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Old 18th October 2009, 06:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question: Intelligent Items

Were intelligent items approved for L4E use?
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Old 19th October 2009, 01:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
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just throwing this out there: could we not be so offensive to the various items in the game, and expand our minds by using the definition "Sentient Magical Items"? There are some pretty dumb items out there, like a +1 Dragonsbane sword, or that sentient girdle of masculinity/femininity no one talks about but everyone knows about (aka "Charismonique" to friends).

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but yeah.

I think in the list of books somewhere there's sentient artifacts. I don't know if intelligent items have been written about in any articles or supplements, tho.
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Old 19th October 2009, 02:05 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Do you mean artifact-level items, or just things like a chatty +1 longsword. I don't see anything wrong with the latter, and I'm pretty sure the former hasn't come up yet.
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Old 19th October 2009, 02:13 AM   #4 (permalink)
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The latter. I want to do something funny (but cool) with one of my PC's...

I think we approved the Dragon magazine with them, right?
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I wouldn't mind artifacts either. The only trouble with them is that they require the DM to 'play along' if they are ported from one adventure to the other.

LFR only allows their use within a single adventure or within a campaign being coordinated by a single DM, where the artifact is required to 'move on' before the adventure/campaign ends.

I do, however, think that when they are tactfully used, they make a story extremely interesting.

As for comical, gabby weapons, have at it. I mean, with Ken, where can you go wrong?
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Old 19th October 2009, 04:24 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I wouldn't mind artifacts either. The only trouble with them is that they require the DM to 'play along' if they are ported from one adventure to the other.

LFR only allows their use within a single adventure or within a campaign being coordinated by a single DM, where the artifact is required to 'move on' before the adventure/campaign ends.

I do, however, think that when they are tactfully used, they make a story extremely interesting.

As for comical, gabby weapons, have at it. I mean, with Ken, where can you go wrong?
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Jokes aside, intelligent items don't sound problematic.
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Old 19th October 2009, 10:54 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I remember reviewing the article in question, and I'm pretty sure that we decided either a) the specific items in it were harmless, and/or b) the guidelines for DMs on creating new ones didn't require voting.

I can't conveniently quote chapter and verse at the moment, but either way, I'm pretty sure you're fine.
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Old 19th October 2009, 05:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Only problem will be once Ken's adventures over, and say the PC ends up in my game, am I expected to RP the intelligent weapon, or should Ken jump into my thread to control the sword, or at the end of his adventure should the weapon lose it's intelligence? Personally, I don't think they're a good idea outside of a contained adventure, because I don't think we should saddle other DM's with having to control a constant NPC.
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I might be wrong, but I read KenHood's comment as pertaining to one of his own PC's and he would be roleplaying the intelligent weapon as a player, not a DM.
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Old 19th October 2009, 08:21 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Anywhere, and everywhere...
Yeah. That was kind of the idea.
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Old 19th October 2009, 08:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Personally, I don't think they're a good idea outside of a contained adventure, because I don't think we should saddle other DM's with having to control a constant NPC.
Yeah. This is what led to the LFR ruling.

In Weldon's case, however, the only stumbling point is mechanics, as always: Fluff can't interfere with mechanics. It'd be interesting to see where this goes in a test case though.
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Old 20th October 2009, 01:02 AM   #12 (permalink)
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The player that I have in mind will probably pick up the personality of the item (not a weapon!) and run with it. It's more for grins-n-giggles, so if the judges are opposed, I won't do it.
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I'm no judge here and the 2 whow are (Cov/THB) expressed no issues with it.
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Old 20th October 2009, 04:52 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Good. Then I'm running with it. I think the player is going to dig it.
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