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Old 24th February 2009, 03:26 PM   #21 (permalink)
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A good start; thanks D. Now we just need to fill in some of those.
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Old 24th February 2009, 04:30 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I haven't forgotten all the good ideas for additional record options posted here, but I'm taking a break from typing in options on the Wiki for now.

Anybody who feels like it should go ahead and continue as needed.
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Old 24th February 2009, 05:12 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I've updated the damage done records with Hrav's 50 damage Torturous Strike / Predatory Eye / Sneak Attack crit (and the fight it occured it for 135 encounter damage).

http://www.enworld.org/forum/4510724-post302.html

I know Kruk did more damage in a single turn by using an action point, but I'll let dimsdale overwrite the Hrav entry there.
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Old 24th February 2009, 06:52 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Now the tough part is doing the research to see if you/your party actually holds the record.

I was wondering about the encounter difficulty ones. Perhaps people could post their party's record so it's easier to compare.

F'rinstance, I think the Hoofchew fight might be the 'most challenging encounter': (1298-900)/900 = .442

Also, I think our barfight in Echoes of O is a contender for highest monster-to-PC ratio: 10 monsters to either 4 or 5 PCs (so 2.5:1 or 2:1), depending how you want to look at it.

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Old 24th February 2009, 07:05 PM   #25 (permalink)
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That formula strikes me as odd. Why (1298-900)/900? Why not just 1298/900, a simple ratio of monster xp budget to PC "xp budget"?

I feel fairly sure that it won't affect the rankings one way or another; i.e. if encounter A is harder than encounter B in one system, it still will be in the other system. It just seems like a strange number to produce to me.
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Old 24th February 2009, 07:09 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I overwrote Hrav's single turn record with Kruk's, since I was in there and had a link handy. I also put in the current round of Closed Eye as a candidate for the longest chain of readied actions, since I can't think of any other encounters featuring something like that.
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Old 24th February 2009, 07:09 PM   #27 (permalink)
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A few more potentials:
- Most XP earned (in a single battle, in a single addy, overall)
- Most treasure (in gp) earned (in a single battle, in a single addy)
- Longest/shortest adventure
- Most adventures completed
- Most adventures ran
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Old 24th February 2009, 08:03 PM   #28 (permalink)
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That formula strikes me as odd. Why (1298-900)/900? Why not just 1298/900, a simple ratio of monster xp budget to PC "xp budget"?

I feel fairly sure that it won't affect the rankings one way or another; i.e. if encounter A is harder than encounter B in one system, it still will be in the other system. It just seems like a strange number to produce to me.
You're absolutely right. I'm not exactly sure what I was thinking with that formula ... the only difference is 1.X vs. 0.X. I think I'll change that.
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I added the Echoes of O bar fight (2-to-1 odds); I think the 2 hits for 15 total damage Vlastos took in the first action might be a candidate for most hits/damage received, but I didn't add it because I'm not sure.
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Old 24th February 2009, 09:37 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I think you're probably right about Vlastos holding the record for most punishment in one action, but I'd have to go back and check to make sure, which I don't have time for at the moment.

Also, apparently the Hoofchew fight wasn't the toughest encounter yet. Turns out that the MMC had two encounters that were 1.5 on the Toughness Scale, and the last battle of Necromancer's Skull was the same.
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If my calculations aren't off, we should be on the verge of winning an encounter worth 775 xp(if i remember right) as a 2nd level party with 4 members. Not bad uh?
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If my calculations aren't off, we should be on the verge of winning an encounter worth 775 xp(if i remember right) as a 2nd level party with 4 members. Not bad uh?
Yeah, that'd be 775/(125*4) = 775/500 = 1.55. I was about to say, "That's not that great, 775/800 is less than 1!" but I forgot that level 2 characters aren't just worth twice as much XP as level 1.
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Old 24th February 2009, 11:27 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Hmm, true; I didn't think that encounter was all that hard, but by the numbers it's up there. Of course, terrain and tactics count for a lot in 4e. The MMC's latest fight, against skirmishers and artillery (and some minions) is in an area with very limited movement options and lots of terrain blocking movement. Because of the unfavorable terrain, the monsters are having trouble staying out of melee, and aren't concentrating fire. Contrast this with Closed Eye's latest fight, which also features artillery and skirmishers. By the numbers (550/400 = 1.375) it should be somewhat easier, but the terrain is much more favorable for a long range, mobile fight, and the PCs are having trouble.

Not that this has anything to do with records, I just thought it was interesting.
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Well if Alex had failed his save to avoid falling of the ship into the stormy shifting sea I might have had something to say against the terrain argument!

Oh and by the way it was 11 vs 4, just like the rats encounter. Though I understand there have been larger encounters...
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Here's another record for the MMC: Quagmire once moved 18 squares in a single turn. I don't think anyone else has been that silly yet. I don't expect that record to stand, though; Q only has speed 5 and sooner or later someone with speed 7 will try that maneuver.
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Old 25th February 2009, 12:14 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I think all this just goes to show that the MMC is the roughest, toughest, baddest crew in all the Transitive Isles.
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...and with a badass name on top of it!
Now we really need the Bloody Wake to freely raid the whole Shifting Seas...
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...and with a badass name on top of it!
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Y'know ... I just can't argue with this. The MMC is pretty darn cool.

On a serious note, can anyone think of the fight with the largest odds against the PCs? With Hoofchew there were 13 monsters (if I counted right), but there were 9 PCs, so it's definitely not in the running.
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I propose the MMC's current fight Well, numerically in truth we're owning :P

Don't worry Garyh. As soon as Alex can but his hands on Pass Forward from Martial Power, Hrav is gonna be the most frequently flanking rogue of the Transitive Isles... You'll love it!
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Don't worry Garyh. As soon as Alex can but his hands on Pass Forward from Martial Power, Hrav is gonna be the most frequently flanking rogue of the Transitive Isles... You'll love it!
Yes, yes, I will. Our group's great for a rogue - lots of melee PC's with smart tactics, and a warlord for extra melee basic attacks that work great for Hrav due to his Str being as high as his Dex.
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