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Old 4th November 2009, 01:44 AM   #101 (permalink)
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Derren like a couple others carry an edition war banner and fly it high with every post. I consider that dismissive in an ongoing fashion.
Even his sig is baiting.
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Old 5th November 2009, 07:15 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Even his sig is baiting.
If you consider stating ones opinion that 4E is not the best game ever and actually has flaws baiting then yes, it is.
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4E, the game where you play HSMFOS

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Only good, or at least unaligned adventurers are supported and no monster you can fight is good aligned.

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The PCs become masters in any skill automatically and it is impossible for them to be bad at a mundane task

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Compared to NPCs of the same strength, PCs poses a ungodly amount of HP and can withstand huge mountains of punishment. That or they can spontaneously regenerate wounds.

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Yet despite no matter how powerful the PCs become, they can never do anything special what the "natives" (=NPCs) can do like animating a skeleton.

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Old 5th November 2009, 07:30 PM   #103 (permalink)
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If you consider stating ones opinion that 4E is not the best game ever and actually has flaws baiting then yes, it is.
That's not what's in your sig, though.

If you had actually said something along the lines of, "In my opinion, 4E actually has flaws and is not the best game ever." I doubt that anyone would have a problem with it.
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Old 5th November 2009, 07:38 PM   #104 (permalink)
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That's not what's in your sig, though.

If you had actually said something along the lines of, "In my opinion, 4E actually has flaws and is not the best game ever." I doubt that anyone would have a problem with it.
I expect people to know that what I say is my opinion, especially concerning such subjective topics like RPG games.
But considering how often people seem to not know this, I guess I should add it to my sig.....


In my sig I highlight the flaws I think 4E has, not more, not less.
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Everything about RPGs is subjective, so everything I say about them is I my opinion and not hard facts

Having a backstory is good. Using this backstory in game is better. And for that you need background skills.

4E, the game where you play HSMFOS

Heroic
Only good, or at least unaligned adventurers are supported and no monster you can fight is good aligned.

Super-
The PCs become masters in any skill automatically and it is impossible for them to be bad at a mundane task

Mutants
Compared to NPCs of the same strength, PCs poses a ungodly amount of HP and can withstand huge mountains of punishment. That or they can spontaneously regenerate wounds.

From Outer Space
Yet despite no matter how powerful the PCs become, they can never do anything special what the "natives" (=NPCs) can do like animating a skeleton.
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Old 5th November 2009, 08:33 PM   #105 (permalink)
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I expect people to know that what I say is my opinion, especially concerning such subjective topics like RPG games.
But considering how often people seem to not know this, I guess I should add it to my sig.....

In my sig I highlight the flaws I think 4E has, not more, not less.
I'm not a moderator, so just consider this to be unsolicited advice:

Even though what you are expressing is an opinion, the way that you choose to express it, for example, by using derisive language or words with negative connotations, can give others the impression that you want to offend those who do not share your opinion. If you truly do not want to give offense, perhaps you should consider re-expressing your views more neutrally.
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Old 7th November 2009, 04:15 AM   #106 (permalink)
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Stop feeding the trolls!

Lets get back to the discussion!

Can someone tells us more about the subdual mechanics? I vaguely remember them being in the old Forgotten Realms grey box, where it stated that some dragons could be persuaded to have a "duel" to a certain percentage of its total hp
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Stop feeding the trolls!

Lets get back to the discussion!

Can someone tells us more about the subdual mechanics? I vaguely remember them being in the old Forgotten Realms grey box, where it stated that some dragons could be persuaded to have a "duel" to a certain percentage of its total hp
Dungeons & Dragons Roleplaying Game Official Home Page - Article (Excerpts: Draconomicon: Metallic Dragons: Draconic Encounters)
It's not a mechanic but a agreement between the PCs and the dragon to stop fighting when bloodied. And the dragon is not forced to accept it.
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Everything about RPGs is subjective, so everything I say about them is I my opinion and not hard facts

Having a backstory is good. Using this backstory in game is better. And for that you need background skills.

4E, the game where you play HSMFOS

Heroic
Only good, or at least unaligned adventurers are supported and no monster you can fight is good aligned.

Super-
The PCs become masters in any skill automatically and it is impossible for them to be bad at a mundane task

Mutants
Compared to NPCs of the same strength, PCs poses a ungodly amount of HP and can withstand huge mountains of punishment. That or they can spontaneously regenerate wounds.

From Outer Space
Yet despite no matter how powerful the PCs become, they can never do anything special what the "natives" (=NPCs) can do like animating a skeleton.
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Old 7th November 2009, 04:41 PM   #108 (permalink)
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Dungeons & Dragons Roleplaying Game Official Home Page - Article (Excerpts: Draconomicon: Metallic Dragons: Draconic Encounters)
It's not a mechanic but a agreement between the PCs and the dragon to stop fighting when bloodied. And the dragon is not forced to accept it.
Ok, pretty much like in Forgotten Realms 1st edition, then
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Old 17th November 2009, 09:44 AM   #109 (permalink)
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Basically, orichalcum was a real-world mythological term, which is cool. But it was too difficult to pronounce given the relatively small number of people who've heard of it. )
Heh, wow. You guys really don't think much of your readers, do you?

And the minds of thousands of bright ten-year-olds with access to Wikipedia suddenly cried out from being condescended to.

I remember being in elementary school, discovering obscure D&D terms had myths in real-world history and legend. It was a neat feeling.
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