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[Ghaelun HammerFrost]

decided my post was useless ..thank you

[Zeren]

Now, I'm not an intellectual or anything but...your point is lost.

First of all, you should outline your cause a bit better.

Second, punctuation and tact are good things!

Finally, this is free-form role playing. If people want to be polite and nice, it's their choice. We shouldn't be berating people's free will, now.

Maybe you should play an evil character, instead of attacking those who don't.

Anyways, I hope this information helps you, Ghaelun.

[Magi_Trelian]

Originally Posted by Ghaelun HammerFrost

....and all of u self proclaimed gods..well it clearly states NO OTHER GODS CAN ROAM ANY SETTING OF THE ISRP..oh my god i hate seeing that..

*cough* Excuse me, but, you know, the Sigil rooms? Fine with me if your char calls itself a god. Just saying. :-)

For the rest, you are certainly allowed to form your own opinion. Please try to keep expressions of it from becoming too close to trolling.

[Lexla]

I have to agree with Frost, it is to much though.

[Tharivious]

Originally Posted by Ghaelun HammerFrost

everyone is too busy being mysterious and dark or too busy trying to be polite and loveable...

You mean, like it has been for, oh, I don't know, the last decade? It's nothing new, so suggesting that the ISRP has "gone" anywhere is a bit of an incorrect idea. It's the nature of a social community for people to act like, well, normal people, and attempt to socialize, or brood, or what-have-you.

I'll second what Zeren said. If you want to see a change in the social climate, lead by example and take the initiative to do something about it. Create a compelling villain that's more than a one-trick combat monkey that can create conflict outside of the Clearing/Cage or a running gimmick of dark cliches, and things will likely become less "boring".

[Dontella]

If you, general you, dislike the situation at hand..

1. Grammar and Punctuation, Please.

2. Freedom of Destiny and Free Form Role Play. This means I, and everyone else who comes to ENWorld IRSP, can RP our characters in any way we see fit to do so, so long as it remains within the given CoC and Setting Rules.

3. If all you are going to do is complain about how much you dislike the situation.. then simply leave.

These rants get no where. If you have a helpful suggestion, by all means share it. I have no doubt people are willing to listen to rationally thought out and well organized constructive criticisms. However a ramble and rant about how bad you view something to be, without any positive suggestions as to how to change it, is going to be viewed negatively.

[Akea]

Originally Posted by Ghaelun HammerFrost

there is hardly any fighting anymore..where are all the villians!..where is the evil!

*snickers* Baalodias, Titus, and myself would feel tickled about that. Sheesh, we have a war going on, and earlier today there was a bit of bantering back and forth between my character (Jazzmyn) and yours. Perhaps her immediate fleeting the scene made you feel like she didn't want to conflict. I had some important negotiating to do, so I'm sorry if it made you feel punted in the head or something.

[Ghaelun HammerFrost]

my complaints have nothing to do with my current character..but with whats been going on on isrp lately..i'm not trying to infringe on anyone's..freedom of destiny..and i did give helpful suggestions thank you..as far as punctuation and grammar, i cant believe you guys would be so menial and nitpicky..so whatever..

[Mayu Amakura]

there is hardly any fighting anymore..where are all the villians!..where is the evil!

You know, this has been thrown around off site for quite a while now.. All the talk about no villians, just talk etc.. and I waited a while to reply, so I missed the original post.. But, sometimes constant fighting doesn't produce a good storyline, especially with the type of fighting that goes on in ISRP.

Mayu has encountered, in the majority of the battles she has been in, characters that can turn into 15 foot tall monsters that weigh a kagillion pounds and have more arms than all the other characters in ISRP combined.. She has had decent battles too, but anyways.. the point is.. Maybe some of the baddies that are active have bigger plans than to do meaningless fighting and brawling for no point what-so-ever.. and maybe some think fighting is frustrating, but I'm not sure.. because I can't think for them.

I can just express my opinion, and my opinion is: I find it frustrating to fight at times, and therefore, do not do it often.

[Mystearia]

I myself find it slightly frustrateing when i am fighting only because some people... no matter what happens to ther character, refuse to let them die... that said i know that freedom of destiny is used alot in those cases.. but really... in reality people don't get to choose when they die and thats why they come to isrp

[Mayu Amakura]

Originally Posted by Mystearia

I myself find it slightly frustrateing when i am fighting only because some people... no matter what happens to ther character, refuse to let them die... that said i know that freedom of destiny is used alot in those cases.. but really... in reality people don't get to choose when they die and thats why they come to isrp

I completely agree with you, though to be blunt, I'm not one to talk. I use FoD and will tell you straight up that I do. Love it, or hate, I'll use it if I need to, but that doesn't mean I won't let Mayu get the holy crap beat out of her, just use it for emergencies.

I mean, I could sit here all day and call out people, call out problems about ISRP, and spit out everything I see wrong, Myst... but in reality, is it worth our time? It will never change unless the people involved are willing to make it change... and sadly, I don't think they are.

[Mystearia]

Originally Posted by Dontella

If you, general you, dislike the situation at hand..

1. Grammar and Punctuation, Please.
3. If all you are going to do is complain about how much you dislike the situation.. then simply leave.
These rants get no where. If you have a helpful suggestion, by all means share it. I have no doubt people are willing to listen to rationally thought out and well organized constructive criticisms.

Honestly.. i am very surprised at people. first by the fact they sound like frosts mom by telling him to correct his grammar and punctuation. secondly by the fact that they would suggest that someone leave the site, after all the crap enworld went through in the early stages to get people to come here.. while it's true ranting will get no positive responses it's still a good way to vent, and frankly barely anyone will listen if there is a hint of complaint as shown by this thread.. in the end the only way anything would change voulentary or otherwise is for everyone to change. i personally like the way the isrp is right now.. though i myself have only one major story going now. on a side note.. if you don't like what someone posts just don't respond to it.. simple as that

[Mayu Amakura]

Originally Posted by Mystearia

Honestly.. i am very surprised at people. first by the fact they sound like frosts mom by telling him to correct his grammar and punctuation. secondly by the fact that they would suggest that someone leave the site,after all the crap enworld went through in the early stages to get people to come here.. while it's true ranting will get no positive responses it's still a good way to vent, and frankly barely anyone will listen if there is a hint of complaint as shown by this thread.. in the end the only way anything would change voulentary or otherwise is for everyone to change. i personally like the way the isrp is right now.. though i myself have only one major story going now. on a side note.. if you don't like what someone posts just don't respond to it.. simple as that

I agree there, really no ones place to tell someone to correct their grammar, especially here since there are plenty of people with their own styles of typing. And as for leaving the site, that's that persons choice, no one elses. If he/she wants to stay and complain about it, more power to 'em, the least we can do is listen and if you don't like what they have to say, don't respond or give them something they can work with and not un-needed suggestions...

I really have no true issue with ISRP, I don't let it get to me, you how? Well it is really simple when you don't care about it, when things get icky onsite, or things happen I don't enjoy. I go to RP at The Den or in MSN, either with my back-up character or just to get away from whatever situation that is unattractive..

[Kinetti]

haha. Me, I find this ironic. I guess it's all "eye of the beholder". The person who started this thread sees no villains and only "good" people. Me, I look around and think it's 90% evil people and those who love 'em. Funny, huh? hehe

[Mayu Amakura]

Originally Posted by Kinetti

haha. Me, I find this ironic. I guess it's all "eye of the beholder". The person who started this thread sees no villains and only "good" people. Me, I look around and think it's 90% evil people and those who love 'em. Funny, huh? hehe

That is funny indeed.. but I'm guessing what he really meant was that the evil people that are here, do not act evil. They end up snuggling with their friends in the Cage, etc.. so on and so forth and to be honest, they do. xD Mayu does it, and I pick out that flaw about her. n_n

[Tharivious]

Originally Posted by Mystearia

and frankly barely anyone will listen if there is a hint of complaint as shown by this thread..

It's not a matter of the "hint of complaint" leading it to fall on deaf ears. It's a matter of the same fallacy of a complaint that we've heard year in, year out for the last several years. Complaints without action accomplish nothing but antagonizing the masses, and when it's a rerun, it's even more antagonizing because we've already had these discussions and explained the only way to resolve it: Do something about it yourself.

It really is just that simple. Not enough interesting villains for your taste? Create one with a compelling personality, and not just a heap of muscles and claws. Not enough combat? Develop a personality that can irk people until they want to fight you. Too much friendliness and cuddling going on? Lead by example and find some friends that won't fall into the pattern and don't participate in the love-fest.

That is why the response sometimes turns to "If all you're going to do is complain, then leave"; because if the one making the complaints isn't doing anything actively to turn their own situation around, it's no one else's responsibility to make the change on the whim's of one dissatisfied member of the community. Or even several dissatisfied members of the community, for that matter.

Change has to begin somewhere, and the only way to affect a change toward what you're looking for, is to initiate that change for yourself.

[Kallikrates]

And if all that fails, see if there's anyone around who wants to wreak some havoc and get a storyline going.

I'm sure someone's character(s) hasn't doesn't anything in a while.

I'm assuming that everyone here has more than one character and that one of us has a character who's just gathering dust.

And it may because I haven't been online a lot over the past few months, but I don't think there was ever too many lovey dovey stuff.

I admit some of my RPing was...odd, but I tried to create some insanity single handedly, but that doesn't work too well.

It has to be a team effort.

And the name Baalodias reminds me one of my characters was on the search for him, so maybe I need to jump back into it.

*end craziness*

[Willow_Calypso]

Originally Posted by Mystearia

Honestly.. i am very surprised at people. first by the fact they sound like frosts mom by telling him to correct his grammar and punctuation. secondly by the fact that they would suggest that someone leave the site, after all the crap enworld went through in the early stages to get people to come here.. while it's true ranting will get no positive responses it's still a good way to vent, and frankly barely anyone will listen if there is a hint of complaint as shown by this thread.. in the end the only way anything would change voulentary or otherwise is for everyone to change. i personally like the way the isrp is right now.. though i myself have only one major story going now. on a side note.. if you don't like what someone posts just don't respond to it.. simple as that

There is a difference between poor grammar and bad grammar. If it takes me more then two minutes to decipher what your character just said or it gives me an immediate headache to read your thread - I'm not going to RP with you - This is a text based site. Simple as it is. If people can't understand you, they're not going to want to interact with you.

[MistyThorin]

Originally Posted by Mystearia

Honestly.. i am very surprised at people. first by the fact they sound like frosts mom by telling him to correct his grammar and punctuation.

There actually is a point to people suggesting that one clean up one's grammar and punctuation, along with spelling and formatting. The point is, if one's rant, question, or suggestion is typed in such a manner as to affect its readability, it makes it very difficult to understand the post well enough to respond. And yes, I will admit, there are those of us onsite who find posts full of text speak annoying and difficult to decipher under the best of circumstances.

When one takes the time to arrange one's thoughts into a coherent, well-formatted, and articulate message, that message will almost certainly get attention and hopefully a certain amount of reasonable discussion. However, a rambling rant full of grammatical errors and misspellings, with little or no punctuation and no separation of paragraphs, is far more likely to simply be dismissed as whining... especially if said rant does not have an easily spotted point to it.

[Magi_Trelian]

Since the original post has been removed by the author, I'm locking this thread. Further discussion on the proper literary construction of rants and on the love lives of gods and villains, can take place elsewhere, as usual.