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Old 19th December 2007, 08:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Proposed: that the Urban Ranger, and its associated Urban Tracking feat, be made approved content

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Old 19th December 2007, 08:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The Urban Ranger seems a good and balanced option to me. I will wait to hear discussion, but I otherwise intend to vote in favour of this.
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Old 19th December 2007, 08:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Looking through the list of differences between the Urban Ranger and the standard Ranger, I think this one gives up no less than it gains, probably a little more (although what it gains is, flavourwise, quite nice). So, I have no balance concerns here. I vote Yes.
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I like the urban ranger as well. I like most of those class variants, in fact. I vote YES.
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Old 19th December 2007, 09:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Well, if two judges can vote yes, without discussion, so can I. YES
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YES

It's a nice variant.

Is Urban Tracking allready approved? if not, it needs to be, but I'll YES that as well.
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Needless but still nice: another Yes.
I think the urban ranger well balanced (maybe even slightly underppowered compared to a regular one) and more important: a great addition in terms of favour.
For the record, I also vote Yes for the urban tracking feat.
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How do Ranger/Urban Ranger class levels interact in a multiclass character? Do they stack for caster level or anything else? Spell lists are different so maybe not.
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One is a variant of the other, so I don't believe you can multiclass Ranger/Urban Ranger, just as you can't combine Cleric and Cloistered Cleric.
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One is a variant of the other, so I don't believe you can multiclass Ranger/Urban Ranger, just as you can't combine Cleric and Cloistered Cleric.
That is correct.
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Oh good. I find myself amused by the thought of two distinct types of ranger. One can find anyone in a city, but step through the gate and oh gods no there are trees everywhere, while the other one can track anyone over a baked earth plain but oh gods the tall buildings it's too scary.

For the ultimate tracker, you could choose whichever Ranger version catches your fancy, then use a regular feat slot for the other tracking feat, and buy one of Survival or Gather Information cross-class. Maybe pick up Lesser Scent in place of the animal companion at 4th, too. Whee.
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That is correct.
While UA doesn't quite agree, I would say that "no variant multiclassing" is the best possible ruling. If a variant and its base class really, really should allow multiclassing with each other, that could be a proposal.
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Old 22nd December 2007, 02:07 AM   #13 (permalink)
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While UA doesn't quite agree, I would say that "no variant multiclassing" is the best possible ruling. If a variant and its base class really, really should allow multiclassing with each other, that could be a proposal.
I'd rather rule no unless specificly cleared. It's safer.
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I'd rather rule no unless specificly cleared. It's safer.
Since that is in opposition to the RAW, it should be a proposal.
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Old 23rd December 2007, 01:43 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Since that is in opposition to the RAW, it should be a proposal.
Not realy, that's a "recomendation". RAW is you can't take the same class twice, and variant of that class is still that class.
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The Urban Ranger variant and Urban Tracking feat have passed now, right?
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The Urban Ranger variant and Urban Tracking feat have passed now, right?
Yes, by 5-0.
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