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Old 22nd January 2007, 09:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Combat in the Garden

Sunday evening from 7 pm to 7:30 pm PST (10 to 10:30 pm EST) there was a very active combat going on the Garden.

Combat in the non-combat designated rooms is not allowed when it goes beyond the most minimal opening moves of a fight.

In this case, one person started a fight. Another person responded and made references to the clearing. The first person didn't take the hint and continued combat. The other person also kept fighting and even more people joined in.

This isn't how to handle it! Keeping "in character" is not a valid excuse for breaking the CoC!

I'm also disappointed that no one tried to contain it through PMs. Yeah, we can tell that.

If someone is attacking you and they won't move it to the clearing then you have choices:
(1) go to the clearing yourself (if they want to fight you they'll have to follow)
(2) leave to another room (and hope they don't follow)
(3) ignore their actions completely or by making up reasons that nothing hits

You are not allowed to keep fighting in "self-defense" nor to "protect" another char.

If you are attacking someone else and they won't move it to the clearing, you have only one choice: stop attacking them!

Questions?
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Old 22nd January 2007, 11:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 23rd January 2007, 12:13 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Yep.
You know, it's a nice paradox. If you'd posted an intelligent question, I wouldn't be able to think of you as a Smart-Alek. ;-)
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Old 23rd January 2007, 12:56 AM   #4 (permalink)
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*raises a hand*

When a 5th Generation Anarch Venture, with considerable strength and power, slams into an Orc thing, should the Orc:

A: Be thrown off balance and into the Clearing.
B: Be slightly dazed, and then gets mad and chases vampy into Clearing.
C: Doesn't budge, and continues to taunt poor Lawne.

or

D: Have a Magi with some White Wolf knowledge judge the merit of this question.


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Old 23rd January 2007, 01:50 AM   #5 (permalink)
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ISRP is in all honesty FoD. If a player doesn't want to acknowledge something your character does, that should be taken up between players. A Magi say no say if or how your action should of been taken.

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Old 23rd January 2007, 02:52 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Agreed with Apolline. The only answer we can give is (E) Both should go into the Clearing regardless of whatever effect does or doesn't happen from the slam.

(For newcomers, "FoD" is "Freedom of Destiny", i.e., you get to decide what effect anything has on your character, as your own DM. Hopefully players can work it out so that "FoD" doesn't become "Fight over Decision.")
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Old 23rd January 2007, 03:15 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Good answers.

One other thing; The Garden follows the rules for the Tavern. It is right next to the Tavern. It is a publicly accessible area. It is not hidden. It is in the town proper as is the Tavern. It is NOT howling wilderness/deep forest etc. So, no wolf packs or other such things. Use the Clearing for battle. For other things...

There is a Tavern in Sigil...which doesn't give a damn who you are or where you come from, and doesn't mind brawls.

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Old 23rd January 2007, 03:49 AM   #8 (permalink)
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*raises a hand*

When a 5th Generation Anarch Venture, with considerable strength and power, slams into an Orc thing, should the Orc:

A: Be thrown off balance and into the Clearing.
B: Be slightly dazed, and then gets mad and chases vampy into Clearing.
C: Doesn't budge, and continues to taunt poor Lawne.

or

D: Have a Magi with some White Wolf knowledge judge the merit of this question.


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Thank you for your cooperation.

Having another player respect your own characters supposed strength and abilities in a fair, and entertaining manner is far and above the most difficult aspect of online role playing.

The second most difficult aspect is actually validating your own characters strength and abilities.
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Old 23rd January 2007, 10:29 AM   #9 (permalink)
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The rules ate fairly vague on what constitutes what is okay. Care to define "minimal opening moves"? Is this one or two attacks? Defending ones self but not attacking?Attacking two people once each?
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Old 23rd January 2007, 11:24 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Essentially the exchange of a strike, that is, once each before moving to the Clearing.

If you don't like breaking continuity, then I suggest the preliminary posturing; shoving, threatening with blades, etc, be the point at which movement to the Clearing commences. However, a single exchange is acceptable for the most part, as long as it is not disruptive to the room. So having two sides or a whole group exchange blows isn't appropriate, but two individuals can do it generally without a problem.

And there's always the fighting tavern.

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Old 23rd January 2007, 06:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
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O.O

...never thought my post would be taken so seriously...

-_-;

...really, I don't care what the Orc did, I mean such is life, I figured one would crack a whip and give me a multiply choice answer, not an essay *laughs sheepishly*

Promise next time I'll but a disclaimer, as to void all seriousness if I mean it playfully...!

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Old 23rd January 2007, 07:28 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Entirely my fault, Magis. If I had known that such would have caused such a large problem I would not have even started it. I had two characters involved in the fight, and I do believe you all know which two. Whatever the case, I had no idea it would have caused such a disturbance and was such a serious breach to the CoC. I am sorry and will not allow it to happen again.

As for Nich's post, don't expect to joke around with such a serious situation.

And if I may make a point...the reason why no one bothered to contact each other through PMs, Siani, is probably because no one was disturbed. Many people were actually entertained by this whole ordeal...but, still no excuse. Just wanted to bring that up.
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Old 24th January 2007, 02:37 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I had no idea it would have caused such a disturbance and was such a serious breach to the CoC. I am sorry and will not allow it to happen again.

And if I may make a point...the reason why no one bothered to contact each other through PMs, Siani, is probably because no one was disturbed. Many people were actually entertained by this whole ordeal...but, still no excuse. Just wanted to bring that up.

Zeren, everyone should read the CoC before first entering the site to rp for the very first time to know what the rules are. Its like in the real world, ignorance of the rules/laws isn't an excuse.

It really doesn't matter if others didn't object to it. Someone obviously did complain at some point. People should know better then to let this happen. But then again some just don't care anymore and break the rules constantly and that is why some players aren't around like they use to be now days.
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Old 24th January 2007, 09:54 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Zeren, everyone should read the CoC before first entering the site to rp for the very first time to know what the rules are. Its like in the real world, ignorance of the rules/laws isn't an excuse.
Never said I didn't know what I started was against the CoC. I just didn't know what I did was so serious. I know that now and have apologized for what happened. I will not let this happen again.
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