats of any kind—merely page after page of charts, tables, advice and good solid gaming inspiration. With over 1,000 tables and a fully-loaded index, what else could you ever need?
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Old 13th February 2009, 01:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm right there with ya. I saw this on Paizo's site about two days ago........first I'd heard of it.

It's a must buy for me. The first one is one of my must have at the table DMing books!!
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Old 13th February 2009, 02:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Well, it has been being discussed in this thread for some time now, but it's visibility was quite low since it was moved from the General forum.

DM Jeff and Jim Pinto (two of the book's authors) have been posting lots of unique and crazy tables there, along with previews from Ultimate Toolbox.
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Old 13th February 2009, 03:00 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Well now I don't feel bad. It's a forked thread from 3.5 discounts.

But it's a damn shame so many people probably haven't got the hype about this.
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Old 13th February 2009, 03:11 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Hype is short for "hyperbole". We don't need hype.
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I like releases like this. I wonder if there will be a PDF done? And when will the whole thing be converted to Tablesmith? Ha!
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Old 13th February 2009, 03:36 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Hype is short for "hyperbole". We don't need hype.
Yeah I'll agree but come on man, this is the Ultimate Toolbox. It's made of win.
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Hype, no hype, whatever. I'm buying one.
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Old 13th February 2009, 05:15 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I like releases like this. I wonder if there will be a PDF done? And when will the whole thing be converted to Tablesmith? Ha!

PDF? Yes, but sometime down the road, no idea how long.

Tablesmith? No idea.
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The best part for me is that it got rid of the stats, which was quite irritating if you wanted to use the book with other systems.
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Seems almost like a stealth release.
AEG kept a pretty tight lid on this until just a few weeks ago.

My guess is they didn't want to get anyone's hopes up until they were really, really sure it would be out on time.

Looks like it's going to be a pretty sweet book!
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I like 3E, so which one whould i get, this or the old 3E one? What are the main differences ? How detailed are the 3E stats? Does Ultimate Toolbox have more content?

PS: Please someone correct the typo in the thread title.

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The new one is non-system-specific. No 3E rules (or rules for any game, for that matter).
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Yeah i pretty much got that. But is it essentially the old one minus stats or are there new/better/more tables ? And if the latter what all is new ?
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I think the number of tables is about 2:1 or even 3:1, relative to the 3.0 book. But that other thread would be the place to look.

And it'll generally be a bigger book as well. But again, go to the sauce.

Emphasis on the '.0' bit, because while it does have stats (even stripped down monster statblocks), there are things like Wilderness Lore and Alchemy skills, Rangers with d10 HD, and so on.


edit --- now I took my own advice, 2:1 or 3:1 probably doesn't cut it.

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From the intro (mislinked on the AEG preview site; here's the file), it sounds like an excellent book, though perhaps less-GM focused than the earlier tome. Even so, it's clocking in at 400 pages, which makes it more-than-double the size of the first version of Toolbox.
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I just barely picked up Toolbox part 1. If Ultimate Toolbox is even a quarter of the cool I'll be picking it up as well.
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Bought it today.
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