To replenish their supplies the crew attempts to harvest water from an ice planet.
Not as good as Light, but enjoyable. I liked the fact that I felt as though anything could happen, and I wasn't sure who might die. Unlike the other Stargate shows, death isn't something reserved for background mooks or very special episodes.
There is probably a bald-on-bald smack down coming up...which begs a question. How are those guys keeping their heads shaved? :P
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I said to myself, "hmm, water, wonder if they'll use the Abyss type route. Nah, we'd expect that". I guess I was half-way right. Little shards of sand/ice/bugs who make faces is pretty close. I wonder if they are the reason the desert planet was a desert. My guess is that Hoth will be consumed like a smorgasbord.
But onto Stargate continuity. Are those suits similar to the suits used by the rogue Asgardians from Stargate Atlantis who were killing the Wraith with the super weapon?
But onto Stargate continuity. Are those suits similar to the suits used by the rogue Asgardians from Stargate Atlantis who were killing the Wraith with the super weapon?
I as wondering about that myself. Not sure.
Would rogue Asgardians fit into the flavor of this show? They would certainly upstage Rush, and being knowledgeable about Destiny is his gimmick. Maybe their influence will be shown, but I don't think they will make an appearance.
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Our first confirmed alien life form! I wonder if we'll see more of them, because it feels pretty unresolved, considering that the aliens seemed to attempt to communicate. (And yes, very "abyss-like")
Also a plus- these aliens are really alien. Not humans bumpy foreheads or exotic hair style.
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I think overall I would like the show better if it was NOT branded w/ the Stargate moniker.
The idea itself is very cool, people stranded on a technological flying dutchman.
The problem is that the show is not attempting to do what the other shows in the franchise have done, and sometimes the disconect is disconcerting.
I was glad the alien made a re-appearance, as the unresolved nature of the alien previously was a pet peeve.
I was also amused by Eli's comment re: the Alien and the water loss being obviously connected....as I was frustrated minutes earlier by the fact that some smart people did not make the logical leap.
As for character deaths.....I think it still fits the Stargate model....has anyone died that was not tele-graphed for death, or a relatively ancillary character....the answer is no.
I hope and kinda of feel the show needs to kill Col Young. I am not enamored of the actor, and in terms effectively dealing with circumstances and Dr. Grumpy Scotsman, the young LT was MUCH better.
Plus it would give some great tension.
The music of the show is a bit jarring, again precisely because SG's in general not a lot of music. The show also has a very low key feel.....things happen but the shows are paced, and plotted in such a way that I never feel tension.....which is very unlike previous SG shows...even SG-1.
As for the suits I too thought they looked like the Asgardian suits, but I chalk that up more to budget and re-using as too any connection.
I am waiting for an alien species that has encounter Destiny to dial aboard.
I wonder if they are the reason the desert planet was a desert.
I was assuming they were just evolved to fit into the desert environment. Obviously anything that lives in a desert will probably hoard water (assuming they need water at all). So I thought they were a product of the desert and not vice versa.
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I was assuming they were just evolved to fit into the desert environment. Obviously anything that lives in a desert will probably hoard water (assuming they need water at all). So I thought they were a product of the desert and not vice versa.
The way I figure it, these aliens evolved in a very arid environment. It makes sense they would have evolved a way to super absorb water so they could maximize any supply they found. I wouldn't be surprised if their desert ecosystem was balanced in some way.
These aliens were taken out of that ecosystem and introduced to an abundant source of water which caused accelerated growth.
There is probably a bald-on-bald smack down coming up...which begs a question.
Yeah, and that guy has it coming. He's a trouble maker. So are some of those scientists, it looks like they're getting more and more paranoid, but they don't seem to understand that Destiny is still pretty much in a crisis situation, and the guys running things don't have sinister motives going on.
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was also amused by Eli's comment re: the Alien and the water loss being obviously connected....as I was frustrated minutes earlier by the fact that some smart people did not make the logical leap.
Eli's ability to think quickly seems to be his greatest strength so far. He has no experience with the Stargates or Ancient tech or anything like that, but he has been able to think outside the box. Learning how to use the Kinos, using the power in the shuttle, and even the Kino sled in this episode.
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As for character deaths.....I think it still fits the Stargate model....has anyone died that was not tele-graphed for death, or a relatively ancillary character....the answer is no.
Because, I don't know, that guy doesn't have a contract for the whole season? There are reasons why they don't bump of the main characters, one is actor contracts, and two, they don't want to irritate too many fans that might actually like the charater.
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I hope and kinda of feel the show needs to kill Col Young. I am not enamored of the actor, and in terms effectively dealing with circumstances and Dr. Grumpy Scotsman, the young LT was MUCH better.
I don't agree. I thought Young was going to die back in the first episode, but he's also the best person to have in command. Scott doesn't have the experince to be a leader, and I don't know if he really has enough focus to take charge yet either. Look how he was too busy spending time with Chloe early in the episode to come to the gate room when ordered. Wray might be able to run things too is necessary, and Young seems to be relying on her at least with the civilians. Rush wouldn't be able to effectively take charge, he's far too anti-social for everyone to respect him, and there's already a great deal of resentment towards him for dialing that 9th chevron instead of Earth.
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I don't think they have enough water; they lost half (or so) of their reserves during the episode, and only brought back one sledful of ice. I don't think it was enough.
I don't think they have enough water; they lost half (or so) of their reserves during the episode, and only brought back one sledful of ice. I don't think it was enough.
The problem was that they were loosing too much of it, now with the alien off the ship; they should be able to maintain some. What I would do, is start setting up away teams for the next few planets - a couple for water gathering, soil gathering (remember those seeds) and food gathering.
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I'm sure they'll give us some exposition in a future episode about their routine for the gathering of basics. So without an actual crisis, I think they'll come up with an appropriate handwave mechanism.
It was an OK episode. It's nice to finally have some action. Eli is definitely stepping up and getting things done. He's a bit immature, but he still makes all the other scientists except Rush look useless.
I like Colonel Young, and think he's the best leader they have, but he puts himself in jeopardy too frequently. He had no business on the ice planet.
As for water problems, they've already mentioned the ship's water recycling system. Once they get that up and running, it shouldn't be a major problem.
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As for water problems, they've already mentioned the ship's water recycling system. Once they get that up and running, it shouldn't be a major problem.
Right. I get the picture that they have a closed system. The water shouldn't go anywhere except back and forth between the ship and people's bodies. The problem was that due to the desert alien they were having a net loss of water. In a closed system like the ship the amount of water should always remain relatively the same. They might need more to be comfortable, but they can probably survive on their remaining water and that sledful of ice.
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It was an OK episode. It's nice to finally have some action. Eli is definitely stepping up and getting things done. He's a bit immature, but he still makes all the other scientists except Rush look useless.
I think another of Eli's strengths is going to be related to morale somehow. He seems to be maintaining a relatively positive outlook in spite of the grim situation, and because both the civilians and miliary personnel seem to get along with him, he might end up helping keep everyones spirits up or something.
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I like Colonel Young, and think he's the best leader they have, but he puts himself in jeopardy too frequently. He had no business on the ice planet.
He seems to be the type of commander that doesn't ask people to do something he's not willing to do himself. He's going to have to balance that out with sending people on missions who are more expendable without seeming indifferent to what happens to them either.
With all of his comments that he had experience with ice and stuff, I thought he was going to say something like he enjoys ice fishing.
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Was not it mentioned that only Young and Scott were the only 2 who could actually use the suits properly? Im sure I heard something like that spoken.
As for the Suit design. Yes it is a reuse of the 'Dark Asgard' suit from the last season of Atlantis, which may tell viewers about the origins of that piece of Asgard technology. I know it was a deliberate reuse of the suit, not a reuse of some old wardrobe props.
Now that the ship has 40 percent of its total power levels, it should be interesting to see what other parts of the ship they will be able to access.
Was not it mentioned that only Young and Scott were the only 2 who could actually use the suits properly? Im sure I heard something like that spoken.
Not sure about that but I seem to recall them not both going on the shuttle together last episode because Young didn't want to risk them both as the only two pilots, no?
Was not it mentioned that only Young and Scott were the only 2 who could actually use the suits properly? Im sure I heard something like that spoken.
No, when Col. Young tells Lt. Scott that they're going together, Scott mentions someone else who has done EVA before. Even if they had been the only two, it would still make more sense to go over the basics with another soldier and send him/her with Scott. Young's injuries made him a physical liability on the mission. There is also no reason to send the two highest ranking people on a risky mission together. Once Young decided to go himself, he should have chosen someone else to go with him.
Of course it's a TV series, and they wanted to give the leads time in front of the camera.
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No, when Col. Young tells Lt. Scott that they're going together, Scott mentions someone else who has done EVA before. Even if they had been the only two, it would still make more sense to go over the basics with another soldier and send him/her with Scott. Young's injuries made him a physical liability on the mission. There is also no reason to send the two highest ranking people on a risky mission together. Once Young decided to go himself, he should have chosen someone else to go with him.
Of course it's a TV series, and they wanted to give the leads time in front of the camera.
Still, they should be at least having people in the suits training, they will be using them for possible ship repairs and such!
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