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Old 7th August 2009, 04:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Rules Question: Retraining

Hey,

What was the ruling for normal level-up retraining? (Not the super overhaul.)

Is retraining of class features permitted?
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Old 7th August 2009, 07:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
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No, I don't believe so. You can always make a proposal, though.
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Old 7th August 2009, 08:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Nah. I was just a-wondering.

If I recall, didn't we say that you could retrain a feat, a skill, and a power at each level or something like that?
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Old 7th August 2009, 09:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yup, its in da Holy Book:
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Every time your character gains a level, you can retrain one feat, power, and skill. If new character options have been approved for play in L4W since your character’s last approval of submission or level-up, you may additionally retrain one new feat, power, and class feature (when selectable) from the new source(s).
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Yup, its in da Holy Book:
That's great news. I didn't know that. Thanks KenHood for asking the question and Dunamin for answering it.

Maybe tonight I'll sit down and actually read the rules. Hopefully, I haven't violated too many of them.
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Old 8th August 2009, 01:37 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks, Dunamin!
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Old 8th August 2009, 01:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Actually, you can retrain 2 feats or powers per level, IF one of them is frm a source that was not yet approved when you chose the feat/power you're retraining.
Basically, if you retrain a power into one that was not approved when you last leveled, you get an extra retrain.
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Old 8th August 2009, 07:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Okay...

So, I want Jerkwad Palindrome to replace his Warlock multiclass feat (since he has NEVER used that power) to the Bard multiclass feat (so he can get some healing). The skill from the Bard M/C feat would be Bluff, since Thievery's not on their list, which means that Palindrome's Skill Training (Bluff) would need to change to Skill Training (Thievery).

Since the Bard M/C feat was not approved when I last leveled-up, does that mean I could change one more feat?

If so, I'm probably going to dump the 'Jack of all Trades' skill and acquire a Familiar for the character.
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Yes, correct. And... Palindrome with a familiar?! LOL!
Bard doesn't seem particularly appropriate, though, I must say... Wouldn't, say, rogue be a better fit?
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Old 8th August 2009, 09:11 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Rogue gives him the Sneak Attack ability, which doesn't help him out since he doesn't use the appropriate weapons.
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I don't know if Palindrome meets the stats prerequisites, but Sly Dodge might be somewhat useful to him in some situations (and gives training in either bluff or intimidate).
...or you could change the pact at-will you chose. Which one do you have?
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I think Bard is a perfectly good fit for Palindrome, fluff-wise. He's clearly an entertainer in the medium of Prestidigitation. He just devises his illusions to entertain himself.
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