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Old 5th June 2009, 04:45 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Seems all powers that were ranged before (weaponwise anyway) have been changed to melee or ranged. So yes, you can make a cool melee artificer.

I do not see anything about artificers and alchemy, but they could just take the feat if they want even more stuff to make. Which they need in order to take the PP (unless they want to give up ritual casting, ofc).

I didn't see anything mentioned about mage-bred animals, and there are no new mounts. No new uses for skills that I saw either.
So maybe the mounts and mage-bred animals will be in a future AV or the 4E ECS. I know the Valenar in 3.x prided themselves on their mage-bred horses. I was hoping they would say something about those along with the dragonhawks of Aundair and mage-bred bears of Breland.
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What's the implements for an artificer? Is there any changes, did they change those powers that had both implement and weapon as a keyword?

Does the "supporting characters" section for Kobolds describe the different tribes in Q'barra and elsewhere being connected to the dragons Eberron, Khyber and Syberis?
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Old 5th June 2009, 05:11 PM   #123 (permalink)
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Back on topic, can we hear a bit more about E2? Perhaps just the names of New monsters / magic items therein.
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Covenant Cultist – 21 minion brute
Sewer Revenant – 24 minion brute (nasty minion that has an aura that does 10 damage
Doomguard Mercs – 24 minion brute (extra damage on crits these ones)
Decaying Mummies – 23 minion brute (aura that weakens and does damage)
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Fleshglutton Bileguard – 24 soldier (fairly standard soldier, with a small surprise)
Fleshglutton Corpse Eater – 24 brute (yeah, I am in love – my players will hate this monster)
Fleshglutton Favored One – 25 controller (could be nasty, might be a tad boring)
Ghoul Stalker - 25 skirmisher (Don’t get immobilized by these guys. Or stunned. 4d8+18+3d6 is nasty when there can easily be more than one next to you)
Ghoul Gatherer – 25 controller (aura’s can just be nasty)
Ghoul Warrior – 24 soldier (zzzz)
Black Bloodspawn Hunter – 25 skirmisher (really cool too – beware the tongue!)
Black Bloodspawn Devourers – 25 brute (same tricks as the one above more or less – a pity)
Black Bloodspawn Bone Collector – 25 elite brute (better have a lot of range damage or its going to be one short day)
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Old 5th June 2009, 05:15 PM   #124 (permalink)
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What's the implements for an artificer? Is there any changes, did they change those powers that had both implement and weapon as a keyword?
Rod, staff and wands. I can't seem to find a power that has both implement and weapon as keyword.

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No. Might be in the campaign guide though.
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So maybe the mounts and mage-bred animals will be in a future AV or the 4E ECS. I know the Valenar in 3.x prided themselves on their mage-bred horses. I was hoping they would say something about those along with the dragonhawks of Aundair and mage-bred bears of Breland.
They do actually mention the warhorses in the last chapter. No stats or anything though.
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Problem is that in the end rare becomes rather common. Still Eberron probably does have a good way of limiting dragonmarks regardless of what your players want; the simple fact that the dragonmarked houses are the greatest political entities in Khorvaire and they are not above assassination when it comes to retaining the purity of their bloodlines and the absolute control of their dragonmarks for instance.
Correct. Mechanically, there are no restrictions. But both the EPG and ECG note that the marks are tied to specific races and families. The ECG highlights that a PC who develops an out of house mark might be the first member of his race in history to do so, and that the houses could very well decide that extermination is the proper response. So MECHANICALLY marks are available to everyone. But if your campaign is set in Eberron, it's something a player will want to discuss with the DM. It's something that CAN create many interesting stories, if it's what the PC and DM want - but it's certainly within the DM's rights to hold people to the houses (whether with an iron hand or with the "Do what you want, but remember what happened to the Line of Vol... do you really want your entire family to be targeted for extermination to prevent your unnatural mark from spreading?" approach).

I'm not in a position to say more, and now that I'm on the road I won't have time to anyways. But you've got the mechanics of the marks, and you've got their role in the setting - and if you're playing in Eberron, both are equally important.
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Old 5th June 2009, 07:09 PM   #127 (permalink)
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I'm running out of questions for the player's guide (everything else will have to wait until the ECG) so here's my last one. Can you describe in general terms what the artificer feats do and what the multi-class artificer feat gives you.

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I'm running out of questions for the player's guide (everything else will have to wait until the ECG) so here's my last one. Can you describe in general terms what the artificer feats do and what the multi-class artificer feat gives you.
While you're at it, could you describe the Changeling racial feats?

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Old 6th June 2009, 07:23 PM   #130 (permalink)
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Regarding "Anyone can have a Dragonmark!":

Since even Hellcow seems to be talking around the point a bit, I'd like to point out the following line from the Eberron Campaign Guide posted yesterday on WotC's site:

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Dragonmarks that appear outside these bloodlines are called aberrant marks, whether they're recognized marks appearing on people not connected to the mark's normal bloodline, or unusual marks beyond the recognized twelve.
So yes, your Warforged character can carry the Mark of Making. You now officially have an aberrant Dragonmark. And all that that implies (see: War of the Mark).

Since this was the spin I was already planning to use in my Eberron campaign if the subject came up, I'm very pleased to see that it is in fact the official line in the setting guide.
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Are their magic items that are specific to Artificers or to Dragonmarks?
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Old 7th June 2009, 11:22 AM   #132 (permalink)
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3.5 Artificers has something similar to a familar but it was a construct (it looked mechanical in the pictures I remember), i was asking if there was something similar to them in the book
For a 4th ed version you can take the Familiar feat from Arcane Power and select a familiar from a Dragon article including. I don't know which source these familiars are from, but there are:
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I'm wondering something about E2.

SPOILERS FOR THE ADVENTURES AHEAD!


Ahem... anyway, in P2 they introduced a powerful artifact that the PCs are assumed to grab, and they state that it will have an important role to play in the rest of the campaign.
In P3 and E1 there is not a single mention of it or even the tiniest hint. I was sorely disappointed - I mean, surely when they meet the Raven Queen she should recognize the thing and at least make some comment about it.
So... does Nightbringer get a speaking part in E2? Or at least some mention of the fact that its final power is kind of useful if the party wants to storm Orcus' realm?
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I'm wondering something about E2.

SPOILERS FOR THE ADVENTURES AHEAD!


Ahem... anyway, in P2 they introduced a powerful artifact that the PCs are assumed to grab, and they state that it will have an important role to play in the rest of the campaign.
In P3 and E1 there is not a single mention of it or even the tiniest hint. I was sorely disappointed - I mean, surely when they meet the Raven Queen she should recognize the thing and at least make some comment about it.
So... does Nightbringer get a speaking part in E2? Or at least some mention of the fact that its final power is kind of useful if the party wants to storm Orcus' realm?
Its mentioned - Depending on how the end of P2 is handled, it will resurface and as either an ally or an enemy. If as an enemy, it will turn an other decent n+1 encounter into an n+3 going on n+4 encounter. This one might be a killer unless the players just rested.
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How would you rate the artwork? Does it do a good job of capturing the noir, pulp, cyberpunk, lost-world, fantasy feel that the setting is supposed to convey?
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How would you rate the artwork? Does it do a good job of capturing the noir, pulp, cyberpunk, lost-world, fantasy feel that the setting is supposed to convey?
I would rather not. Art is very subjective, and whether a certain piece of art evokes a certain feeling that you know it's supposed to evoke.. Well that's kind of tricky. Let's just say that I really like the full-page art pieces in the book, and that they do the trick for me. The rest (all the smaller pictures are pretty much standard WotC stuff, with some crap and some gems in between.

But as reference, I was never hard to please, art-wise.
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Its mentioned - Depending on how the end of P2 is handled, it will resurface and as either an ally or an enemy. If as an enemy, it will turn an other decent n+1 encounter into an n+3 going on n+4 encounter. This one might be a killer unless the players just rested.
Heh, my players are pretty well minimaxed and I need lvl+3 encounters if I want them to even break a sweat.

Anyway, I expect one of them to pick up Nightbringer next session, and by the time they get to E2 his concordance should be maxed out.
(N.B. that +1d10 per level is quite fast progress if you expect a player to hang on to an item for any length of time. I'll probably just fudge that the attitude improves after each full adventure as long as the wielder hasn't been doing anything really contrary.)
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Regarding "Anyone can have a Dragonmark!":

Since even Hellcow seems to be talking around the point a bit, I'd like to point out the following line from the Eberron Campaign Guide
I noticed this. I think it's a great solution to the problem. Sure any PC can mechanically benefit from a dragonmark, regardless of race, but that Mark of Storm on a warforged isn't going to be an actual Mark of Storm, it's going to be an aberrant mark... brilliant!
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Since this was the spin I was already planning to use in my Eberron campaign if the subject came up, I'm very pleased to see that it is in fact the official line in the setting guide.
And as the player that is making this come up in said campaign: Uh oh. By which I mean "yay!" ... but uh oh.

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Which of the new rituals presented in the EPG carry House mark pre-reqs? Is Secure Shelter a Ghallanda-only thing?
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I just pre-ordered the Eberron Player's Guide, and it's all your fault Jack!

The funny thing was, I wasn't even really planning on getting the Eberron books at all.
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