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Hi, I do not really know how to ask this so I will, I have a character that wants to... Set fire to an Inn in ford keep (the town). I don't know how to go about doing that. But she is, and attempting it.
It would be great if the magi would respond and let me know.
Last edited by Sill; 9th December 2007 at 02:46 PM..
Great, though I have not gotten an answer yet. I would really like one. My character is a human, just a caster so its not like the setting rules are being broken just laws if anyone saw it. If anything it was IC play that went that way, just wanted to know what went on from here?
You can't set fire to the Tavern or other parts of the town, at least, not in any official way. It wouldn't be acknowledged in any way since as far as the setting is concerned, it didn't happen at all.
Siani
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Because if one person is allowed to affect the setting in a permanent way, everyone has to be allowed to do so. Not everyone has something so harmless as a simple fire in some nameless inn; some people have wanted to pretty much raze the town, or large parts of it. As a result, I don't allow players to affect the setting in any official way.
However, if you want to sit and natter IC about how your house caught fire and so on, that's fine. There's a distinction between your character just talking about stuff with other characters and something that affects the setting itself in some way.
In a town like Ford Keep, the homes and businesses are close together. A serious fire would threaten other parts of town and therefore become something that affected the setting...forcing other people to deal with a player's personal desires. Same reasoning behind people not being able to shake the tavern off its foundations or blow the roof or doors off. While the situations are different in effect, the principle remains the same.
If you want anything goes type stuff, you'll have to choose a setting other than the CRT.
Siani
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Not to step on Siani's toes, but another good reason is setting consistancy. If individual players can have this kind of effect on the setting (for example, knocking all the walls of the tavern down), and other players aren't privy to that information, you end up with some characters reacting to it, and some not.
You end up with the same sort of thing even with little things like the weather. I live in the US, so I tend to play my characters with the weather outside my window at that moment (right now that would be snow and ice). However for our Australian friends, it's the middle of summer (or very nearly) over there, so you can wind up with some very humorous scenes, like this:
Mortonia walks into the tavern with her cloak wrapped tight around her to ward off the chill wind
Some_Other_Guy walks in from the garden, mopping his brow from the oppressive summer heat.
Now imagine that carried to the level of whole parts of the town being razed, but only some of the characters know about it. I think you begin to see the problems.
Why? I didn't know a non magical, non epic and very mundane thing was not allowed, it was not an intention at first, just kind of took place.
Look at it this way, kid... Think of most video games, you can kick, punch, cast spells, slice or even shoot a rocket launcher at a wall or obstacle and it won't break. xD Think of that same principle, just covering the entire town of Ford Keep.
Last edited by Mayu Amakura; 13th December 2007 at 07:09 PM..
I was once told by someone that long ago, back before the Tavern was EN World, when it was on the wizards site, that a group of people had gotten together, spoken over things with the Wizo's then had a riot and burnt down the tavern.
It has affected the tavern so much that they actually took it off the site temporarily and said that the tavern was being rebuilt due to the fire.
Not allowing us to stage something like this, is that another one of the restrictions that was placed on us players after the site moved to EN World?
I kind of figured that would be the reason Siani would give.At one point I wanted my character to set up a permanent gate between the settings, to allow people with no other way to get between planes to have some reasonable way to explain why and how they are in one of the other settings,but after thinking about it I came up with reasons pretty close to hers on my own.Saying that my other chars know of a gate between worlds and there actually being one included in the setting are totally different. one affects my characters,and the other the whole of the setting. Not that I don't see both sides,but I think Siani is right, if one person can do it, then everyone will want to, and the ones that aren't approved will get upset and so forth.
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Well if you still want to do a fire thing, maybe peer at a map of Oreth or Grayhawk; sure you could find one on Google or something. Find a city close to Fordskeep and ask Siani if she would mind if you did one someplace else. Heck, theres lots of surrounding faming communities and hamlets/thorpes all around Fords Keep. Perhaps talk it out with Siani to see if she would agree if your character started a fire there. This way your not effecting Fordskeep in which the CRT Setting is actually set in. Maybe you will or maybe you wont get compliance on it but keep trying.
Don't give up on your ideas because inspiration comes from imagination and well that in fact is the founding of anything we all do You can always rearrange your ideas and modify them, refine them until you come up with something that can be agreed on. Maybe instead of burning a building down get creative. Something that would only effect the building. Maybe somehow its magically vanished to no one knows where; sucked into the Shadow Plane, yanked into the Everchanging Limbo. Or go simple, maybe the building is flooded on the inside and has lots of water damage. Maybe the building was disassembled in the night by an unruly pack of evil Gnomes who were paid to take it down.
Really rack your mind and keep bringing up idea's, and that goes for everyone! Lets make our community better.
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I was once told by someone that long ago, back before the Tavern was EN World, when it was on the wizards site, that a group of people had gotten together, spoken over things with the Wizo's then had a riot and burnt down the tavern.
It has affected the tavern so much that they actually took it off the site temporarily and said that the tavern was being rebuilt due to the fire.
Not allowing us to stage something like this, is that another one of the restrictions that was placed on us players after the site moved to EN World?
What you have there sounds like a very specific, one-time-only exception to the rule. As you yourself say, the players involved got together with the staff, coordinated the storyline idea, organized a plan, and executed it with staff involvement at all stages. There's a line between working with the setting leads, involving them from the very beginning before setting anything in motion, and simply asking permission.
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SO um......your saying your guys WANT Siani to lock the Tavern and Garden for awhile? Cause thats the jist I'm getting from this.
Tah be quite honest, I wouldn't care if the tavern was locked down or caught on fire or blown to a kazillion shmithereenies, cause I'd still have The Bazaar and The Cage to roam around in. xD
Well, it's not to say that we want them to take the CRT off the flash chat and that's -why- we intend to do it. Think of it as if you were unhappy with the way the setting of the CRT is, maybe you would rally people together and burn it down as if to make a statement.
Perhaps, your just acting out the behavior of your character or you have a score to settle with people in Ford's Keep, so in retaliation maybe you burn the place down. I mean, why not have it as an option? Besides, I'm sure people could tollerate the CRT being down for a short time even if it did happen.
Tah be quite honest, I wouldn't care if the tavern was locked down or caught on fire or blown to a kazillion shmithereenies, cause I'd still have The Bazaar and The Cage to roam around in. xD
Fortunately one vote doesn't count, you silly person you!
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Well, it's not to say that we want them to take the CRT off the flash chat and that's -why- we intend to do it. Think of it as if you were unhappy with the way the setting of the CRT is, maybe you would rally people together and burn it down as if to make a statement.
Perhaps, your just acting out the behavior of your character or you have a score to settle with people in Ford's Keep, so in retaliation maybe you burn the place down. I mean, why not have it as an option? Besides, I'm sure people could tollerate the CRT being down for a short time even if it did happen.
Because too many people would suddenly want to change the entire site. All hail, lets burn everything and make it bigger, newer, and shiner. The Magi don't have the time to redo everything. That is a lot of work!
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It would be interesting to see the CRT catch on fire for a night...
Make it the auto-heal CRT.
Any damage it sustains will be healed once the owner of the tavern steps over the threshold.
No matter if it was a flood, fire, tornado, or somehow someone smuggled a bomb from the future.
It would interesting to see how people's characters reacted.
Say it were a fire, maybe it would a fire that was conjured to only affect the CRT and not the surrounding buildings.
Interesting...but as I am not in charge it doesn't really matter.
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But she is, and attempting it.
SO um......your saying your guys WANT Siani to lock the Tavern and Garden for awhile? Cause thats the jist I'm getting from this.
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