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View Poll Results: Which 4E class do you want to vote off the list?
when you sit down and think... hmmm what class would be fun and exciting to play, does the fighter come into your head? Really? If not, why is it so untouchable?
C'mon, let's not less the most boring class win just because its a classic.
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when you sit down and think... hmmm what class would be fun and exciting to play, does the fighter come into your head? Really? If not, why is it so untouchable?
C'mon, let's not less the most boring class win just because its a classic.
4E fighters are exciting and fun. I know, I've played them and like them better than any other class - and I say this as a former diehard caster player. This is not your grandfather's meat shield.
Rangers, on the other hand, are boring as all get-out, and I intend to go after them just as soon as we
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I myself have never really looked into the druid. Too many other classes to try out. But ...
Our party has reached 24th level and the players are already thinking about their next characters. (Or a new party to do some low level stuff now and then.) The wizard decided to take a look at the druid, and he was not impressed.
The control aspects seemed to him weaker than a wizard. Plus he was not keen on figuring out how to plunge into melee as a beast and then cast ranged spells at the same time while provoking opportunity attacks.
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when you sit down and think... hmmm what class would be fun and exciting to play, does the fighter come into your head? Really? If not, why is it so untouchable?
C'mon, let's not less the most boring class win just because its a classic.
I mostly just have a beef with fighters and other martial classes having encounter and daily powers. Also, the fact that fighters have OAs and Combat Challenges, and they aren't the same thing, I find frustrating.
I mean, I'm frustrated by the rogue "light blade, crossbow, sling" thing more, but all in all I find rogues more interesting than fighters. All the other classes left on this list I actually kinda like, but fighters do not excite me.
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URGH. You guys! Why are you squabbling over the Avenger and Druid? THE RANGER HAS TO DIE. Yes, I've finally given in to these threads and am now posting with Dire Caps Lock™.
HE'S BORING. GO AWAY. PLAY A SEEKER OR BARBARIAN OR TEMPEST FIGHTER.
Plus he was not keen on figuring out how to plunge into melee as a beast and then cast ranged spells at the same time while provoking opportunity attacks.
Here, at least, WotC throws you a bone: when you shift out of beast form, you may also shift one square.
As for control, my game's druid does fine, although he intends to avail himself of Primal Power at the earliest opportunity. He loves using Grasping Tide to restrict movement and Swarming Locusts to grant allies CA.
I voted for Ranger, because of the homogeneity. Very sad, since two of my favorite classes are front-runners to die.
My goodness there are some backward people voting on this poll! Why can't you all see that the caffeine free, sugar free, 99% fun free diet lite wizard deserves the boot? Sheesh
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Unfortnately, don't have much against Avenger, even though I've always liked Druids. Since they're both going next one way or the other, I figure I'll start plugging away at Wizard now for failing to actually do battlefield control. And then...the arduous task of killing the fighter...
It'd be a shame if Ranger goes soon. Them and Rogues are probably the two best classes, but seems to be a lot of ranger-hate.
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Unfortnately, don't have much against Avenger, even though I've always liked Druids. Since they're both going next one way or the other, I figure I'll start plugging away at Wizard now for failing to actually do battlefield control. And then...the arduous task of killing the fighter...
You haven't played a wizard have you? He owns the battlefield - when he uses dailies anyway....
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It'd be a shame if Ranger goes soon. Them and Rogues are probably the two best classes, but seems to be a lot of ranger-hate.
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You haven't played a wizard have you? He owns the battlefield - when he uses dailies anyway....
Boo hoo you. The wizard's a pale diet lite imitation of what he once was an ya know it! Stop trying to be like... rational or something.
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Boo hoo you. The wizard's a pale diet lite imitation of what he once was an ya know it!
Well, yes. Considering that he was previously an unholy beast who bestrode the game like a colossus, trampling fighters and rogues beneath his curly-toed slippers...
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Well, yes. Considering that he was previously an unholy beast who bestrode the game like a colossus, trampling fighters and rogues beneath his curly-toed slippers...
I don't expect him to be broken or good at everything. But if you choose to be a battlefield control wizard, take the orb implement, and all the appropriate powers, I'd expect him to be at least almost as good as a previous edition wizard who just learned a bunch of BC spells on the side... Granted, I didn't see any of the splat books, but with the core powers, Wizard is far more "area damage" focused than controlling.
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