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General RPG Rules Discussion[WAS CALLED "Pathfinder/OGL/D20 GAMES"] Discuss the rules of Pathfinder, d20 Modern and any other game except D&D, such as Arcana Evolved, Mutants & Masterminds, Star Wars Saga, and the like.
I know WOTC has been all busy with this 4th Edition thing they've got going on, and I know that the KOTOR sourcebook is due out in a few weeks, but I am SERIOUSLY jonesing for some new Star Wars content.
Anybody else? Anybody know where I can score some? I'm tellin' ya! It's starting to hurt!
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KotOR Campaign Guide is next week (Aug 19), covering the era of the video games, KotOR comics, and Tales of the Jedi comics.
Force Unleashed Campaign Guide is next month (Sep 16), covering its namesake video game (also coming next month) and the 'Dark Times' era between the prequels and the original trilogy.
Also, the first six Dawn of Defiance adventures and lots of smaller snippets of content are up on WotC's web site.
I'm definitely glad we're getting some new stuff so quickly together. I do wish we'd get a good Alien Anthology, though. Those were always my favourite and most-used books from the previous editions and I'm not a fan of converting if I don't have to.
I'm definitely glad we're getting some new stuff so quickly together. I do wish we'd get a good Alien Anthology, though. Those were always my favourite and most-used books from the previous editions and I'm not a fan of converting if I don't have to.
Rodney's said The Plan (tm) is to have a book every 2-3 months once they got going. Though the saga of delays in the Force Unleashed video game played havoc with that late last year and early this year.
Still, this year we get two era books (KotOR and Force Unleashed), a class book (Scum and Villainy), and two general books (Starships of the Galaxy and Threats of the Galaxy). Next year is starting off with another two era books (Clone Wars and Legacy), but we don't know what's on the summer or fall schedule yet.
My guess on the future plans are
Era books: NJO and the Rebellion era the major ones left (Clone Wars should cover the prequel era well enough), though they might do something in the time between KotOR and the prequels.
Class books: It's easy to see follow-ons to Scum and Villainy for scouts, soldiers, nobles, and Jedi.
Generalist books: The obvious ones here are your aliens book and an arms and equipment guide.
Yeah, I do like how they're doing things...and if there's one man I trust with Star Wars stuff, its the Rodney. I've always loved his stuff.
While I'm missing having an alien book, it definitely is early for the game. And hey, we get two new era books. One of which we haven't really had since the d6 days(KotOR) and another for a 'new' era. And I'm definitely looking forward to the Legacy book. So there's enough to tide me over and keep me happy.
Nothing has been announced. I think it's likely, though if the KotOR book is common for 'era' books, they might not; the KotOR Campaign Guide has 11 species in it (plus rules for playing an HK droid), and if the other 3 have something close to that as well than you've got over 40 new species (and then you're scraping the bottom of the barrel for species book). But it seems to me that Clone Wars (prequel era) and Force Unleashed (Dark Times/between the trilogies era) are in eras pretty well covered by the core species, so there might only be one or two new ones in those books.
Rate they seem to be going, they may not really need a dedicated race book like UAA back for the RCR.
As for a tech book... I'm personally hoping not, as the Arms & Equipment Guide proved to be more of a bane than a boon to my games, especially as Star Wars in general isn't about getting whatever gear provides the most benefit; just because three or for different corporations make blaster pistols doesn't mean we need three or four different sets of stats for blaster pistols.
But I know that a lot of others enjoyed that book and all the toys it offered, so we may well see something like that in the future, though probably not until mid-2009 at the earliest.
Well, having read through the rough outline of content in the KotOR book, I have to say there is a bright future ahead here. If they keep up the quality on other releases then this might just be the line to supplant my love for the old WEG D6 game.
As for a tech book... I'm personally hoping not, as the Arms & Equipment Guide proved to be more of a bane than a boon to my games, especially as Star Wars in general isn't about getting whatever gear provides the most benefit; just because three or for different corporations make blaster pistols doesn't mean we need three or four different sets of stats for blaster pistols.
Rodney's also mentioned that it's unlikely, as Star Wars isn't really a gear oriented property.
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As for a tech book... I'm personally hoping not, as the Arms & Equipment Guide proved to be more of a bane than a boon to my games, especially as Star Wars in general isn't about getting whatever gear provides the most benefit; just because three or for different corporations make blaster pistols doesn't mean we need three or four different sets of stats for blaster pistols.
I've never really used the blasters and such, save for flavor text. What I've used most out of the book are the droids and vehicles.
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My own copy is en route from Amazon, but I've been borrowing the copy a friend bought (in exchange for him pretty much having claimed my second 4e PHB for his own household).
Have to say this is probably the sourcebook the SWSE fanbase has been waiting for. Not just because it's KOTOR, but becuase it is simply chock full of stuff for everybody, from Jedi to Mandos to everything in between. New talents, new feats, new gear, new prestige classes, new vehicles. Prego man, prego
I've spent the last couple of days thumbing through it, and it really fires me up for a Kotor campaign. If you're a fan of the games, it's got rules for alternate lightsaber crystals, different kinds of armor, new kinds of equipment. Not necessarily good for every campaign, but for folks who liked that aspect of the game, a good addition.
My one complaint is that some, though not all, of the art is really abysmally bad. The picture of Lucian Dray at one point looks as though he's 12 years old. Even the Young Lucian of the comic didn't look as young as that depiction (and of course, he's mostly depicted as a mature adult.
But that's a minor quibble. If the people responsible for this book are working on the Legacy book, I'm going to be beside myself trying to figure out what era I'd prefer to play in. Well done guys!
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Its definitely a good book, even with a few dodgy pieces of art. I'm still enthralled by the cover, front and back. Such beautiful work.
I have two small problems with the book. On is the Cathar. I despised the look for Juhani in KotOR, and I've always hated that its been explained away as a subspecies. I guess that's what happens with the exposure of the KotOR game compared to the old Tales of the Jedi comics, but argh...Crado and Sylvar were some of the best characters from the old comics, both their look and the actual characters.
The other is tangentally related, in that there's so much more focus on the games and such than the older things. I completely understand why, and I'm happy to see Zayne Carrick and friends detailed, but I would have liked more of the Tales of the Jedi crew highlighted than were. Its a sad truth to me that it just won't happen because of how old the comics were compared to this new stuff, especially when you combine it with the limited space for the book. Just disappointing, especially since I liked the feel of the TotJ stuff more than the recent KotOR, which doesn't strike me as thousands of years before the movies as much as the TotJ did, which was very clearly a different time. But oh well, minor things that I'll get over.
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