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Old 29th August 2009, 02:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Which settings (any game, any edition) have the best maps?

In your opinion, which settings have the best maps? Links to on-line or fan-created ones are welcome, too!

On a scale of 1-10, with 1 being the barest scribbled map on a sheet of paper to 10 being a map that looks like a NASA sattelite image, where would you place your preference for fantasy maps?
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Old 29th August 2009, 02:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Despite the beautiful full-color maps that are out there, I always keep coming back to the Judge's Guild maps from the AD&D era. Those sepia-toned maps were nicely detailed and HUGE. And the fact that they were sepia-tone made them look like something the PCs might actually have, which aided in immersion.
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HarnWorld has the best maps I've ever seen for an RPG setting, bar none. I'd say that the world/continent maps rate a perfect 10 and the localized maps (of cities and such) rate about 7.
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I have this sweet cloth map that came with the 2e dark suns boxed set.
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Some of my favorites:

The old Judges Guild Wilderlands of High Fantasy maps
The World of Greyhawk map by Darlene
The I.C.E. Middle Earth maps
The maps Robert Conley has been doing (e.g. Points of Light)
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Second the Harnworld maps, they were great.

It's a bit off topic, but I loved the cloth world maps from Ultima III and V.
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I'll go with Forgotten Realms.

Especially since I have the Forgotten Realms Interactive Atlas.
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Golarion. The world map in 4E ECG also looks very good, but Paizo's APs have consistently had top-notch maps.

The worst maps I can recall were in 4E FRCG.
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My faves have already been noted.

The Dark Sun cloth map.
Hârnworld's every map.

I'm partial to Mystara's sticking with hex maps eternally. Something very pleasingly nostalgic about it.

Tangent: If I may offer a point about a trend in maps for settings I think is producing awful results. There are more and more maps that are done with computers that have been adding a 3d aspect to the maps. Unfortunately, the end result has created the uncanny valley of cartography. It tries to look realistic, comes close, but ends up looking far worse than had they just drawn it out with a pen and paper. The 4e Eberron poster map has this uncanny valley cartography. The closer it begins to look like an attempt at satellite/aerial photos, the more we expect things to really look like how a satellite/aerial photo should look.

Please, please, please. Fantasy cartographers of the world, resist the urge to CGI-up your drawings to feel like a satellite (hint: satellite photos of mountain terrain may look like random lumps to you, but they aren't, and your map's mountains shouldn't look like randomized pattern of bumps) if you can't do it right.

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I had forgotten the cloth maps that came with some of the old computer RPGs.

Alas, I gave mine away with the games they were boxed with when I got rid of the computer upon which they were played.

They sure were good, though.
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Harnworld +1

Also, i always liked the Birthright maps, they are cool...

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HarnWorld has the best maps I've ever seen for an RPG setting, bar none. I'd say that the world/continent maps rate a perfect 10 and the localized maps (of cities and such) rate about 7.
Do you have a link to a sample?
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Do you have a link to a sample?
Here's the best I can do. Since the map itself is a product, it's hard to find images of the entire thing. I suspect that the publisher (wisely) does their best to keep those offline.
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Here's the best I can do. Since the map itself is a product, it's hard to find images of the entire thing. I suspect that the publisher (wisely) does their best to keep those offline.
That's good enough, thanks. I just wanted to get a feel of it.

It kinda reminds me of the World of Greyhawk map from the 83 boxed set.
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Ahh, maps. Love 'em. Some stuff that comes to mind:

*As mentioned, Harnworld. I have an image of Venarive, North-western Lythia, which is just gorgeous. Don't know where I got it, though.

*The 4E Eberron map is gorgeous, one of my favorite computer-generated ones (I tend to prefer the more naturalistic look of hand-drawn).

*The 3E Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting world map is nice, if not great. But it is the best Faerun map I've seen.

*The Known Lands of Artesia. Good hand-drawn stuff. Cartoony in a good way.

*Cyradon has a pretty nice map.

*Keith Curtis does some nice work.

*Someone has posted really great computer-drawn maps of Greyhawk on this site in the cartography forum. They really are the best I've seen of their ilk, but be warned: the downloaded PDF is very cumbersome to use! I also like the Greyhawk maps from the 1E set.

*Finally, there have been lots of nice maps of Middle-earth. My favorites are here and here, probably the most beautiful pencil-drawn maps I've seen.
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That's good enough, thanks. I just wanted to get a feel of it.
Similar, yes, but the map of Harn is much more detailed.
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Mark Smylie's Artesia, the Known World has some of the most visually stunning maps I've seen.
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Columbia Games produces in Hârn a splendid combination of detailed cartography and game-utility (with, e.g., hex grids). The old ICE Midle-Earth maps also stand out in memory.

Tolkien's own maps, though, seem to me more evocative. I got a similar sense from the maps William Church drew, for the second edition of RuneQuest, of Dragon Pass and Prax. I know of only the latter online:

http://www.glorantha.com/new/images/prax_rq2.jpg
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Examples of the Hârn-style of maps can be found here.
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It's a toss-up between Harn and Birthright. Harn is beautifully detailed but Birthright might be more useful.
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