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Old 29th April 2009, 03:49 AM   #16 (permalink)
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After the whole pdf thing, I think this is a very smart and classy move. They needed to do something like this to show some goodwill towards their customers. This was a very good way to do that. Will it be enough to bring some people back? I don't really know. I do know it's not enough for me, but it is a move in the right direction. I also think it's a brilliant way to bring even more new players into the game. The page with the downloads was very effectively made with links to the core books. And the character builder teaser is a nice touch also.

Good job, WotC.
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Old 29th April 2009, 03:57 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Sweet! An update to the one published 4e adventure I've bought!

It fixes a lot of the problems with it, I think. Also, it's GREAT to be able to just send my friends a link to the quick start rules
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Old 29th April 2009, 04:10 AM   #18 (permalink)
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It is nice to have the quick start rules so easily accessible.

Can anybody at WotC say anything about an FLGS burning them to CD or something and handing them out?
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For people who want the posters: IIRC, most if not all of the poster maps in KotS were from the fantastic locations line. This could allow someone to buy the poster maps without having to buy an adventure they already have.
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So WotC still thinks that a L+5 encounter is appropriate for the 3rd encounter that a new player is going to experience? Um? It looks like it WAS made a little easier, but it's still L+5...
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I have to admit, this is a really cool thing for WotC to do for 4e fans. Now excuse me while I convert this module to 3.5 for my own purposes.
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While this is really nice for the players, what does this mean for any FLGS that have copies sitting on the shelf?
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Looks like the final battle has been improved. Also, mshea has some nice KOTS advice on his website.
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So WotC still thinks that a L+5 encounter is appropriate for the 3rd encounter that a new player is going to experience? Um? It looks like it WAS made a little easier, but it's still L+5...
It's doable, but tough.

It's also fairly optional, when it comes down to it. You can finish the entire adventure without facing Irontooth. Better yet, you can come back to him when you hit 2nd or 3rd level and have a much easier time of things.

Personally, love it. I think it feels like a throwback to those wonderful killer encounters in 1e - a fairly unbalanced, high-risk, high-reward optional side-quest. Like, say, following that secret passage under the tower in ToEE...

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It is nice to have the quick start rules so easily accessible.

Can anybody at WotC say anything about an FLGS burning them to CD or something and handing them out?
It may be a free download at wizards.com, but it's still copyrighted. My guess would be "no".
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While this is really nice for the players, what does this mean for any FLGS that have copies sitting on the shelf?
Hard to say. Some free PDFs have led to higher hard copy sales for various RPG publishers . . . but I don't think a massive study has been done on the subject (at least not one that's been made public).

This module's been in the retail chain long enough I doubt it will seriously impact retail sales. Now, if they released a free download for "E1: Death's Reach" (released this month) . . . I'd be more curious what kind of impact that would have!
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It's funny that so many people say that KotS isn't such a great adventure. Yet I have stolen a lot from it. A part of my base plot in the online campaign uses material from KotS - it provides me with a nice starting city and a few NPC to run around. Of course I removed most of the plot line (the Keep is still intact, protected by Nerathi Guardians and much more changes).

The fact that they updated the adventure is neat, especially considering it is free.
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Area 8 (Sir Keegan's Tomb) - Keegan's stats have been reworked, and a proper skill challenge has been added.
Too bad the skill challenge can't decide whether four or six successes are required. I'm personally inclined to go with six successes myself.
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Lowering the barriers of entry for people to get a look at what it's all about is definitely a good move. Thumbs up to WotC on this one.
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