Revised GSL TODAY!

JVisgaitis · 2nd March 2009, 09:55 PM

Just got an email from Scott Rouse. The revised GSL is going live today. There isn't anything else I'd want from this. It's perfect. Thanks to Scott for finally getting this to us. It is greatly appreciated.

FourthBear · 2nd March 2009, 11:09 PM

Thanks very much for the heads up! I put a link to this post on RPGnet, since I know that forum is also very interested in the GSL release.

DaveMage · 2nd March 2009, 11:12 PM

It's up.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/welcome

Moniker · 2nd March 2009, 11:23 PM

Sweet Baby Demogorgon! It looks great, thanks WotC!

Rechan · 2nd March 2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Moniker

Sweet Baby Demogorgon! It looks great, thanks WotC!

1) Baby Demogorgons aren't sweet.

2) Good god that image. Two haded tentacle monkey babies. WAUGH.

Rechan · 2nd March 2009, 11:33 PM

Morrus posted this in the "Any word on the GSL" thread. He said this was sent in a letter along with the GSL to Publishers:

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Publishing friends,

I just wanted to let you know that the revision of GSL that we announced back in August 2008 is going live today (it should go up around 4PM PST). I have posted a copy for your reference.

Also a revised SRD, logos, and updated FAQ are being posted to: http://www.wizards.com/d20

Highlights include:

Removal of section 6, which set terms & conditions for 4e compatible product lines that may have been previously published under the Open Game License (OGL).

Inclusion of a provision for a “Notice of Termination”, allowing publishers to end their use of the GSL at their choosing. This includes the addition of a 6-month inventory sell off period after executing a Notice of Termination.

Modification to imagery clause that clarifies use derivative art work.

Additions to the SRD from Player’s Handbook® 2, Monster Manual® 2, and Adventurer’s Vault™ including:
- Barbarian, bard, druid, and sorcerer class options
- Alchemy, alchemical formula template, and alchemical items
- Vehicles, mounts, and the vehicle template
- Disease template
- Demons, devils, rust monster, metallic dragons, duergar, and over 50 other monsters

I hope you find the revisions to your liking and I want to thank you for your patience as we revised the GSL.

Sincerely,

Scott Rouse
Sr. Brand Manager - Dungeons & Dragons
Wizards of the Coast LLC

Rechan · 2nd March 2009, 11:37 PM

So. Any publisher want to explain what the real changes are? Or rather, what changed that was objected to for the most part?

What stayed that people dislike?

Do the new changes help?

How do people feel about this all?

I just know many people were unhappy with the previous GSL and calling doom and gloom, so I want someone who groks all this to explain it in layman.

joethelawyer · 2nd March 2009, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveMage

It's up.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/welcome

anyone have the old one? i would like to do a word by word comparison.

Urizen · 2nd March 2009, 11:50 PM

I'm still reading through it, but, as far as I can tell, since the old section 6 is out, we can now support our titles in both OGL AND GSL, so long as we are very careful not to violate the existing GSL (which supercedes the ogl),

So, as an example, if I decided I wanted to convert my Touch of Evil Game line, or Blood Throne, to 4e (which I'm now seriously considering), I could do so, as long as I don't redefine any of the terms in the SRD. Additionally, I can keep selling Blood Throne as a true20 product.

I'm going to need to check with a lawyer on that, but I believe I'm reading it right.

If anyone else interprets it differently, please speak up.

Urizen · 2nd March 2009, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by joethelawyer

anyone have the old one? i would like to do a word by word comparison.

I do.

Mercutio01 · 3rd March 2009, 12:00 AM

I just read through it and came to the same conclusions as Urizen. It seems to bear out exactly what Scott sent to Morrus.

Twiggly the Gnome · 3rd March 2009, 12:01 AM

Glad to see Gnomes in the SRD.

To bad all the non-legacy PHII material is on the blacklist.

Scribble · 3rd March 2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Urizen

I'm still reading through it, but, as far as I can tell, since the old section 6 is out, we can now support our titles in both OGL AND GSL, so long as we are very careful not to violate the existing GSL (which supercedes the ogl),

So, as an example, if I decided I wanted to convert my Touch of Evil Game line, or Blood Throne, to 4e (which I'm now seriously considering), I could do so, as long as I don't redefine any of the terms in the SRD. Additionally, I can keep selling Blood Throne as a true20 product.

I'm going to need to check with a lawyer on that, but I believe I'm reading it right.

If anyone else interprets it differently, please speak up.

I think I do... I'm not a lawyer though.

relevant text from the FAQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSL FAQ

Q: Can I use the GSL and OGL in the same title?
A: There is no provision in the GSL preventing the of use the OGL but publishers must take care to not assume content in the OGL SRD is the same as like-named content in the GSL SRD. For example, using the definition of “Cleric” from the OGL SRD in a product licensed under the GSL would violate the GSL. GSL definitions and provisions supersede like terms and provisions of the OGL (for example, GSL restrictions on explaining the process of assigning ability scores with respect to Character Creation)

Which seems to indicate you can have stuff using both the OGL, and GSL at the same time, but you have to make sure you follow the GSL rules first.

IE if you use something that's defined in the GSL, you can't choose to use how it's defined in the OGL instead. You have to go with the GSL version.

justanobody · 3rd March 2009, 12:06 AM

I have the old one, but no way to distribute it, and the SRD file fails to load. SO... they are using some kind of graphics or something that fails to work right it seems rather than just a single image layer and text. or the file just refuses to download.

Anyone think they will make a text version for people since WotC has so many problems making PDFs that work?

Urizen · 3rd March 2009, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Scribble

IE if you use something that's defined in the GSL, you can't choose to use how it's defined in the OGL instead. You have to go with the GSL version.

Yeah that would make sense.

Any conversions can't define or redefine any existing terms in the GSL SRD.