Another nitpick: 3 Weeks and the USA already allows civilians on an alien starship?
I suspect if this was playing in Germany, it would take 3 months to have written down the legal code to cover the visit to alien starships. Maybe that's why no Spaceships are shown over Berlin or Munich. The Aliens advance infiltration groups just didn't get the legalese worked out ready, so they decided that Paris had to suffice for continental Europe.
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Some would, but a lot wouldn't. I can't believe most governments wouldn't come to the conclusion that the Visitors are a threat. There isn't much they can do, but they would be covertly preparing for hostile action. I also believe they would be doing their best to limit direct contact with the Visitors.
If they were free to act, and uninfluenced, yes. The implication is that the Visitors have already been around for some time, and have operatives in high positions (we've seen on FBI, we can presume others).
So, I expect they intend that the takeover of national governments is well underway.
If they were free to act, and uninfluenced, yes. The implication is that the Visitors have already been around for some time, and have operatives in high positions (we've seen on FBI, we can presume others).
So, I expect they intend that the takeover of national governments is well underway.
That opens up the kettle of fish of trying to infiltrate or replace people in the government, military, and media without getting noticed.
The safest way for infiltrators would be to go into the organisations at the bottom, and work their way up. This would take years. It would mean that your agents in the military and law enforcement face discovery whenever they are injured or killed. Hmm, agent/soldier Joe Bob why are you all scaley under your skin? Civilian organisations would be easier to infiltrate, but still very time consuming. You can try to infiltrate with a completely bogus persona and background to start at higher level jobs, but this would be hard to hide from discovery in jobs with security/background checks.
Replacing real people with duplicates would allow agents to get into very high positions quickly. It's also a lot more likely to be discovered as people would notice the changes in behavior and absence of knowledge about things the real person would know.
They Visitors should have no need of the human media, as that would be one of the easiest organisations to infiltrate. Strangely Anna seems to have picked a real human reporter for her first interview.
I'll be quiet now. I really liked the pilot episode. I'm just the kind of person that critiques just about everything, even if I like it. I just wish TV/movie industry worked harder to think through their plots and close loopholes.
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That opens up the kettle of fish of trying to infiltrate or replace people in the government, military, and media without getting noticed.
The safest way for infiltrators would be to go into the organisations at the bottom, and work their way up. This would take years. It would mean that your agents in the military and law enforcement face discovery whenever they are injured or killed. Hmm, agent/soldier Joe Bob why are you all scaley under your skin? Civilian organisations would be easier to infiltrate, but still very time consuming. You can try to infiltrate with a completely bogus persona and background to start at higher level jobs, but this would be hard to hide from discovery in jobs with security/background checks.
Replacing real people with duplicates would allow agents to get into very high positions quickly. It's also a lot more likely to be discovered as people would notice the changes in behavior and absence of knowledge about things the real person would know.
They Visitors should have no need of the human media, as that would be one of the easiest organisations to infiltrate. Strangely Anna seems to have picked a real human reporter for her first interview.
I'll be quiet now. I really liked the pilot episode. I'm just the kind of person that critiques just about everything, even if I like it. I just wish TV/movie industry worked harder to think through their plots and close loopholes.
You replace people who wouldn't be missed (a lot) and infiltrate organizations and install pliable humans into positions of 'real' power. Some people have found out that there are aliens among 'us', but they get killed quickly (and quite efficiently).
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It's ok, I was hoping for a complete re imagining and it seems to be fast forwarding to the origiinal. It just doesn't have the intelligence of a battlestar gallatica. Its certainly not set in a time where we've had a sci-fi rennasiance. In a world post shows like x-files, stargate and star trekk, independance day, we'd be real suspiscious of aliens hovering over popular planets. Just as we pose questions about "water" and "how they knew our major cities" and how they learned our languages (even the obscure ones), they should be posing them in the show.
If they wanted to go down the path they are going now, theyd have been better off starting off at the point of the resistance, and forewarding through the v-invasion and such. This way, they can just write explain away what naturally would have been decades of mistrust, minor wars and eventually compliance. Instead, I feel like we're going to have to indure rehashed storylines and a show that will eventually go nowhere.
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I'm with you. There are people against the visitors, it seems, but they're very generic. Disappointing so far, though good enough to still watch for a bit.
The whole "can't trust the government, have to start the resistance ourselves" seems a little forced. It's been at least a decade since I watched the original, but it seems like they carried that bit off better.
So far, it's pretty meh; and I like most of the cast.
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The whole "can't trust the government, have to start the resistance ourselves" seems a little forced. It's been at least a decade since I watched the original, but it seems like they carried that bit off better.
So far, it's pretty meh; and I like most of the cast.
The cast is definitely a strength of the show. Generally speaking, they do a good job. I have a hard time seeing Wash from Firefly as evil, though. I keep waiting for hiim to say, "I think we should call it...your grave, ha ha ha...mine is an evil laugh."
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If they were free to act, and uninfluenced, yes. The implication is that the Visitors have already been around for some time, and have operatives in high positions (we've seen on FBI, we can presume others).
I have a feeling the Pope is also a visitor. The priest did comment on the how he thought the Church accepted them as creatures of God too quickly.
As for the FBI agent, I am glad he was outed already. I could not take Steve the pirate seriously as an FBI agent.
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Well, it limits official asking of questions, which is not the same thing.
My point is that they can tell the truth (or at least more truth), and have it raise fewer questions. "We spent the last year in transit listening to your radio and TV broadcasts, learning your languages. We are so happy to finally meet you," rather than, "We only learned about your existence *today*", which just isn't very credible.
Quite simple - it is a bit of shoddyness in the writing. Not unexpected.
While normally, I would agree with this, but we know they have been here for a long time (how long? I don't think it has been revealed or I missed it), and would have learned all these things they claim they can do, what with their advanced technology and supposed higher degrees of insight.
But, yes, if they claim they just met... that's far fetched to believe, but it makes them even MORE scary and godlike. Only weeks and you can cure 65 of our primary ills? That is a lot to swallow, and for the masses, tough to ignore.
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I can't remember who said it... but a PERSON is smart, resourceful and capable of individual insights. But PEOPLE are dumb, mob-like and will believe anything.
Tommy Lee Jones in Men In Black...a movie that is amusingly about aliens living among us in secret.
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Yes, that is true, but I was thinking about a more ancient philosophical or ideological quip, as I am sure someone before the MiB writers came up with it first.
But the funny parallels with V are humorous.
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I have a feeling the Pope is also a visitor. The priest did comment on the how he thought the Church accepted them as creatures of God too quickly.
Or someone like that. I had guessed that (at the least) the local high priest was a plant, an Undercover V. Maybe not the Pope, but an influential upstart cardinal or something would be more interesting. Someone with growth potential for a few seasons.
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I really liked the pilot episode. I'm just the kind of person that critiques just about everything, even if I like it. I just wish TV/movie industry worked harder to think through their plots and close loopholes.
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