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Old 10th April 2008, 07:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This is a question, not a complaint. I am hoping that several will respond (as the question has a ton of variables). I am also prepared and expecting some negative response mixed with some positive and absolutely useless ones.

I've noticed recently that there is a new trend. I don't entirely know how to classify it, but lately I've noticed that squatting (sitting in rooms for several minutes to hours idly) has increased. I've also noticed that these squatters either do not interact or leave immediately leave when another character pops into the room. Can anyone let me in on why this is happening and why is it so common lately?

I realize that there are RP cliques. I'm guilty of it myself. I'm just curious when it became so evident that people seem so reluctant to branch out and RP with other members of the community?

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Old 10th April 2008, 07:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Most those people, at least from my observations, are only waiting for a certain person to wander in to RP and in most cases them walking out as another walks in may just be bad timing. If they've been there awhile and got sick of the fact that no one wandered in they may have just logged out without knowing your there.
Or, as is my case with the possibly two characters I bother bringing to this place anymore, they have certain rooms they refuse to go in. I myself avoid CRT and only go there if a certain person has asked me too. And even then they had better have a damn good reason why they can't come elsewhere.
Just my thoughts, probaly wrong but hey never claimed I was right!
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Old 10th April 2008, 07:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 10th April 2008, 10:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I am horribly guilty. The reasons...time. Right now, my RP time is pretty valuable, and that's not to say I dont want my character to interact with new people or whatever, but there are some things that she needs to get done before I indulge myself. This is often within the clique, though can be for any particular reason. As such, I'll 'leg it' when someone foreign comes on/in, mainly because I dont want to get caught up. I figure it's worse to RP a few minutes, then leave abruptly, than to start RPin' at all.

Am I wrong?
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Old 10th April 2008, 11:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Ariel.

You're not wrong, I've done the same before, and I'm sure the majority of the people here on enworld have aswell, whether they realise it or not.

Bystander.

Along with the other responses given, alot of the times those "Squatters" As you put it.. I call them campers my self, are in fact people whole just close the browser window, and not hit that red dot to the top right of the fash chat window to log them out, and I've realised, by testing this myself, that by just closing the browser, the flashchat system does not automatically recognise you have logged out all the time and sometimes wont realise until the computer you're on is switched off. so it's possible alot of the people don't even realise they're doing it.

Hope that rant helps ^_^
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Old 10th April 2008, 11:07 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I have taken to not giving out my msn address or asking for the MSN of some people are rp with . This gives the rp a freshness and a freedom from preconcieved ideas. Sometimes I lurk in the lounge so that they know I am about when we havn't rped in a while.

Some times I lurk waiting for other random people to turn up and I get called away suddenly or just let my attention wander... Seriously I can sit in there for hours with nothing happening so I play scrabble with the computer or get up and do the washing up. Some times this results in me missing people coming and going
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Old 10th April 2008, 11:11 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks for that Mac.. I didn't know about the red dot LOL!!
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Old 10th April 2008, 11:20 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Hehe, you're welcome Brandia!

Glad i could help. As long as i was able to help one person I'm happy ^_^
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Old 10th April 2008, 11:31 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I'm guilty of it myself, as some of my characters are simply waiting for something to happen before they reveal themselves to actually be there...

Ambush!

I deal with people squatting and camping by interacting with private messaging them, at least to get an OCC conversation started.

By the way, though, this is no 'new' trend. It's been around ever since chat rooms were invented...and bars...and school...and any social situation!
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Old 12th April 2008, 04:55 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Yeah, there are lots of reasons. The ghosting (that's what I call the incomplete log out - and I don't think I've ever noticed a red dot; I usually get stuck with a ghost of my character when something happens with my computer and I have to shut the window or task manage out of it or whatever).
Some wait for others. Usually I see this happening with the lounge. Sometimes it's not just a clique thing - if there's a plotline going on with a particular character and specific other characters, where the person needs more information before playing, or the character has to be escorted (like a child under 12 in the Tavern) sometimes they're stuck having to wait. So, they stay logged in so the person or people they're waiting for can see that they're on.

I'm guilty of having a character sitting in an empty room while I do other stuff. Seriously, who wants to sit there staring at a mostly blank screen if no one is in the room with your char? Usually, when I do that, I'm good about popping back to the window and checking now and then. But, occassionally, if nothing happens for too long, I'll completely forget I'm even logged into ISRP. Which makes it difficult for anyone who finally does come in - pming and interacting OoC doesn't help if the person's not even looking at the window.
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Old 12th April 2008, 05:09 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Yep. That's why I turn the flashchat sounds on when I'm doing other stuff.
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Old 12th April 2008, 05:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Flashchat has sounds?
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Old 12th April 2008, 06:17 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Well maybe not Flashcat... feh, for how I know about PC stuff. Where you type what your char does/says? Above it is the "options" button, right? There you can turn them on and off.
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Thanks Bari!
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Old 12th April 2008, 08:33 PM   #15 (permalink)
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food tends to make my character ghost...espcially during lunch and dinner times....aswell as alcohol....I blame Ariel though, Bundy got me addicted...
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Old 13th April 2008, 02:36 AM   #16 (permalink)
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this seem like a good place to stick this comment, i have camped myself many times and it doesnt bother me when others do it but what about the awful lag recently?
once i was sitting there waiting for someone to show up and when they did i typed something and it took nearly 5 minutes for it to appear on the screen and the person was gone before it posted in the chat. does anyone else have this problem?
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Old 13th April 2008, 03:29 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I've been having issues with lag and have heard of others. I don't know if it's been 5 minutes - but it has felt like it.
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Old 13th April 2008, 06:25 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Quote:
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food tends to make my character ghost...espcially during lunch and dinner times....aswell as alcohol....I blame Ariel though, Bundy got me addicted...
It wasn't me, I didn't do it and you cant blame me!

Nor is it my fault, that Bundy, is by far, the most glorious thing in the whole world...

But I have sounds now, this is definately a bonus.
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Old 13th April 2008, 11:59 AM   #19 (permalink)
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yes me too!! The lag thing is sending me insane.Its worse than putting in a last minute bid on ebay and hoping to god it gets through before the auction ends !! I'm like jumping up and down and screaming at the screen..and then up comes your post and a dozen others in between from other people that totaly makes what you just wrote into nonsence. aghhhhhhh!
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Brandia... I'm with you on this one.. The lag is a pain in the back side -_- And as for the jumpin' up and down screaming at the screen.. Just remember to breathe

Remember folks! Red Dot, top right! -Snickers- And I'm definately testing these sounds when I get around to replacing my speakers. (( Speakers, outside, party and rain... Never the best mix.. ))
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