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Old 9th November 2009, 02:05 PM   #31 (permalink)
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By the way, it might be easier to make this list with Echohawk's Complete D&D Monster Index. Edit: I can't believe Echohawk didn't plug this already!
That's what I was consulting before I made my posts here.
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Are you sure dire corby doesn't appear in 2e somewhere?

The reason I ask is that dire corbies are featured in a scene from one of the Drizzt books that was written during 2e. And I can't imagine it being a featured monster if it didn't have 2e stats somewhere.

Crap, did I just admit that I read a Drizzt book?
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Are you sure dire corby doesn't appear in 2e somewhere?

The reason I ask is that dire corbies are featured in a scene from one of the Drizzt books that was written during 2e. And I can't imagine it being a featured monster if it didn't have 2e stats somewhere.

Crap, did I just admit that I read a Drizzt book?
I am pretty sure they didn't, but am looking to be corrected if I am wrong.
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I'd be surprised if the "were-ass" made it to more than one edition.
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Are you sure dire corby doesn't appear in 2e somewhere?

The reason I ask is that dire corbies are featured in a scene from one of the Drizzt books that was written during 2e. And I can't imagine it being a featured monster if it didn't have 2e stats somewhere.
You memory serves you well. While the dire corby is indeed mentioned in the Homeland/Exile/Sojourn trilogy, it never made the leap to a 2nd Edition monster stat block. Even more oddly, I've been unable to find stats for the diatryma -- the creature from which Jarlaxle's hat's feather comes -- in any D&D product for any edition.
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Where did the "were-ass" appear?

There seem to be a number of odd lycathropes that have only appeared in one edition, but I can't seem to find a mention of a "were-ass" anywhere.

Single edition lycanthropes:
  • Werebaboon (Dungeon #98)
  • Werecamel (Polyhedron #29)
  • Werecrocodile (FR10: Old Empires/MC Annual 3; both 2nd Edition sources)
  • Weredire (Dragon #40)
  • Werelagomorph (Were-hare) (Dragon #156)
  • Weremole (Demihuman Deities)
  • Weremice (Imagine #17)
  • Wereram (Dragon #40)
  • Weresabre (Dragon #40)
  • Weresloth (Dragon #40)
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Where did the "were-ass" appear?

There seem to be a number of odd lycathropes that have only appeared in one edition, but I can't seem to find a mention of a "were-ass" anywhere.

Single edition lycanthropes:
  • Werebaboon (Dungeon #98)
  • Werecamel (Polyhedron #29)
  • Werecrocodile (FR10: Old Empires/MC Annual 3; both 2nd Edition sources)
  • Weredire (Dragon #40)
  • Werelagomorph (Were-hare) (Dragon #156)
  • Weremole (Demihuman Deities)
  • Weremice (Imagine #17)
  • Wereram (Dragon #40)
  • Weresabre (Dragon #40)
  • Weresloth (Dragon #40)
  • Wereweasel (Dragon #40)
It looks like most of these are 1e, but could you verify that for me before I add them to the list please?

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Where did the "were-ass" appear?

There seem to be a number of odd lycathropes that have only appeared in one edition, but I can't seem to find a mention of a "were-ass" anywhere.

Single edition lycanthropes:
  • Werebaboon (Dungeon #98)
  • Werecamel (Polyhedron #29)
  • Werecrocodile (FR10: Old Empires/MC Annual 3; both 2nd Edition sources)
  • Weredire (Dragon #40)
  • Werelagomorph (Were-hare) (Dragon #156)
  • Weremole (Demihuman Deities)
  • Weremice (Imagine #17)
  • Wereram (Dragon #40)
  • Weresabre (Dragon #40)
  • Weresloth (Dragon #40)
  • Wereweasel (Dragon #40)
Most of those were-creature didn't deserve to move on to the next edition (though I do love the werebaboon from the Shackled City), but there was a werecrocodile in 3e. It was in Sandstorm and Monsters of Faerun/
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I'd be surprised if the "were-ass" made it to more than one edition.
I think you mean the "asswere," the example creature of the Therianthrope template from the Tome of Horrors and Tome of Horrors Revised, from Necromancer Games.

Ironically, the template describes therianthropes as being animals that can assume a hybrid or human form; however, "therianthrope" is actually the correct reference for humans that can assume a hybrid or animal form (it's literally "animal human," rather than "lycanthrope," which means "wolf human"). The correct term for animals assuming hybrid/human form is "antherion," ("human animal") though the naming convention for the specific creature is correct in the ToH (that is, the "were" part comes at the end for antherions, and at the beginning for therianthropes).
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If we include the Tome of Horrors, then there is a 3e Dire Corby.
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Thouls appear in Moldvay Basic, but were never published for AD&D; I don't recall if they were mentioned in AD&D (perhaps under Yeenoghu?) or mentioned/published for 2e/3e/4e, but they're relatively less-known monsters in general.
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Thouls appear in Moldvay Basic, but were never published for AD&D; I don't recall if they were mentioned in AD&D (perhaps under Yeenoghu?) or mentioned/published for 2e/3e/4e, but they're relatively less-known monsters in general.
Thouls are in the 2nd Ed. Mystara MC. It seems like they were in a 3rd Ed. Dragon, but I can't find a reference for it.
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Thouls are in the 2nd Ed. Mystara MC. It seems like they were in a 3rd Ed. Dragon, but I can't find a reference for it.
If you're willing to go third-party--albeit officially licensed, in this case--they also appeared in Zeitgeist's 3E Blackmoor book, and the more recent 4E conversion.
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You memory serves you well. While the dire corby is indeed mentioned in the Homeland/Exile/Sojourn trilogy, it never made the leap to a 2nd Edition monster stat block.
Sweet! Now I know. (And knowing is half the battle.)

I'm totally making a 4e dire corby in the monster builder.

Hey, that gives me an idea: we should take every monster on this list, 4e-ize them, and submit it as a Dragon magazine article. Heh.
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