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  • Aldarc's Avatar
    Today, 08:51 AM
    I'm sorry. I misspoke in my glib. It is less a "debate" and more like a "Big Ole Can-o-Worms" that has involved many of the same people in this thread. Here is probably the most famous 250+ page leviathan: What is *Worldbuilding* For? Be careful. It gets ugly in there and diverges often from the central thread points.
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    Today, 08:32 AM
    Yes, it is, and have a nice day. :D I'm glad you like it, since I would say that "neat setting concept" is the implied, baseline default setting of D&D. :D When you look at the rules and nature of the implied world, I would say that the world and everything it is naturally magical, but not to equally significant degrees. And so that would represent your conception of your world as...
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    Yesterday, 03:42 PM
    Ah, but it is true. The world of D&D presumes that said world is inherently magical. Some things may have more magic than others, but that does not mean that everything is mundane and devoid of magic by our sensibilities. It is a world influenced by other planes of existence and you can use portals in the world to traverse them. The stars may have a bearing on the fate of mortals. The world may...
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    Yesterday, 11:08 AM
    "I felt a great disturbance in the Thread, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, 'Oh Heavens, not this debate again.'"
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    Yesterday, 09:55 AM
    That entire world in D&D is presumed magical. You are trying to apply a modernist mindset that distinguishes between the mundane and the magical to a world that presumes a premodern worldview wherein the supernatural, magical, and irrational are infused into everything of the cosmos. Everything. In such a worldview, whether you are playing 0E-5E, there is no "just a mundane person" in this world....
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  • Hussar's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:23 AM
    I suppose it depends on the viewer really. A table that lets you declare hits, for example, isnít cheating by your definition since the table agrees. But they certainly arenít playing by the rules either. Are they cheating or not? From their perspective probably not. But from any outside observer? Iíd say yes they are.
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    Yesterday, 05:20 AM
    Given the plethora of healing available in 5e, I donít think it would be unreasonable to think that combat evolves a bit and hacking downed targets becomes a lot more viable of a tactic.
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    Yesterday, 05:18 AM
    Iíd say that as far as kitbash stuff goes, either will get the job done. Once you know the syntax that either program uses, itís likely about equal.
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    Wednesday, 18th July, 2018, 07:26 PM
    Sorry Lanefan (yes, that is the sort of reply I was looking for) and @ Emerikol . Iíll get back to your guysí responses as soon as I can. Pretty tied up. Yup, I was referring to Blades (also, I think you may have a different copy than mine because mine is H1 -H4; Lesser, Moderate, Severe, Fatal...no H5!)! Death Spiral is certainly a concern (because itís not fun and not genre coherent)....
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    Wednesday, 18th July, 2018, 04:10 PM
    But what I appreciate about Fate in this regard is Stress and Consequences. Stress is not a traditional HP system, but is, instead, a more transparent about being a pacing mechanism representing your ability to remain in the action or scene. But you can potentially stay in the action longer if you choose to take Consequences that follow from the fiction: e.g., sprained ankle, publicly humiliated,...
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    Wednesday, 18th July, 2018, 03:06 PM
    I would wager that the intent represents the sort of play that the game rules were designed to support and engender. Often nowadays, the writers will state their intent in the game book. Savage Worlds, for example, uses the slogan "Fast! Furious! Fun!" to describe its intended playstyle that harkens to its desire to simulate pulp action adventures through its gameplay. Ideally, the rules as...
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    Wednesday, 18th July, 2018, 12:31 PM
    (1) It was an example of a potential solution, but I have no doubt that you could create such a solution that was more appropriate to your sensibilities. (2) I don't think that this interpretation necessarily needs to be understood as "magic." Ki, for me, is simply some form of latent energy (e.g., life? psionic? etc.) that permeates the world or life therein. The fighter may be "non-magical"...
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    Tuesday, 17th July, 2018, 10:10 PM
    I definitely agree. Take Blades in the Dark, for example. Itís has 3 phases of play: Free Play Score Downtime Each of those are effectively ďscenesĒ or multiple scenes. However, only in certain cases (eg the GM deployment of a Clock or Opposing Clocks - very much kindred to 4e) will scene resolution be cemented in mechanically (rather than ďorganicallyĒ).
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    Tuesday, 17th July, 2018, 09:46 PM
    A Beholder would likely sing "Hungry Eyes" by Eric Carmen. Then again, they could sing about Betty Davis eyes...like literally having them, I suppose... "I Only Have Eyes For You?"
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    Tuesday, 17th July, 2018, 07:17 PM
    @MwaO Iím not sure what youíre disagreeing with in my post. Can you hone in on the aspect youíre disagreeing with? Are you saying that you donít believe there are inherent advantages to having closed scene resolution machinery player-facing or there arenít inherent disadvantages to making the situation only GM facing? If you feel that way, could you maybe talk about other scene-based...
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    Tuesday, 17th July, 2018, 05:03 PM
    Quite the thread! Surprised I didnít notice it before. Just a few quick thoughts in relation to pemerton Ďs post on player-facing Skill Challenges . Iíve long been an advocate of transparency (including making everything player-facing) in mechanical archetecture of scene-based games. While 4e is a fiction-first RPG like Apocalypse World, it is not a free form RPG like AW. Itís more...
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  • Aldarc's Avatar
    Tuesday, 17th July, 2018, 02:25 PM
    Probably the adjective "draconian." It's more complicated than that. At the outset, you asserted that certain mechanics of the fighter were metagame mechanics. Those were controversial claims. People naturally disputed that they were as they do rationalize these mechanics from in-character perspectives. It does not constitute metagame for them even from your provided definition. But you also...
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    Tuesday, 17th July, 2018, 11:56 AM
    Goblins in Pathfinder are noteworthy singers, and several adventures print some of their songs.
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  • Hussar's Avatar
    Tuesday, 17th July, 2018, 11:07 AM
    I'm not explaining myself well enough. It's not that FG is a bad program. It isn't. It does what it says on the tin, by and large. But, for 130 dollars I expect a HELL of a lot more than what it does.
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  • Aldarc's Avatar
    Tuesday, 17th July, 2018, 10:23 AM
    Incidentally, I don't think that "fail forward," "near success," or "success-at-a-cost" are contradictory in play, as one could implement all methods within the same game. "Success-at-a-cost," for example, is often a player-facing choice where the player decides that success is necessary and worth the risk of the cost. "Fail forward" is a GM-facing technique about interpreting the failure of die...
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    Tuesday, 17th July, 2018, 09:26 AM
    This is just false equivalence. It is fine and great to have a preferred taste for Actor stance. Where I take issue here is in the pragmatics of saying that you want 100 percent Actor stance to the exclusion of Author and Director. (Well that and the idea that in-character-speak roleplay should be preferred.) Though I disagree with Lanefan's position on in-character roleplay as the...
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  • Hussar's Avatar
    Tuesday, 17th July, 2018, 03:27 AM
    Now, that is very true. The Fantasy Grounds community rocks on toast. They really are fantastic.
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  • Hussar's Avatar
    Tuesday, 17th July, 2018, 02:57 AM
    Sure, you can make it easier and organize things. Totally agree. Doesn't change the point that each of those pictures take about five steps in order to use. As compared to drag and drop which every other VTT does. One other issue to bear in mind too is the ability to port forward on your router. This has been an issue for me since my router doesn't support port forwarding, requiring me...
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  • Aldarc's Avatar
    Tuesday, 17th July, 2018, 12:41 AM
    (1) Pawn is a separate stance that the blog author details. (2) Playing a role when acting often does involve role switching as the actor is an interlocutor of the character. The director has a sense of character. The author has a sense of character. The actor has a sense of character. Neither director, author, nor actor inherently has a sense of character as pawn. This is why I find such...
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  • Hussar's Avatar
    Tuesday, 17th July, 2018, 12:32 AM
    I went with the 130 dollars that you insisted on quoting. For the sake of argument. It is about 300 dollars to run a 5e full featured game. But, fair enough, you do get a lot of bang for your buck for that second 150 bucks. I'll agree with that. But, you do kinda gloss over the steps needed to load an image. 1. Download the image to your computer and place it into the right folder...
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  • Aldarc's Avatar
    Monday, 16th July, 2018, 03:22 PM
    You may be more fixated on his use of "railroad" here - likely due to its pejorative connotation - but keep in mind that the "/" designates "and or," with the first element in that phrase being "GM-driven play" and I would personally place greater emphasis in what pemerton said on that than "railroad." I would estimate that a lot of GM-driven play does entail "being stuck at a door," because it...
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  • Aldarc's Avatar
    Monday, 16th July, 2018, 02:51 PM
    Which you could also do from an Authorial or Directorial stance. These are not necessarily contradictory stances, as it were, when it comes to the expectation of "acting like a real person." But my point was that the social contract of expected play (e.g., "please go along with the GM's adventure that they put work into," or "my character is being too disruptive to the enjoyment of other...
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  • Aldarc's Avatar
    Monday, 16th July, 2018, 08:41 AM
    Sure, but the problem IMHO is that I think that 100 percent pure Actor Stance is an inherent impossibility. In the context of theatrical drama, the Actor is a also a part-time Author and Director. The Actor is interpreting the character, but that interpretation will be guided by their own Authorial sense. And we may take "Authorial sense" here as a conglomeration of the Actor's understanding of...
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  • Hussar's Avatar
    Monday, 16th July, 2018, 06:04 AM
    Like I said, for the price, fantasy grounds should be a hell of a lot better than it is. To give an example, the number of steps required to add something as simple as a single image is a bad joke. Find the pic, download it to your computer in the correct directory. Go back into fg find the file through the images tab, hope that you know the file name because good luck finding it otherwise....
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    Monday, 16th July, 2018, 12:27 AM
    I use Fantasy Grounds, but, I have to admit, I really have a love/hate relationship with it. Sure, as a DM, you get fantastic tools. Really great stuff for getting up and running. On the downside though, it's unbelievably expensive for what you get. I mean, an ultimate license is going to run you 150 bucks, another 150 bucks (maybe 100 depending on the discounts you get) for the core...
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  • Aldarc's Avatar
    Sunday, 15th July, 2018, 11:03 PM
    Haven't your issues been mostly addressed already by Bawylie? Haven't others and I not already provided you with other possible alternative systems to look into for your purposes? I'll admit that it is difficult for me to find much gusto for the original thread topic anymore when you speak rudely and insultingly to me for disagreeing with your definition of metagaming. It zaps a lot of good will...
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    Sunday, 15th July, 2018, 06:20 PM
    Just like raging. ;)
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    Sunday, 15th July, 2018, 06:14 PM
    As it turns out, such pacing is called getting your "second wind."
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    Sunday, 15th July, 2018, 05:24 PM
    And if you can control when you rage, why can't you control when you summon upon your reserves for a Second Wind? This mechanic reminds me of athletes who pace themselves and who know that they have reserves that they can draw upon for bursts of short-term energy.
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  • Manbearcat's Avatar
    Sunday, 15th July, 2018, 12:23 PM
    Emerikol (and Lanefan and perhaps Saelorn ), you (and Lanefan) answered my question with a response about the implications on the gameplay paradigm; eg ďit would make it more lethal.Ē This thread is about ďmetagame mechanicsĒ and players making decisions based exclusively on (what you perceive as) observable phenomenon (biological, physical) from the characterís perspective. Iím looking for...
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    Saturday, 14th July, 2018, 01:39 PM
    I donít want to dig down too deeply into the rest of the hacking required, because I was trying to solicit solely the visceral reaction from Emerikol . Iím inthe same camp as Ratskinner ; the reaction to one type of mechanics or information organization versus another is primarily because of familiarity or the internalization of a set of stuff into a mental framework that youíve settled into...
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  • Hussar's Avatar
    Saturday, 14th July, 2018, 10:09 AM
    I think this, more than anything is why you rarely see groups hiring. And in my experience dms as well hate the idea. Too much paperwork.
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  • Aldarc's Avatar
    Friday, 13th July, 2018, 11:30 PM
    It seems absurd to say this when this is on the same level as, "Hey, I'm going to cast one of my level 4 spells, and then I will be out of spell slots of that level." The resource management of Vancian casting is simply part of the metagame. Call it a "necessary evil" if you like, but let's face it: metagaming is an intrinsic part of the D&D spell system. Again, lipstick on a pig. But it...
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  • Aldarc's Avatar
    Friday, 13th July, 2018, 10:16 PM
    The character can know about lots of things that would still nevertheless constitute metagaming. The character can "know" that they still have a single Second Wind available. The character can "know" that they have one level-one spell left. The character can "know" the placement of allies and foes in combat despite the fact that the character is operating from the players have a tactical...
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    Friday, 13th July, 2018, 07:09 PM
    Part of the issue is that the entire vancian magic system works in the meta economy of spell slots and levels where you can cast X number of times per day. I usually prefer magic as "skill" rolls/checks (e.g., Blue Rose, True20). Keep casting until you fatigue yourself. This would also be fantastic for a fail-forward or success-with-a-cost subsystem. So the caster could "fail" the ability...
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  • Aldarc's Avatar
    Friday, 13th July, 2018, 09:42 AM
    Have you even been paying attention to our conversation? :confused: IMHO, this is the metagame that the player does as part of the "strategic play" of the game. If you want to say that Vancian casting is 'magic,' then we may as well call Fate points 'fate.'
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  • Manbearcat's Avatar
    Friday, 13th July, 2018, 04:02 AM
    Emerikol, let me pose you a question. I'm not sure you've ever GMed or played under the following paradigm, so let me lay it out. Try to conceive of simply switching out the HP model from your current game for a low overhead system that handles it in fictional terms that also intersect with action resolution (what action declarations might be permissible, what may be penalized). It looks...
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    Thursday, 12th July, 2018, 02:44 PM
    I had a Bladesinger in my Out of the Abyss campaign...I can see some of the criticisms around this class and how it can be construed as over-powered or over-shadowing the melee classes. However, I would like to explain how I was able to overcome this. First of all, their damage does not scale as well as a similar level melee class. They get a maximum of 2 attacks (3 if they are hasted),...
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    Thursday, 12th July, 2018, 02:35 PM
    Divination. I see that "Whoever wins initiative" has the most votes. Well, with a diviner, it's likely that one of their portents will allow them to win initiative. On top of that, it's likely that one of their portents will allow the Diviner to inflict a failed save on one of their spells, particularly if it's a save-or-suck spell.
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  • Aldarc's Avatar
    Thursday, 12th July, 2018, 10:05 AM
    Such as? I'm a fan of Numenera, and I have been looking over the just-released-to-backers Numenera 2: Discovery and Destiny the past few days. It's probably in my top 3 favorite settings ever created. Though I like the Cypher system, I don't love it, and there are a few things that sometimes frustrate me when it comes to character creation and customization. But I sometimes think that comes...
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    Wednesday, 11th July, 2018, 01:39 PM
    Truth of the matter is that I do not know what new attributes I would create, because I also think such things would depend on my design goals for the system, and I have not created a new system yet. I would prefer attributes/abilities with distinct and clear non-overlapping functionality, and I agree with Angry DM that this is where D&D's Big Six fails hard. (This is also part of my...
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    Wednesday, 11th July, 2018, 06:51 AM
    This definition kinda begs the question, and I don't think that your assertion here is true. Yes. Does it matter? The point is not those. If you were forced to create attributes that were not the Big Six (or the Big Six renamed), what attributes would you create or use? (So no "they are perfect as they" are non-answers.)
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    Tuesday, 10th July, 2018, 12:44 PM
    Yeah, it's often just basic minor things like "the character knew a widow exists in this village" or even "Player 2 helped Player 1 defend themselves from being attacked by a ghost." Though if you don't have ghosts in your campaign, I'm sure you could just replace the word 'ghost' with 'rabid badger' or something. Blending player and character engagement is practically the definition of all...
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    Monday, 9th July, 2018, 04:19 PM
    Your rude, condescending tone that reeking of one-true-wayism you have been repeatedly called out for using for starters. Or maybe comments like this: Were we not supposed to bask in awe at your experience and expertise as you toot your own horn? Theirs or yours? :erm: Perhaps if you want people to be receptive to the sagacity of your arguments, you should work on your tone and how you...
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    Monday, 9th July, 2018, 12:20 PM
    It's similar with Beyond the Wall. However, BtW is more young adult oriented. It takes inspiration from the novels of Ursula LeGuin (Earthsea), Lloyd Alexander (Chronicles of Prydain), Tolkien (The Hobbit), and arguably the first few books of Robert Jordan (Wheel of Time), where it is often about relatively young heroes exploring beyond the bounds of their lifelong homes and grow into heroes....
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    Sunday, 8th July, 2018, 11:50 AM
    My take-away reading was the opposite here, though we likely refer to the same phenomenon. For me, this system makes world creation necessary - as in the process necessarily transpires - because it partially happens through the character creation process via playbooks. The major strength of this system is that it 1) alleviates some of the world-creation process from the GM, 2) it connects PCs to...
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    Saturday, 7th July, 2018, 10:13 AM
    Have you looked into any of my TTRPG recommendations yet? I also have another: Beyond the Wall and Other Adventures. It combines Basic/1e OSR and more contemporary game design.
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  • Hussar's Avatar
    Saturday, 7th July, 2018, 04:08 AM
    Loads of emotion and personal stakes? Oh, noes, I have to get my multi-billion dollar company back because, if I don't, I'll only be the chosen one savior. Gee, yeah, totally see the stakes there. Like I said, the bad guy is a smarmy businessman who isn't actually all that wrong. Danny as CEO is a financial disaster. Like I said, the stakes are totally unimportant. If Danny fails, he's...
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    Friday, 6th July, 2018, 03:56 AM
    But, I think that's what makes Jessica Jones and Daredevil much better shows. Sure, JJ is an alcoholic, but, it's never "let slide" in the show. It's destructive as all get out. Watching JJ implode is a big part of what makes the show good. Same with Daredevil. His self-destructive tendencies cause so much of the plot. It's a big old dose of catharsis. And, there's the other point. ...
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  • Aldarc's Avatar
    Thursday, 5th July, 2018, 02:54 PM
    I have apparently missed it again because I do not see here where you state it. So what is your point here? That combat frequently involves death, killing, and violence? Is your grandstanding point really that insipid?
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    Thursday, 5th July, 2018, 12:56 AM
    Very good post here. I think each discrete part is very salient. I think the first part happens to be a big component of these conversations because a great many D&D players seem to have internalized an AD&D rules paradigm as representing something like the actual mental overhead that is going on in physical, hand-to-hand combat...when they, in all likelihood, have never engaged in actual...
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    Wednesday, 4th July, 2018, 11:38 PM
    Mustrum_Ridcully - you're spoiler tags don't work. Just finished the series. The season finale was not what I was expecting, although, to be fair, it's foreshadowed quite a few times in earlier episodes. Much more low key. For a show about an invulnerable strong guy, there are surprisingly few actual fights in the show. I'm still mulling over whether I really like the season, or if I'm...
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  • Aldarc's Avatar
    Wednesday, 4th July, 2018, 02:20 PM
    Indeed. If HP truly represented flesh, meat, or bodily wounds, then we can only conclude that as player characters level-up they gain more mass in flesh.
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    Wednesday, 4th July, 2018, 02:07 PM
    This seems presumptuous, though disputing your claim opens up further conversation that I doubt would be particularly productive for our mutual purposes here. Thank you, though I do think that you implying that Fate is a "metagame style rpg" comes across as belittling. But I am also arguing that metagaming is a core and inescapable part of gaming.* There are metagaming mechanics that you find...
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    Wednesday, 4th July, 2018, 11:32 AM
    Is there much of a point to miss? On one hand, you seem to be arguing that death happens in roleplaying games, which is a banal argument to make. On the other hand, you are arguing that death "IS the point of combat," which is demonstrably false and any time someone provides counter-examples and counter-opinions, you cast your net wider. I suspect that there are reasons to make 'em less...
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    Wednesday, 4th July, 2018, 04:55 AM
    Heck pcs having standard hps are the norm in 5e. And, Rand hps for monsters so I can fudge is a pretty weak argument from my POV.
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  • Hussar's Avatar
    Tuesday, 3rd July, 2018, 09:57 PM
    Wait, what? I live in a polytheistic country - Japan. And, I'm going to tell you right now that there ARE standardized rituals, and uniforms for priests and standardized holy days in Shinto. I'm not sure what kind of polytheism you are thinking of, but, most religions, whether mono or polytheistic, have pretty standardized rituals and holy days and easily recognizable priesthoods.
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    Tuesday, 3rd July, 2018, 01:36 PM
    Ovinomancer , TwoSix , @ anyone else... I feel like digging down really deeply on the TLJ/4E tradition deviation comparison may (a) not be something that anyone else in this thread cares about and (b) while works into 4eís ďessenceĒ, it may push the bounds of threadcrapping (and my next response would be long). What do you guys think? Anyone else care about that topic?
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    Tuesday, 3rd July, 2018, 12:59 PM
    I hope you don't presume here that my PCs don't. :erm: It is inherently a fool's errand. You are correct that "it's easier to play true to character if what you know as a player matches what you know as a character," but this is striving after wind. There is an inherent disconnect and power imbalance between player and character knowledge that Neonchameleon overviews quite well. So for me...
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    Tuesday, 3rd July, 2018, 09:25 AM
    Counterpoint: The theatrical trailer for Babe reveals that he will succeed as a sheepherding pig and that some grand audience will cheer for him. So yeah, we know but are presumably watching anyway. I don't think anyone is necessarily advocating the complete removal of death for the PCs. The issue raised by Vincent Baker is having uncertain outcomes serve as the primary method of creating...
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    Monday, 2nd July, 2018, 05:02 PM
    Well, personally, I didnít think 4e had much in the way of problems with its skill set up. In 4e noncombat conflict resolution and stunting, there are only a few relevant parts to action resolution and micro-story-progression when it comes to characters: 1) Can this PC realize their archetype through play (conflict framing > action resolution > story output)? 2) Through the realization...
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    Monday, 2nd July, 2018, 03:30 PM
    Of note is Armor of Agathys for the Bladelock. In my Tomb of Annihilation game, our bladelock uses this spell (only able to cast 2 spells at 5th level, which is often Armor of Agathys and Hex or Hellish Rebuke depending on the situation) to devastating effect when fighting mobs with either multi-attack or multiple mobs. With 15 temps and inflicting 15 damage each time he's hit (until the temps...
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    Monday, 2nd July, 2018, 02:19 PM
    I am a big fan of Fate, including aspects and fate points, but I recognize that it is not for everyone. So if you just like fudge dice and skill trees, then perhaps you should look into Fudge. There is a reason those dice you love are called "fudge dice" after all. Buf if you enjoy game design analysis as a "gamer junky" then I would recommend reading The Book of Hanz, which is a series of...
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    Monday, 2nd July, 2018, 01:04 PM
    I'm not sure if I would say that he "hates bonus actions," but he has voiced dissatisfaction with how they work: Most definitely.
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    Monday, 2nd July, 2018, 12:21 PM
    Hussar started a thread What no Luke Cage love?
    Havenít finished the series yet but Iím liking it a lot more than the first season. Tighter story and better characters. Two thumbs up.
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    Monday, 2nd July, 2018, 11:45 AM
    You are presenting death as the ends of combat, but I find that death, even in combat, is not an end but a means. Hypothesis: The main point of most combat in RPGs is not the risk of death. Most RPGs, including many D&D, frame combat as an obstacle to the goals of the PC for them to overcome (e.g., proceeding to the next room, retrieving the item/person, the countdown clock, etc.). Combat...
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    Sunday, 1st July, 2018, 06:16 PM
    Sorry for the delay in getting back. Alright, so my thoughts: I definitely agree with TwoSix's first thought above: a) "I imagine there's a decent correlation between those who disliked 4e and those who disliked TLJ for the same reasons; it didn't match their expectations of what "D&D" or "Star Wars" should be." I also saw on the TLJ thread on these boards that there are...
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    Sunday, 1st July, 2018, 06:08 AM
    Ahh, then the third installment must have been when WotC took over Dungeon, but hadn't converted to 4e yet. Thanks!
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    Saturday, 30th June, 2018, 04:21 AM
    There is a significant range between "clerics never act like anything other than fighters with a spell list" and "clerics must have daily/hourly rituals which must be detailed out." I would just like to see cleric (and paladin and druid) players actually acknowledge that they have a patron diety once in a while and do anything at the table to make that part of the game.
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    Friday, 29th June, 2018, 11:30 PM
    Not quite. I'm saying that the D&D 3e engine (i.e., the d20 System) essentially remains the core of many systems, such as D&D 4-5e, Pathfinder, 13th Age, Shadow of the Demon Lord, etc. But that core 3e skeleton has its flaws, shortcomings, and pitfalls. But how do you address those flaws? 4e was one such response, and one underrated in its influence. Pathfinder (aka "3.75e") kept closer to...
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    Friday, 29th June, 2018, 11:27 PM
    Trying to track down some Dungeon PDFs from before it went completely digital. I used to own the hardcopy of two, before they were lost in a move, and I know the third one was in Dungeon issue #50, which was posted on WotC's site in PDF form. The specific adventures are the Victor St. Demaine 3 parter, set in Eberron. If anyone knows how to get ahold of these easily, I'd appreciate it. A...
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    Friday, 29th June, 2018, 09:48 AM
    As per the article and my own experience? Not so much. If you only picked up the 3.0 and 3.5 PHB? I could definitely see that. But in the context of the post-3.5 PHB publishing cycle? You could definitely see the trend towards 4e, and there was already a call for portions of the design philosophy of 4e. And though Pathfinder fans would loathe to admit it, such voices were still prominent in their...
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    Thursday, 28th June, 2018, 03:57 PM
    @Pauper Iím doing a poor job of communicating. There is clearly a large outcry over TLJ from SW traditionalists/the base. Iím not referring to them. Iím invoking a specific cross-section of folks who: 1) Identify as part of the SW base.
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    Thursday, 28th June, 2018, 03:47 PM
    My take is that DMG1 didnít have nearly a clear enough voice (while DMG2, design articles, and Dungeon articles were all very consistent) . There was an editor problem or a ďtoo many cooks in the kitchenĒ problem with the writing/handling of various chapters and instruction. While myself and others saw it clearly in various 4e game tech and instruction, there are many others who didnít see it....
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    Thursday, 28th June, 2018, 02:28 PM
    Ted Serious Thank you for the response, but perhaps the thrust of my post wasnít clear (as your response doesnít hook into it). I was commenting on the curiosity of the non-universal application of the ďdonít piss off your traditionalist baseĒ axiom. 4e was routinely decried for its violation of it (we constantly heard the ďNew CokeĒ cautionary tale). Meanwhile, The Last Jedi (which...
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    Thursday, 28th June, 2018, 02:21 PM
    I would be hestitant to use this language. You can't be truer than what happened, and 4e did evolve out of the late 3e materials. But right now we are seeing multitude of reactions to the Pathfinder 2 preview materials akin to "that looks like 4e," and "that looks like 5e," with other fans noting "that was already in late PF1 so this still looks like PF." So it does seem that 3.X d20 system...
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  • Aldarc's Avatar
    Thursday, 28th June, 2018, 01:45 PM
    If we are talking about THE 3pp publisher for psionics built on the 3.X engine in a thread about what we want for psionics in 5e, then I would say that you should at least not be surprised or dismissive when they are named.
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  • Aldarc's Avatar
    Thursday, 28th June, 2018, 01:33 PM
    Thank you for finding and sharing both articles. Even as someone who enjoyed 4e, that was enlightening. This also makes me curious about several other possible "what if scenarios." What if 4e had been more similar to 13th Age? And now, what if 4e had been more akin to what we are seeing with Pathfinder 2e?
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  • Manbearcat's Avatar
    Thursday, 28th June, 2018, 01:55 AM
    Let me extend things a little bit to talk about cost as the relevant piece... So chao is talking about Sorcerer here, but its relevant. So the PC's big brother is the best man he ever knew. Raised him when their parents died. Is a retired, legendary Dog who lost his gun-fighting hand when a nasty infection from a wound took it that he got rescuing a child straight from the jaws of a...
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    Wednesday, 27th June, 2018, 06:18 PM
    Do you mean my words per post have decreased or my posts include less arcane language? There are a reason for both of those things. My vocabulary hasnít evolved (organically) so much as Iíve worked very diligently to talk and write differently. Sometimes it takes. Sometimes I revert (but usually in person where I donít have time to agonize over communicating more ďaccessibly and pithyĒ). ...
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    Wednesday, 27th June, 2018, 05:59 PM
    Itís not enough ďvomit a pile of words all over the screen while wandering aimlessly for a thoughtĒ to be me!
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    Wednesday, 27th June, 2018, 04:05 PM
    This may not the thread for it, but I mentioned it in another thread. There is a very significant overlap in long term Star Wars fans/traditionalists and D&D (no surprise as these were two of the seminal zeitgeists of that era). I would think that one of the takeaways of 4e (essence) is: ďDonít piss off your traditionalist base.Ē 4e was and has been relentlessly murdered for that.
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    Wednesday, 27th June, 2018, 08:47 AM
    You are impressing no one but yourself with this sort of attitude. Sorry that your illustration was terrible and phrased poorly. You want to talk about RPGs? Fine. Then do so. But it does not help your case when you use false illustrations as part of generalized statements that are demonstrably untrue and then act all uppity towards others. What does your posturing achieve here? The term...
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Thursday, 21st June, 2018

  • 03:12 PM - jgsugden mentioned Hussar in post My Experiment with 5e - No Classes with Cantrips
    I think a skill system can handle this pretty well. How? Inherently your options are static. You might be able to jump slighylyvfarther or break down a slightly thicker door, but your problem solutions remain substantially the same. The key feature of skill resolution rather than spell resolution that Hussar is pointing to is (i) the need to engage the fiction in action declaration and resolution, and (ii) the lack of auto-success.[quote]I understand this is what he is seeking, but that is apples and oranges with my point. He wants a certain low magic feel, but my point is that one style being used throughout an entire campaign doesn' eveolve as much as a system that starts there, then adds layers of magic over and over and over to evolve constantly. Also, as to (i) - Spells do not mean you don't engage the fiction. If magic feels like you're shutting down the engagement with the fiction, you're forgetting how wonderful and exotic magic should be. Listen a bit to Critical Role podcasts/videos for some good evocative use of magic that might feel better to folks that get bored by magical solutions. As to (ii) - I see three tiers when it comes to approaching problems with magic: 1.) You have no magic that assists, 2.) Magic helps but does not solve the problem, 3.) Magic bypasses the...
  • 12:10 PM - pemerton mentioned Hussar in post My Experiment with 5e - No Classes with Cantrips
    ...the types of challenges PCs face. As PCs obtain more tools and gain the ability to bypass certain types of challenges, the game introduces newer challenges that take more advanced capabilities to confront. This is a problem for PC types that do not have evolving capabilities that handle these challenges, but it does provide benefits: Things do not get old and players feel like their characters are evolving. If you're still wrestling with how to get the amulet that sits on a floating pedestal that hovers above a 100' wide canyon when you're 15th level, the PCs don't feel that different than a 3rd level party. If, however, that amulet is in an extradimensional pocket protected by animated energy motes ... the PCs don't feel like they're in Kansas anymore. They've graduated... although the S&S tpe PCs don't feel like they have as much to offer in these challenges.I think a skill system can handle this pretty well. The key feature of skill resolution rather than spell resolution that Hussar is pointing to is (i) the need to engage the fiction in action declaration and resolution, and (ii) the lack of auto-success. You can get those features while allowing high level PCs to do things with their skills that are superhuman in capability.

Monday, 18th June, 2018

  • 08:43 PM - Satyrn mentioned Hussar in post My Experiment with 5e - No Classes with Cantrips
    ...but one more thing to consider: D&D used magic to 'escalate' the types of challenges PCs face. As PCs obtain more tools and gain the ability to bypass certain types of challenges, the game introduces newer challenges that take more advanced capabilities to confront. This is a problem for PC types that do not have evolving capabilities that handle these challenges, but it does provide benefits: Things do not get old and players feel like their characters are evolving. If you're still wrestling with how to get the amulet that sits on a floating pedestal that hovers above a 100' wide canyon when you're 15th level, the PCs don't feel that different than a 3rd level party. If, however, that amulet is in an extradimensional pocket protected by animated energy motes ... the PCs don't feel like they're in Kansas anymore. They've graduated... although the S&S tpe PCs don't feel like they have as much to offer in these challenges. Does this match what you saw during your experiment, Hussar?

Monday, 11th June, 2018

  • 11:34 AM - Ratskinner mentioned Hussar in post Jon Peterson posts Mordenkainen in 1974
    ...lking about the facts in the encounter, and my buddy was talking about the facts on his sheet. I half wanted to say in character "what is a proficiency bonus?" Keep on managing your stats and playing based on your stats if that makes you happy. I will play in the moment, and if the stats serve my play so be it, and if they don't I will cope. But I certainly would never think about not taking a logical course of action because I might lose a +2 proficiency. I wouldn't even be thinking about such a thing. I don't know why you would think a DM should ban me from making an in game realization. Why would a DM ban good playing, which is what paying attention is. I wouldn't play with a DM who banned me from using my head. I see the difference, but I reject the notion that they are edition-centric. I've seen similar differences in playstyles in other game systems. Heck those kinds of differences are why people invent other systems and prefer one edition over the other. As Hussar pointed out, a 1e player might act the same way with even more mechanical influence on his decision. My group right now has a guy who runs at the first sign of non-optimisation, regardless of edition (and we just left a period of playing AD&D and Boot Hill).

Thursday, 31st May, 2018

  • 08:33 AM - Mouseferatu mentioned Hussar in post MTOF: Elves are gender-swapping reincarnates and I am on board with it
    So, Hussar, I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you overall. There are elements of Planescape I'm not fond of, too, and would prefer they hadn't become the default. But a lot of what you're talking about predates Planescape. Demons and demon lords all coming from the Abyss, all that? That's 1E planar lore, prior to Planescape as a setting.

Wednesday, 30th May, 2018

  • 09:37 PM - Sunseeker mentioned Hussar in post Comfort withcross gender characters based on your gender
    I'm going to foolishly wade into this thread once more and see if perhaps, I can be more clear. I come to the table with a character (we have, at this point, reached Hussar's "cypher" point). Through simple introduction, I explain the character is an elf, and female. NOW! I have established that my character is not myself (a male human), from this point forward, the presentation of this elf female is largely in my hands. If I am playing a fairly culturally-normative elf female, then per @MechaPilot this character should uphold certain established cultural norms and values. I may need some assistance from the GM from time to time since me, the IRL male human, wouldn't know the ins and outs of the elf society I come from, or how women are treated and behave in that society. BUT! It is highly common for adventurers to be exceptions rather than norms. Perhaps I have a particularly stronk elf, who is a bit of a pyro that likes getting drunk and generally being loud. Most people, regardless of the particulars of any homebrew elf-culture, would compare that to traditional elf cultures (such as portrayed in Tolkein) and agree that's not normative. In ...
  • 02:56 PM - Yaarel mentioned Hussar in post MTOF: Elves are gender-swapping reincarnates and I am on board with it
    Hussar You complain that 5e changed the Monster Manual. I complain 5e changed the grey elf and changed the sun elf, and changed the eladrin elf.

Tuesday, 29th May, 2018

  • 10:41 AM - Sadras mentioned Hussar in post MTOF: Elves are gender-swapping reincarnates and I am on board with it
    ...o the game. And it makes other folks happy. What's in it for me to oppose that? What am I gaining? Or, better yet, what are you gaining by opposing this? @Yaarel talks quite extensively about the change in elven lore. Thing is, it's not really a change. 1e limited elves to 12th level magic users. Until 3e, elves were NEVER the greatest wizards in the game. In 3e, baseline elves didn't gain an Int or Cha bonus at all, so, nope, other than some campaign specific variants, elves were not the greatest wizards in the game. It wasn't until 4e with Eladrin that the lore and the mechanics actually matched - eladrin wizards were among the best in the game. But, we don't HAVE eladrin in 5e. Not in core anyway. Core 5e elves fit best with 1e to 3e elves. So, his entire complaint ignores what's actually written in the game. So, I'll ask again, what is the cost to you to have this in the game? I'm coming in rather late into this debate and I have not read the entire thread - but @Hussar to be fair to @Yaarel don't you argue along similar lines when it comes to D&D cosmology as presented in the books? How do you differentiate between yours and his argument?

Thursday, 24th May, 2018

  • 02:49 PM - lowkey13 mentioned Hussar in post Harassment Policies: New Allegations Show More Work To Be Done
    Sure I can imagine another reason, but Gygax wasn't some raging racist. So given the incredibly unlikely possibility that he decided to make elves with racism in mind, or the incredibly likely possibility that he didn't, I'm not going to assume racism. They don't hate men. Just because you can draw parallels in the real world, doesn't make those parallels the intended reason for something. Correlation does not equal causation. Unless you can PROVE that misogyny is what caused Gygax to create drow, rather than just trying to imagine what an evil matriarchal society might be like, assuming the worst doesn't accomplish much other than to drag someone's name through the mud. Can you prove that misogyny is the reason for his decision? So, here's the problem. And this is why I can't agree with Hussar and his otherwise completely reasonable post which noted the problematic issues with drow, but said it was important to just concentrate on the current issues. If you don't know where you came from, how do you know where you're going? Notice the amount of pushback a simple observation like this has caused? No one said, "Hey, that EGG, he was a raging racist and sexist who was trying to advance white power and males uber alles with the drow!" No, instead people were discussing, in fairly reasonable terms, how depictions of the drow reflected a lot of baggage- racial and sexist baggage. And that's the problem when you attempt to take Hussar's reasonable suggestion and just move on; if people wish to disregard the structural issues of the past that were glaringly obvious, how can we address the structural issues of the present or future, which may be a little more subtle? It is neither an attack, nor a defense, to say that EGG was not a racist. I don't believe that the origin...

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  • 09:22 PM - AbdulAlhazred mentioned Hussar in post Why Worldbuilding is Bad
    On the other thread, when I've suggested this is one thing that worldbuilding is for, there has been a lot of disagreement. Most posters on that thread seem to deny that one function of worldbuilding is to establish stuff for the GM to tell to the players. I think the difficulty isn't in denying that it is to 'establish stuff for the GM to tell to the players.' I think they are objecting to the entire concept of analyzing play from a standpoint of what the people at the table DO. They want to only look at what is going on fictionally. Beyond that they wanted to emphasize the tentative, provisional, and incomplete nature of what was world built in order to reduce its significance to being more of a way to establish general character knowledge, mapping of genre tropes to their instantiation within the given milieu, and as a 'convenience feature' for the GM. This lead, more or less directly, to a rather long drawn out debate between Hussar and others about exactly where 'world building' ended and 'adventure design' (or whatever terms you want to use, don't drag me into that) began. Of course, YOU pretty much relegated adventure design itself to the category of world building back in the start of the other thread ('What is World Building For?'). I assume there was, long ago, a similar debate in this thread. I happen to agree with you that for the purposes of analysis the two activities are closely related, but obviously for someone who wants to kind of pass off world building as a sort of side activity it becomes convenient to draw a stronger line between them. So that might be ANOTHER way in which worldbuilding was 'denied' to be a source of information to dictate to players, because the people who did the denying called it something else! Nevertheless, your central assertion, that material produced by the GM exists for the purpose of telling the players how things are in the game world rather than establishing it by...
  • 11:28 AM - pemerton mentioned Hussar in post Why Worldbuilding is Bad
    Or else it's because it has no inherent property of good or bad, so calling it bad is wrong. You can dislike it, but it can't be bad. I can like it, but it can't be good.So I take it you think Lanefan is wrong to have said there is a reason in favour of worldbuilding, namely, that otherwise there is a serious risk of a hodge-podge world. I assume you are going to take him to task for confusing "bad GMing" with some objective risk. Or, alternatively, this whole pseuo-moralising attack on Hussar is nonsense. Yes, I think that's it.
  • 11:09 AM - pemerton mentioned Hussar in post Why Worldbuilding is Bad
    ...rld provides a foundation for the action of a story." which completely refute his argument that any part of building the world that deals with plot is not worldbuilding.Again, worldbuiding may have the goal of creating context. It doesn't follow that all context is worldubilding. And nor does it follow that all RPGing even has some context. There is no context to B1 other than "Let's earn some XP by exploring a dungeon." The context for S1 (Tomb of Horrors) is similar. The context in B2 is marginally thicker, but only marginally. Likewise S2 (White Plume Mountain), which is - by the way - another single-building adventure. Going back to Tomb of Horrors, contrast S1 with the Return to . . . version, which (I understand by reputation - I've never read it) does engage in a whole lot of worldbuilding, establishing all this backstory to try and make the dungeon actually make sense in the context of a consistent, coherent world. This seems to me to be exactly the sort of distinction Hussar is drawing, between adventure design and worldbuilding. You believe he's stating personal preference and applying these reasons to... himself only as opposed to making a general statement about why he believes world building is bad in general? If so that seems like an interesting way of interpreting his statement, and certainly not how I read it. I don't blame you for your preferences, and I'm sure they've formed as a result of your actual experiences, but I don't think they are universal enough to consider worldbuilding as bad. I just don't think it's all that different from any other tool the DM can use....they can be used effectively, or they can be abused.Let's take it, for the sake of argument, that Hussar's comments are grounded primarily in personal preference grounded in personal experience. Are hawkeyefan's grounded in anything more robust or objective? I doubt it. In other words, the claims worldbuilding is not bad is not grounded more firmly than the claim tha...

Friday, 11th May, 2018

  • 09:53 PM - Maxperson mentioned Hussar in post Why Worldbuilding is Bad
    I think your splitting hairs. I don't think so. A good analogy for this would be if Hussar said, "I don't like vehicles, because they're too big. Cars, trucks, semis, and airplanes are just too much. That's why I ride a motorcycle. That's not a vehicle." Pointing out that a motorcycle IS a vehicle, just a smaller one that he does like is not splitting hairs. It's similarly not splitting hairs to point out the fact that he does worldbuild, even if on a smaller scale.
  • 06:27 PM - Aldarc mentioned Hussar in post Why Worldbuilding is Bad
    Hussar restated his points in the post I quoted, I chose it because it's a clarification of his position in this thread... and it calls into question problems around worldbuilding as a whole not as they pertain to his preferences...Then I will leave that to Hussar to clarify, as I can only speak for my own reading of the situation in the context of the thread. But I do hope that you better understand the contextualization of my own response to you.
  • 06:12 PM - Imaro mentioned Hussar in post Why Worldbuilding is Bad
    Let's retrace our steps a bit for contextualization because this entire line of thinking is becoming absurd, and I have little desire to perpetuate that absurdity. I disagreed with Bedrockgames's assertion and kinda spiteful characterization that Hussar was expressing his opinion "as an absolute" and that "Hussar has the answer for everyone." This runs counter, IME, to how I see Hussar expressing his viewpoints in the context of the wider conversation. You asked what then we were discussing. And in the context of this entire conversation, one portion of that is Hussar's preferences rooted in and based on his general observations about worldbuilding as an enterprise of RPGs. I am talking about the wider context of his conversation in this thread. You then asked for my reading on a specific passage. My reading of this passage is again tied to my understanding of Hussar's argument in this entire thread, and I do think that his post in question that you quoted is led by those preferences. Hussar restated his points in the post I quoted, I chose it because it's a clarification of his position in this thread... and it calls into question problems around worldbuilding as a whole not as they pertain to his preferences...
  • 05:59 PM - Aldarc mentioned Hussar in post Why Worldbuilding is Bad
    But I was asking about that specific passage... Him having done both in the thread means he has made general statements about worldbuilding while you claimed he was only stating preference.Let's retrace our steps a bit for contextualization because this entire line of thinking is becoming absurd, and I have little desire to perpetuate that absurdity. I disagreed with Bedrockgames's assertion and kinda spiteful characterization that Hussar was expressing his opinion "as an absolute" and that "Hussar has the answer for everyone." This runs counter, IME, to how I see Hussar expressing his viewpoints in the context of the wider conversation. You asked what then we were discussing. And in the context of this entire conversation, one portion of that is Hussar's preferences rooted in and based on his general observations about worldbuilding as an enterprise of RPGs. I am talking about the wider context of his conversation in this thread. You then asked for my reading on a specific passage. My reading of this passage is again tied to my understanding of Hussar's argument in this entire thread, and I do think that his post in question that you quoted is led by those preferences. Aldarc, I share a lot of Imaro's sentiments here. I think you and Hussar are trying to have it both ways, on the one hand saying "this is just my opinion and if you object you are reacting because you feel morally judged", on the other hand saying "...
  • 04:20 PM - Aldarc mentioned Hussar in post Why Worldbuilding is Bad
    ...finition, instead of "admitting" to a false one, then that's on you. It's no sweat off my back if some faceless person on the internet doesn't have respect for me. :)However, we are not discussing whether an orange is an apple or an apple is an orange. 'Apples' and 'oranges' are physical objects that have physical properties that we can ascertain. We are discussing what constitutes the definition for an abstract concept that pertains to fiction-making: e.g., "Mary Sue," "Anti-hero," "Second World," etc. LOL He posted this example as a definition of his worldbuilding. "Worldbuilding is the process of constructing an imaginary world, sometimes associated with a whole fictional universe. ... Developing an imaginary setting with coherent qualities such as a history, geography, and ecology is a key task for many science fiction or fantasy writers"Yes, and you and you alone misread what he quoted to mean "the entire world" and then proceded to gloat in song and dance that you got Hussar to "refute" a point that he never made. "LOL," indeed. But he intentionally left out these portions of the link. "Worldbuilding often involves the creation of maps, a backstory, and people for the world." which lists people and for RPGs would include monsters.Simply pulling monsters from a monster manual, however, would likely not fall within the conventional usage or sense of "worldbuilding." Again, to echo Bedrockgames, I think that this is you splitting hairs. "From a game-design perspective, the goal of worldbuilding is to create the context for a story. Consistency is an important element, since the world provides a foundation for the action of a story." which completely refute his argument that any part of building the world that deals with plot is not worldbuilding. It's says that the freaking goal of worldbuilding in a game is for the story(plot).Did you have a reason for intentionally leaving out the following sentence? "However, J. R. R. Tolkien described the go...
  • 04:07 PM - Imaro mentioned Hussar in post Why Worldbuilding is Bad
    Want to address this and get some clarity first but I'll get to your other points later... One would certainly hope that you would know that before you chose to wade into it. There are multiple divergent conversations at play here though. On this point, however, I think that Hussar is clearly discussing his own preferences that he would like expressed in published materials. As to the rest of the conversations? That might be a bit much to summarize. So just to be clear, when Hussar posts... Ok, perhaps a point form list of how I think that world building is bad might be a good idea. I. How Worldbuilding is Bad for the DM/Table Worldbuilding takes away from time that could be spent writing the actual adventure. The more time the DM spends detailing Elven Tea Ceremonies, the less time he or she has to write an actual adventure. Some DM's become very, very attached to their creations. To the point where any attempt by the players to change that creation will be met with very stiff resistance. The possibility of the "Tour Des Realms" campaign where the PC's are basically just tourists in the game and are expected to make the appropriate oohing and ahhhing noises at the DM's wonderful creation. The narrowing of possibilities in the game. The...


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Thursday, 19th July, 2018

  • 04:09 PM - Caliban quoted Hussar in post Is Dying really hard?
    Given the plethora of healing available in 5e, I donít think it would be unreasonable to think that combat evolves a bit and hacking downed targets becomes a lot more viable of a tactic. How many people and creatures in the campaign world have access to the same healing abilities as the PC's? In most settings the PC's are very much the exception, most creatures don't have such ready access to potions, healing spells, and other in-combat healing abilities (or really most of the abilities that PC's display). YMMV, depending on how the campaign is set up.
  • 06:57 AM - Maxperson quoted Hussar in post Everybody Cheats?
    I suppose it depends on the viewer really. A table that lets you declare hits, for example, isnít cheating by your definition since the table agrees. But they certainly arenít playing by the rules either. Sure they are. The table makes the rules. Official rules aren't sacred. They can be altered or removed without it being cheating. Are they cheating or not? From their perspective probably not. But from any outside observer? Iíd say yes they are. They can't be. An outside observer may not understand, but if everyone at the table is doing it, the outside observer can't call it cheating and be correct.
  • 01:29 AM - Emerikol quoted Hussar in post What's the best and worst D&D book you own from any edition?
    But... But... I was just told, repeatedly, many, many, many times, that there is no need to improve fighters. That it's all just made up by DM's who lack the ability to run a balanced game. :D :p It's like there are two factions. The ones that can't and the ones who can. There are a lot who can't though so all this stuff helps those people.

Tuesday, 17th July, 2018

  • 12:31 PM - Ilbranteloth quoted Hussar in post Everybody Cheats?
    As I recall, don't you roll 5d6 drop 2 for chargen? I seen to recall that from another conversation. So, realistically, not really much of a chance of a low score and very good chances of high scores. IOW, cheating in anything but name. How can following the rules for their game be cheating? By that measure, everybody using point buy or 4d6 drop 1 is cheating as far as I'm concerned. 3d6 all the way!
  • 04:53 AM - Myrdin Potter quoted Hussar in post Roll 20, Fantasy Grounds, or other VTT?
    Sure, you can make it easier and organize things. Totally agree. Doesn't change the point that each of those pictures take about five steps in order to use. As compared to drag and drop which every other VTT does. One other issue to bear in mind too is the ability to port forward on your router. This has been an issue for me since my router doesn't support port forwarding, requiring me to use Hamachi in order to run the program. Not a huge hurdle, but, something to be aware of. Granted, this was also an issue with Maptool but, not one for Roll 20. When I travel I use PureVPN. That works well and I want a VPN on shared networks anyways. There are a few other free solutions on the forums now, including running the program in a cloud instance server which is essentially the same as other models, no messing with port forwarding at all. There is a thread on the forums detailing all the ways to do it. I also set-up a separate folder outside of the apps folder which makes life eas...

Monday, 16th July, 2018

  • 06:33 AM - Myrdin Potter quoted Hussar in post Roll 20, Fantasy Grounds, or other VTT?
    Like I said, for the price, fantasy grounds should be a hell of a lot better than it is. To give an example, the number of steps required to add something as simple as a single image is a bad joke. Find the pic, download it to your computer in the correct directory. Go back into fg find the file through the images tab, hope that you know the file name because good luck finding it otherwise. Bring it up on your game table. Right click and navigate the radial menu to find share and now you can show a simple jpg to your players. Compare to Maptool which is a free program that is about fifteen years old and I drag and drop the image to the game map and poof everyone can see it. I paid 130 USD for what exactly? You mean download an image, put into the images folder of your campaign, click the images button and share it? I mean, some images, like maps, are DM only, so sharing explicitly is needed. Takes me under 5 seconds, it is not like remembering a name you just gave it is hard an...
  • 02:35 AM - Myrdin Potter quoted Hussar in post Roll 20, Fantasy Grounds, or other VTT?
    I use Fantasy Grounds, but, I have to admit, I really have a love/hate relationship with it. Sure, as a DM, you get fantastic tools. Really great stuff for getting up and running. On the downside though, it's unbelievably expensive for what you get. I mean, an ultimate license is going to run you 150 bucks, another 150 bucks (maybe 100 depending on the discounts you get) for the core three books means that this is a 200-300 dollar program. Tack on a couple of extra books and you're looking at a 4-500 dollar program. This is NOT a 300 dollar program. As noted, if you buy the ultimate license at full price (not on sale), then it is $150. It is pretty easy to wait for a sale and pay around $120. But with that license, none of the players need to pay for a license. If it is 4 players and one DM, then the cost is $30 each at full price. You cannot add the price of the books in, that is WoTC material. Plus, no 5e book is $50 on FG. Regular price is $30 ($29.99). They go on sale ...

Sunday, 8th July, 2018

  • 04:49 AM - Umbran quoted Hussar in post How big's the RPG market?
    But, even of DM's, how many DM's are like me that buy the core books and maybe one book every two years? My "gotta catch'em all" days died in early 2e. Well, you didn't say "The number of gamers who buy *all the books* is a tiny, tiny fraction." I'm saying the GM and maybe one player in five buys some stuff. I am agreeing that it isn't a majority, but it isn't "tiny, tiny" either.

Saturday, 7th July, 2018

  • 03:52 PM - Umbran quoted Hussar in post How big's the RPG market?
    Why surprised? It's always been thus. The number of gamers who buy books is a tiny, tiny minority of players. I dunno if "tiny, tiny minority" is appropriate. If we say every GM, and then one in five players, on broad average, I think that'd be about right - and that's 20% of players. A minority, but not a *tiny* minority.
  • 02:50 PM - Umbran quoted Hussar in post What no Luke Cage love?
    Loads of emotion and personal stakes? Oh, noes, I have to get my multi-billion dollar company back No, dude. The company isn't the thing at all. You seem to have entirely missed it. The entire show is about *family*, loyalty, and personal identity. The company is merely a McGuffin around which to have conflict to test these things. Like I said, the stakes are totally unimportant. If Danny fails, he's STILL Iron Fist. Again, you've misidentified the real conflict for Danny, and therefore miss the stakes. In K'un-Lun, he was an instrument, a tool, a living weapon. Not a person. In his teens, his development *as a person* was arrested. He leaves in large part to discover who the heck he really is. And, like most people, he feels he is largely defined by his family, so he tries to return to it. The stakes are, for Danny, whether he really is just a sword to be used by others. The stakes, for him, are not dissimilar than for, say, Jean Valjean in Les Miserables - Who ...

Friday, 6th July, 2018

  • 08:05 PM - Emerikol quoted Hussar in post How big's the RPG market?
    Let's be honest here. There are very, very few hobbies out there as cheap to enjoy as roleplaying. This can't be emphasized enough. Compared to almost any hobby RPG's are really cheap. I have two hobbies. Reading rpg rules and playing rpgs. The former hobby makes more money for the industry than the latter but it's a team effort.
  • 04:48 PM - gyor quoted Hussar in post 5e needs a Faiths and Avatars style book
    Wait, what? I live in a polytheistic country - Japan. And, I'm going to tell you right now that there ARE standardized rituals, and uniforms for priests and standardized holy days in Shinto. I'm not sure what kind of polytheism you are thinking of, but, most religions, whether mono or polytheistic, have pretty standardized rituals and holy days and easily recognizable priesthoods. I'm pretty sure it's the 2 dimensional understanding of religion during the Roman Empire.
  • 04:33 AM - Umbran quoted Hussar in post What no Luke Cage love?
    But, I think that's what makes Jessica Jones and Daredevil much better shows. Sure, JJ is an alcoholic, but, it's never "let slide" in the show. It's destructive as all get out. Watching JJ implode is a big part of what makes the show good. She doesn't implode *because of the alcohol*, though. The alcohol is presented as a result of her problems, not a cause of them. The alcohol is treated as "self medication" for her other issues, and itself doesn't get in her way - she never loses a fight for being drunk, does she? And I know a number of people who love JJ, and think that her hard-drinking is there to show that she's badass, because ability to hold one's liquor is seen as a sign of strength. Those are the reasons why I think of it as being normalized - especially the hard-drinking as a sign of strength. But, then you've got Iron Fist. The bad guy is a somewhat smarmy businessman? Ummm, really? I'm not really into watching a superhero show that focuses on boardroom dealing...

Thursday, 5th July, 2018

  • 12:13 AM - Lanefan quoted Hussar in post Everybody Cheats?
    As I recall, don't you roll 5d6 drop 2 for chargen? I seen to recall that from another conversation. No, that's us who do that. (though Max might do so as well, I think you're remembering our crew)

Wednesday, 4th July, 2018

  • 11:50 PM - Maxperson quoted Hussar in post Everybody Cheats?
    As I recall, don't you roll 5d6 drop 2 for chargen? I seen to recall that from another conversation. Not quite. It's 4d6 straight down, but I give them the option to have 2 rolls at 5d6 drop 2, and 2 rolls at 3d6 straight up. It's a gamble they sometimes take and sometimes don't. So, realistically, not really much of a chance of a low score and very good chances of high scores. IOW, cheating in anything but name. First, it's not what I give. Second, I play in a game where the DM does give 5d6 drop the lowest 2 and low numbers still make it into stats a lot of the time. He plays a harsher world, though, so the higher stats are sort of a necessity. Edit: Third, even if it was 5d6 drop 2 the entire way, it's still not cheating in any form whatsoever, since they would be following a rule that I made, so it's not possible for it to be cheating, or even fudging. Hell, it's not even unfair since they would all get it.
  • 10:14 PM - Lanefan quoted Hussar in post Everybody Cheats?
    As far as "keeping the numbers secret" goes, in 5e, monster HP are standardized - well, that's been true since 3e. And, damage isn't random either - your monsters deal average damage. Granted, I think most groups randomize damage. In 3e-4e-5e monster h.p. are standardized only if you want them to be. Ditto damage. But, don't you tell your player's the save DC when they make a saving throw? I do. "The spell hits you, make a DC X Wisdom save to resist". Never. I just say something like "Somer, you need a saving throw". Sometimes she'll in-character know or guess against what, other times (e.g. a hidden caster or any psionic attack) she won't have a clue. EDIT to add: I do it this way because in cases where it's not obvious what she's saving against, if she fails the other characters might not know what happened to her and-or what caused it, only that she's down or acting funny or whatever. And because the characters don't know the players shouldn't know either. I've never un...
  • 08:54 PM - gyor quoted Hussar in post 5e needs a Faiths and Avatars style book
    Wait, what? I live in a polytheistic country - Japan. And, I'm going to tell you right now that there ARE standardized rituals, and uniforms for priests and standardized holy days in Shinto. I'm not sure what kind of polytheism you are thinking of, but, most religions, whether mono or polytheistic, have pretty standardized rituals and holy days and easily recognizable priesthoods. Wicca too depending on domination, some traditionalists for example do rituals sky clad.
  • 03:10 PM - Les Moore quoted Hussar in post Everybody Cheats?
    Sorry, I misspoke. Standard HP/level are a norm, not the norm. The other option is, of course, rolling. It's been so long since I actually rolled HP's, that I honestly forgot that some people still do this. Good grief, it's been almost ten years now for me. 4e and then 5e. Heck, even in 3e we typically took standard HP values. Kinda like die rolling characters. Again, it's been so long since I've done that, I've kinda forgot that it's a thing that people do. I wonder if there's any sort of correlation there. Between people who prefer larger degrees of randomness in their game and also prefer to fudge. IME, there is, but, that's just purely anecdotal. Part of the point of the game, at least for us, is to "roll the bones". I guess what you do must be fun (?) but it wouldn't be the same without dice. Some of us harken back to before the planet's crust cooled, and we used 4D6 as the basis for all rolls, in the early times, before polyhedrals were widely available. Gran...
  • 08:56 AM - Sadras quoted Hussar in post Everybody Cheats?
    It's been so long since I actually rolled HP's, that I honestly forgot that some people still do this. Good grief, it's been almost ten years now for me. 4e and then 5e. Heck, even in 3e we typically took standard HP values. Kinda like die rolling characters. Again, it's been so long since I've done that, I've kinda forgot that it's a thing that people do. I would like to try it again, but it is not something my current table would relish, and I'm unwilling to flex my DM muscle within our social contract for that. However, with a new group of players it should be easy to incorporate.
  • 08:55 AM - Imaculata quoted Hussar in post Everybody Cheats?
    I wonder if there's any sort of correlation there. Between people who prefer larger degrees of randomness in their game and also prefer to fudge. IME, there is, but, that's just purely anecdotal. I doubt it. You could just as easily see correlation between people who prefer to let the die fall as they may, and also being against fudging.


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