Though i will say i am completely stumped on Jessica, Nicki, new girl. She can't possibly be the jessica nicky we know because i would assume it would take along time to get to the point of advisor for the governor.
It's been so long I can't remember everything that happened last season, but was Jessica "fixed" - that is, powers removed? Or did she leave "rehab" before that happened? If so, what happens if one gets injected with the formula? Do you get the same power back, or could you manifest a new one?
Were they really experimenting on her in "rehab"? Jessica was last seen in the middle of a massive explosion. Stacie's cold ability might be a power that manifested out of self defense (and the way Jessica's mind already had a coping mechanism for her powers, a new personality was created as well.)
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Well lots to digest. My comments are as follows (In sblock since that seems to be where we are going so far).
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Current Claire: Now there is some trauma for her. I can see how removing feeling from her could turn her evil this season. I did enjoy the healing is a lame power comment. I hope she goes hunting with her dad. From the previews she may have to spend time with Sylar which won’t help her psyche. I am still liking her but the writers need to be careful.
Overall Tim Kring has kept most of his promises to fix Heroes. Other than the Mohinder/Maya storyline this seems to be a good start to season three. I am almost willing to forgive Season 2 and make this a must watch show again. They got at least 4-5 more episodes out of me from these two even if it does go bad again.
I think this situation could bring back the whole don't trust my father routine from the last two season. How do you think she will react when she learns that Sylar and HRG working together
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Tim Kring needs to keep apologizing after that episode, AFAIC.
Hated it. Made no sense, a huge number of despicable characters and actions, and out-and-out moments of idiocy.
It's only worth watching for Hiro and Ando - everyone else has become annoying gits, and Sylar's continued overexposure is going to help stink up the joint.
Edit: And "Save the cheerleader, save the world"? What a load of garbage that turned out to be.
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I liked it. Then, I didn't completely hate Season 2, either, so take from that what you will.
I think Nikki/Jessica/Tracy is/are the same person. I'm beginning to suspect that her power is much the same as Sylar and Peter's; a multi-power. Sylar needs to take his powers from other people, Peter needs to have come into contact with someone to use their power. Maybe N/J/T has to encapsulate each new power with a new personality? She needs to be strong, so she is, but she becomes the dead sister who she felt was the "strong one". She's being burned alive, what does she need? Ice powers. So she creates a frigid "ice queen" personality (although I don't see that in the way she plays the character, but it was said often enough that I guess it's supposed to be the case).
Doesn't explain how she could have gotten in with the governor so quickly...but in a world where super-clandestine organizations have access to folks with mind-control...I suppose anything's possible.
I guess Peter's Irish love has been wrote out of the story.
Would she even technically exist anymore? She was taken from the present and put into a future which never came to be. She doesn't exist in the present anymore because she was taken, but since that future is no more, would it even be possible for Peter to go into the future that doesn't exist to find her? Would she be shunted to the actual future?
I think time travel brings up too many questions and I think bringing back Caitlin? would be too problematic for the time being...
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I think time travel brings up too many questions and I think bringing back Caitlin? would be too problematic for the time being...
It is not just the time travel, it is the alternate time paths...Why would there be a Dark Hiro zapped by Ando, as he came about by Ando's death just a bit strange.
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Loved it. Sylar, Elle, and Noah continue to be my favorites. Be interesting to see this year who steps up to do the right thing and who takes an easier path.
It was okay. The stupidest part was them claiming those other escaped villians were worse then Sylar. Most of the characters though have become blah. There is a story being told and the writers don't seem to care if they have characters do dumb things so long as whatever their story becomes is not effected. That, and the cast is way to big they need to thin the heard.
That, and the cast is way to big they need to thin the heard.
Can we start with Mohinder and Maya. Please Please.
Next would be Sylar and Peter.
Anyway. I agree the cast is too large.
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Can we start with Mohinder and Maya. Please Please.
Next would be Sylar and Peter.
Anyway. I agree the cast is too large.
There is no character that I think the show really needs. There are characters the show thinks it needs like Peter and Hiro and Sylar since it focuses on them. But I have no favorite character which is a real shame and would have no issues with half the characters just stupidly dying in between episodes.
Andy the originator, Mega the drama queen, Mania the insane, Al whom uses movie quotes to connect with the world he did not create, Ugh- primal urges and the only sane one of the group and DarkMania the Sith Lord
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It was okay. The stupidest part was them claiming those other escaped villians were worse then Sylar. Most of the characters though have become blah. There is a story being told and the writers don't seem to care if they have characters do dumb things so long as whatever their story becomes is not effected. That, and the cast is way to big they need to thin the heard.
I think they are "worse" then Syler because unlike Sylar they kill indiscriminately where as Slyar only kills to steal powers and escape capture.
I also agree that they need to thin out the characters and I think it's bad when many people agree on which ones should get the axe. Sadly, since the writers seem to like the concept of deus ex machina and macgruffins I just wonder who will be around to save Heroes's world's future from the Nothing if Peter and Sylar was edited out of the story..
Loved it. Sylar, Elle, and Noah continue to be my favorites. Be interesting to see this year who steps up to do the right thing and who takes an easier path.
Oh, and "What? That's disgusting."
I still hate Sylar, although that was the best line in the two episodes. (Of course he also had the stupidest line about only using 10-20% of the brain's capacity. As someone else said, that well debunked myth needs to be shot in the head. Repeatedly. And the body buried at sea. Wrapped in a few tons of cement.)
Mohindar is my second least favorite. Peter has enough things going on that I don't hate him, but he could easily become another Sylar. And now that Elle's manipulating bastich of a dad is gone she could become one of my favorites.
Thanks to hints in the TV Guide the 'big reveal' regarding Mrs. P. came as no surprise to me. And the prevelence of product placement in shows these days had me wondering if the "You're in good hands" line was there because it belonged or because All State paid for it? (Still a ggod line. But that thought, which popped immediately to mind, lessened it.)
And characters who ought to know better acting like idiots all the time. But a whole lot better than the last season, so I'll stick around for a while, which I hadn't expected to. And nice to see Ali playing a non-nurotic character. So far. (But yeah, how did she get to be such a trusted advisor so quickly? Unless it really isn't Nikki/Jessica. After all, its said that everyone has a twin somewhere. And I didn't see her as an 'ice queen' either, except with regards to her powers.)
One last complaint: Doesn't anyone ever stay dead in this show? I hate it in the comics and I hate it here even more.
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I think Nikki/Jessica/Tracy is/are the same person.
Unless there's time travel going on with her, that's not possible. We first see her coming out of Governor Sheridan's bathroom as Sheridan sees the news about Nathan's miraculous recovery. That's approximately one day after the end of season 2. You don't get to show up and become the governor's aide and mistress in less than 24 hours.
She could be Niki's and Jessica's triplet or something, separated at birth. That's the most reasonably-sounding explanation, as far as I'm concerned.
There is no character that I think the show really needs. There are characters the show thinks it needs like Peter and Hiro and Sylar since it focuses on them. But I have no favorite character which is a real shame and would have no issues with half the characters just stupidly dying in between episodes.
I happen to agree. Everyone's either outrageously powerful or fairly useless. And nobody's terribly smart or organized; Noah Bennet is pretty much as good as it gets.
And how many immortal/regeneration/healer guys do we have running around now? Can anybody be killed anymore?
Speaking of being killed, do you guys think that was Mojinder tearing off Claire's head in the future vision?
I don't tihnk Nathan's mind got fractured at all. I think Nathan started seeing Linderman right when Future Peter showed up - and put it in his head as a means to control his brother and ensure he does not go off script.
It's Parkman's talent going on here; not a Nikki / Jessica fracture.
I disagree with the analysis, but thinking back I think you're on to something. Who were the four in Angela's dream? Niki/Jessica/Tracy, Adam, Knox?, and Maury. My bet is it's Maury, especially given that he's seen Nathan before, and is manipulative. Why else show him in the dream?
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I was pretty sure they had. It was brief and on one of the pages describing them all, but the villian had something to do with sound.
I missed that, and thought that character was someone else. Good catch. I only noticed him in the scene with HRG and Claire, going through the profiles... he mentions the flamethrower, the german (magnetism), and Knox (fear to strength), and says of the fourth, who Peter is trapped in, "you're better off not knowing."
And how many immortal/regeneration/healer guys do we have running around now? Can anybody be killed anymore?
Four regenerators: Sylar, Peter, Adam, and Claire. Sylar and Peter should have the same type of regeneration Claire does, while it's not certain Adam's works the same way.
We've only seen one actual healer on the show as far as I can tell: Linderman. And he's dead, Nathan's delusions notwithstanding.
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No. In Angela's vision, we got a good look at the people who were killing our Heroes off: Adam, Niki/Jessica/Tracy, Maury Parkman, and Knox. Knox is the guy who tears off Claire's head, and he's one of the escapees from level 5. His power is super-strength, boosted by people's fear.
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