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  • Warpiglet's Avatar
    Saturday, 26th May, 2018, 07:27 PM
    Just so I am clear...it seemed from the reactions of some posters across sites that the lore is ALL elves can change and do change sex. Is that the case or is it just some who are so "blessed" have the ability? For me the distinction would be the difference between allowing and having it part of my world or an ignored tidbit.
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Saturday, 26th May, 2018, 05:04 PM
    Mistwell replied to Core+1
    What combinations between the PHB and two other books do you think are notably unbalanced in ways that are not present in PHB itself or PHB plus one?
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  • MoonSong's Avatar
    Saturday, 26th May, 2018, 03:55 AM
    Personally, I don't care. If this makes some people around happier, more power to them. As a DM I'm not interested into someone else's flavor, and if one player really felt pretty strongly about it, I would allow something like that anyway without needing a book to tell me I could. As a player I don't care as long as this isn't imposed on my character by the DM -and I'l never be desperate enough...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Friday, 25th May, 2018, 11:09 PM
    I love this thread
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  • MoonSong's Avatar
    Friday, 25th May, 2018, 07:45 PM
    Ů_Ů thank you, now I know I want to watch this movie. Which means I'm out of here, and not coming back until I've seen it. And that means you've earned a free colored drawing from me of any character you want. Just describe the character you want and I'll do my best to portray him/her -by PM-.
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  • MoonSong's Avatar
    Friday, 25th May, 2018, 07:22 PM
    Haven't seen it, willing to give it a chance, but still undecided. It all comes to one question, does Han actually complete the run or did it happen without him? Edit: Wow, I didn't notice when I leveled up. This is also my 2000th post. To celebrate, whoever answers me first and truthfully will get a free color character drawing from me!
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Friday, 25th May, 2018, 05:14 PM
    I don't care about the gender swapping, but I do have some issues with "natural" reincarnation (rather than the spell) and elves. I feel like that messes with a lot of the theme of elves. There is a huge amount of lore surrounding elvish afterlives, the risk of death and fear from going out into the wider world because natural death isn't an aspect of the race, etc.. As for elves reincarnating...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Friday, 25th May, 2018, 04:19 PM
    Mistwell replied to Core+1
    It would be nice if they added a few things to the Basic game. Putting Eladrin in there (when they were already mentioned directly in a section of the DMG) would make sense and solve those problems.
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Friday, 25th May, 2018, 03:17 PM
    Mistwell replied to Core+1
    But you can use a rogue with those cantrips. The only thing you couldn't do is use one of the few subclasses in Xanathars, and some races.
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  • Warpiglet's Avatar
    Friday, 25th May, 2018, 01:50 PM
    Somehow I doubt you complain about African fiction or Asian fiction featuring characters that look more like their majority population. I also assume you are well intentioned. i saw several female character in Conan stories and even the movie as quite capable. I am thinking of the pirate captain as wel as his party member in the film. I don't know if it is pandering per se but have a...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Friday, 25th May, 2018, 06:43 AM
    Mistwell replied to Core+1
    It does. It's not in the character builder part, but in your campaign section. You turn off the content you don't want for your access to the campaign prior to using the character generator.
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Friday, 25th May, 2018, 06:05 AM
    Mistwell replied to Core+1
    WHAT. SPECIFIC. THINGS. DID. YOUR. PLAYERS. WANT. THAT. THEY. COULD. NOT. DO? "race" and "spells" and "Multiclass" are not specific, they are general. When people around here are speaking in hypotheticals about something they think could be a problem but they have not actually been playing so much that it really came up, they tend to answer the way you're answering right now. Someone says,...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Friday, 25th May, 2018, 12:34 AM
    Mistwell replied to Core+1
    That's nice. What exactly are the options involving three books (PHB+2) that you're seeing? We seem to have a recurring problem here. I say something, and then you respond to me but appear to be responding to some other thing in your answer. It's like I asked what your favorite color was, and you answered "I like soup." I guess I will rephrase and try again? You said you observed "Players...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Thursday, 24th May, 2018, 10:34 PM
    Mistwell replied to Core+1
    What exactly are the options involving three books (PHB +2) that you're seeing?
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Thursday, 24th May, 2018, 10:19 PM
    Mistwell replied to Core+1
    And yet it does not appear to annoy a lot of players, while the current system is hooking epic levels of new players. I also know two players who, when Xanathar's was released, did some binge gaming at a convention with new characters and followed it up by some game store gaming and power leveled their new PCs back to the level they were prior to Xanathar's coming out in a single week. And...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Thursday, 24th May, 2018, 09:20 PM
    Mistwell replied to Core+1
    Yes you can re-do anything below level 5 anyway.
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Thursday, 24th May, 2018, 09:18 PM
    Mistwell replied to Core+1
    Only my concerns matter when responding to someone who is answering my concerns, yes. You are free to talk about whatever you want and I am not here to stop you, but you might want to do it in response to someone else if that's what you want ME to be talking about. Sure that's relevant to that question, but it's not relevant to the question I actually posed, which is "Will I FEEL BEHIND?"...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Thursday, 24th May, 2018, 07:40 PM
    Mistwell replied to Core+1
    That's not what I mean by equal. You seem really hung up on these issues of balance and equality rather than the concept I am getting at which has zero to do with those issues in the game. I am talking purely about the perception of a new player approaching the game. Assume they know nothing. All they want to know is, in that very moment (not the future) if they buy into the game will they...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Thursday, 24th May, 2018, 07:22 PM
    A long time ago I recall some guy left EnWorld and demanded that Morrus remove all his posts. Which was a laughable demand of course - he had hundreds and hundreds of them and each needed to be remove by hand. He started to do it himself (or maybe he completed that). Strangely, I think under this new law if a user demanded that all their posts be removed...they would in fact have that right...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Thursday, 24th May, 2018, 06:45 PM
    Mistwell replied to Core+1
    No, it does not, and I think you're not addressing the point I made. What I said had ZERO to do will abusive concepts or balance. If players know that ALL other players can only use one extra book going in, that gives them the sense they can never "fall behind" in their choice to enter the game. That it's not a game which involves buying a lot of books. That if they only ever buy one extra...
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    Thursday, 24th May, 2018, 03:14 PM
    Mistwell replied to Core+1
    It sends the message that for organized play you are not in any way "falling behind" if you opt to buy just one expansion book and that's all. Now experienced players may believe rightly that there is no falling behind if you don't buy all the expansion books, but new players also reasonably might get that sense. So sending that message is powerful for new players. The sense that you're...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Thursday, 24th May, 2018, 01:58 AM
    Monsters tend to be afraid for their own lives and trying to kill things which are threatening them. Some will be extra vicious and want to finish off fallen foes, but most of the time they're going for the guy about to try and kill them and not the one bleeding on the ground.
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  • Warpiglet's Avatar
    Wednesday, 23rd May, 2018, 03:18 PM
    I think you just gave me an idea. Would WOTC be able to give a free pdfndex of subjects for all published material? I think that might be a solution. For example, I recently had Hobgoblins figure prominently in the game. The index could direct me both to Volo's guide as well as Monster Manual with page numbers and subjects under hobgoblin. If they keep putting out books with slightly...
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  • Patrick McGill's Avatar
    Wednesday, 23rd May, 2018, 12:45 PM
    Yep, this to me is the answer. Injuries or wounds when you hit 0 hp regardless whether or not you are stabilized. The injuries in the DM's Guide, however, are a bit too extreme for my tastes. I'd like there to be a range from mild to severe rather than all of them being severe.
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  • Warpiglet's Avatar
    Tuesday, 22nd May, 2018, 07:38 PM
    Hello all, I have really enjoyed 5e and was again DM for a big set piece adventure. I just started thinking as I found some material long forgotten... The new format of the books finds a wide audience. Each of the books past the core 3 have things for players and DMs alike. Just curious though about how they are used in practice. I am very happy with the content, but admit that...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Tuesday, 22nd May, 2018, 05:42 PM
    Battle Master 11 Eldritch Knight 10 Way of Shadow 7 Oath of the Ancients 5 Arcane Trickster 5
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Tuesday, 22nd May, 2018, 04:54 AM
    So when does game theory come into this?
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Monday, 21st May, 2018, 08:55 PM
    So...how would you feel about an all-Paladin campaign? Serious question. Assume for this hypothetical the DM has taken ownership of their campaign setting and has a good, thoughtful setting he's passionate about it and put a lot of time into creating an evocative setting. In this setting, you're a party of crusaders (all paladins) sent by a secret group of the dominate religious order of your...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Monday, 21st May, 2018, 07:35 PM
    Maybe the OP should have made this a "plus" thread to persuade you to not change the subject and to make a positive contribution to the topic he raised? Or perhaps you should start your own thread about Darkvision/Infravision house rules? ;)
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Monday, 21st May, 2018, 07:32 PM
    As law applies to all industries and the meaning of those terms is most applicable to legal issues that arise in those industries and the words all are legal definitions, I disagree. Ah, I see the confusion now. A "second party developer" in that context IS a consumer - just not of games. They bought the license to a platform (from Microsoft, for example). They then sell to another...
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  • Warpiglet's Avatar
    Monday, 21st May, 2018, 02:30 PM
    You may be right. Of all the books, SCAG is my least favorite and for the reasons you suggest. My group is only into the Realms to the extent that it is baked into adventures and we don't always feel like changing all the names. WOTC is wise to continue to have little boxes saying what things could represent in Greyhawk, Eberron etc. It is like a reminder that the information can be used...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Monday, 21st May, 2018, 04:40 AM
    This one happened to be an old bar study book from Barbri, but I imagine they got it from something like Black's Law Dictionary or a hornbook on contracts or sales laws. That's not what second party means, legally speaking. If you have a quote from some place that shows different, I am willing to listen. It's referring to the parties to a contract - the first party being the seller, the...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Monday, 21st May, 2018, 03:06 AM
    I literally quoted the legal definition right from the book, word for word. The second party is the customer. That's what that phrase means. It has a real definition, and that's the definition.
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Monday, 21st May, 2018, 02:58 AM
    Societies evolve. Your PC views themselves as a tipping point in the lizardfolk society to move into an iron age. It's why you focus on the Forge domain, and why you practically worship the secrets of forging metals into usable tools and weapons for your people. What may be common place to other societies already is a rare mystery to yours, and therefore ripe for religion as opposed to a mere...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Monday, 21st May, 2018, 02:26 AM
    A producer (1st party) supplies a product to a customer (2nd party) and can use components from another supplier (3rd party).
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Monday, 21st May, 2018, 02:10 AM
    The original post: Someone suggested the best way to address this is to remind the players of the rule. You responded:
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Sunday, 20th May, 2018, 11:58 PM
    I happen to like the Skulker feat, which deals with this issue. However, I think more people would seriously consider it if it also gave +1 to Dex. For reference, it currently does the following three things: You can try to hide when you are lightly obscured from the creature from which you are hiding. (Which means of course you can try to hide in the dark from creatures that are using only...
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  • MoonSong's Avatar
    Sunday, 20th May, 2018, 04:46 PM
    I think second party is when a company gets hired by the first party to do official stuff. Like when WotC outsourced the two first adventure paths.
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Sunday, 20th May, 2018, 03:49 AM
    Three people now have asked you to cut it out. You know what would be more productive than everyone ignoring you over a silly issue like this? Just cut it out. Don't accuse people of trying to change the subject because of some tactic or something - it's a legit issue that you're dismissing. It's just a rudeness issue that you can easily address...so why not address it?
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Saturday, 19th May, 2018, 04:29 PM
    Dwelling on what others have done in past arguments concerning grammar is in fact the very thing you're complaining about. It's a non-issue if others have talked about grammar in the past and you raising it is a distraction from the point he raised. He's bothered because you've circumvented the built in notification system of the message board when you do that. It's not an issue like grammar -...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Friday, 18th May, 2018, 06:29 PM
    I am not familiar with that feat. Which one is that?
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    Friday, 18th May, 2018, 05:57 AM
    I think most of the rage is over the snowball effect ramifications of this ruling, rather than Shield Mastery itself. It feels like one of those old 4e type tweaks of minor power balancing which have fingers of massive annoying changes that filter out into the larger game, that we thought we were done with when 5e arrived.
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Friday, 18th May, 2018, 03:50 AM
    For what it is worth, my DM's reaction was, "this feat was not overpowered in any way to begin with, and in fact it's not even coming up as often as I thought it might, so I really don't care when you use the bonus action."
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Friday, 18th May, 2018, 03:45 AM
    I think the word you're looking for is "care" by the way....speaking of semantics. ;)
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Thursday, 17th May, 2018, 11:50 PM
    Ah now, "I don't want to play with you guys anymore!" becomes "I meant that other game we were playing 5 minutes ago, not this one!" You might want to pick a definition of that word "anything" and stick with it.
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Thursday, 17th May, 2018, 09:51 PM
    I want to know why the poor halfling doesn't get darkvision. I mean, the iconic halfling (hobbit) was known to have keen eyes and even the elves and dwarves both used to ask Bilbo if he could see something better than they could, both further away and in dimmer light. Why the heck did they lose out but the elves and dwarves both got it? What...dwarves used to live underground and elves live in...
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    Thursday, 17th May, 2018, 09:43 PM
    This set of earrings each contain a portion of the same elemental totem spirit. When split between two allies, each ally can activate their earring to enable the bearer of the other earring to see what they see, for up to one minute. This power may be used once per earring each day, after which that earring regains its magic at dawn. If one earring from the pair is destroyed, the other loses its...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Thursday, 17th May, 2018, 09:11 PM
    The trigger for both is "When you take the Attack action". One of them further specifies "and attack...". Nothing here says you can nest the bonus action between attacks during that attack action however. Both trigger off an "When you take the Attack action", though one adds a further limiter in addition to that one. So while the trigger for two weapon fighting is both "take the Attack...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Thursday, 17th May, 2018, 09:03 PM
    Oh, now you want a clarification from ME in this thread, after refusing to clarify earlier yourself? What happened to, "I thought I made it clear earlier in the thread that Iíve given up trying to convince you of anything." Naw, you took your ball and went home. You can't just wander back because you saw the kids having fun and decided to pretend that didn't just happen.
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Thursday, 17th May, 2018, 07:46 PM
    OK this is getting even more silly on Twitter with Jeremy Crawford. I asked Jeremy this: "Based on new Bonus Action nesting rulings, if you have multiple attacks and are two weapon fighting, you can no longer attack with main weapon, attack with off-hand weapon, and attack with main weapon in that order?" Jeremy answered: "The ruling is that the text of a bonus action matters. The...
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  • Warpiglet's Avatar
    Thursday, 17th May, 2018, 07:23 PM
    That is interesting. I cannot stand the Realms for the most part and it simply does not come up much for me. Admittedly, there is a lot I cannot use in Sword Coast AG, but all of the core books, Volo's, Xanathar's seem pretty well free of its taint--sorry to use such a negative term :) Likewise, I used some of Yawning Portal in my own world and have not given a thought to FR. (shrug) ...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Thursday, 17th May, 2018, 05:56 PM
    So now if you have multiple attacks and are two weapon fighting, you can no longer attack with main weapon, attack with off-hand weapon, and attack with main weapon in that order? All because a few people were confused about a single aspect of a single optional feat, this mess? Not worth it. I don't know what JC is thinking.
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    Thursday, 17th May, 2018, 04:16 PM
    Word to your mother! And it is the way I like it! I must apologize outright and say I have never gotten into Warcraft (aside from the FIRST and SECOND ones in the early 90s!) and dislike the nomenclature of striker etc. We make characters and play, period. I enjoy the idea of being able to be and play in many different ways. No restrictions are not my goal--that is boring and there is no...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Thursday, 17th May, 2018, 05:10 AM
    People who don't want to engage just don't respond rather than responding with three paragraphs on how they don't want to respond. So...look a monkey it is apparently? Or did you want the final word while telling me you don't want the final word? I am asking you for examples of what you are talking about. That's not nit picking, and it's not a rhetorical game, it's a simple question which you...
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    Wednesday, 16th May, 2018, 09:34 PM
    Go bard. Swap one of the spells for Faerie Fire (too good to pass up). Your armor will improve - they can wear medium armor eventually if you like.
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Wednesday, 16th May, 2018, 09:06 PM
    Well it can carry you and your equipment, right? It has a strength score which can pull the wagon equipment based on that score, right? Why would it have to specify a "wagon" when it doesn't specify, for example, a sword the PC might be carrying either?
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Wednesday, 16th May, 2018, 08:53 PM
    People don't think about this game the same way as you think about this game. That's kinda been the point of 90% of the replies to you since this version of the game came out, and it's not sinking in. It's not that you're "bad" for being different in your views...its that you don't realize your views are different. You keep being frustrated and baffled that others don't seem to think about...
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    Wednesday, 16th May, 2018, 06:42 AM

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    Wednesday, 16th May, 2018, 06:24 AM
    Totem Warrior 12 College of Valor 8 Battle Master 22 Eldritch Knight 24 Way of Shadow 22 Oath of the Ancients 23 Hunter 20 Arcane Trickster 20 Scout 9 Shadow Magic 16
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Wednesday, 16th May, 2018, 01:44 AM
    OK so no examples (for something you said happened "many" times), tone policing me rather than responding to the arguments made, and no attempt at a refutation of any points made or even respond to a request for clarification on a rational confusion like the difference between "saved him" and "saved his life". Got it. Let me ask you, if you said, "Which of these 6 spells did you find to be...
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    Wednesday, 16th May, 2018, 12:03 AM
    I am not, but you should not have asked if you didn't want an answer to the question. I honestly assumed you were not aware of those limitations, because your statement seemed to lack credibility without that explanation and I assumed you were credible. Very few target just one character, as opposed to an area or group. And, that's also campaign-specific, so not something I'd know about...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Tuesday, 15th May, 2018, 11:22 PM
    Yes I literally thought you didn't already know that because you said that particular aspect of the feat, "save the character many times during 5eís run". It's six spells this aspect applies to, and of those six not all of them are life threatening and definitely most are not very common spells. The six spells: Disintegrate, Enervation (Xanathars), Hellish Rebuke (a fairly rare Warlock first...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Tuesday, 15th May, 2018, 09:28 PM
    Oh come on, now you're spinning. If an action helps everyone, it has less of a cost than if it helps only a sub-group. Saying "Well, you have the choice" doesn't change it from having less utility than something that helps everyone. That's like saying a spell which heals one person for 10 hp is identical in utility to a spell that heals 5 people 9hp each, because "Well, you have the choice". The...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Tuesday, 15th May, 2018, 06:48 PM
    You're ignoring the "shove between attack actions" issue. It doesn't have to be about DPR to be bothered by that aspect. Lots of non-DPR reasons to want to move some, attack (or grapple), shove (bonus), move some more, attack (or grapple/shove again), finish move. There was utility to allowing the shove come at any time in the series of events, provided you used the attack action at some point,...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Tuesday, 15th May, 2018, 06:41 PM
    It's only against, "a spell or other harmful effect that targets only you." That's not too common. A whole lot of the dex save spells are area attacks or at least target more than one target, which don't apply.
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    Tuesday, 15th May, 2018, 03:10 PM
    I think this is correct. I admit even as long time strategy game and D&D player that at first, 5e took a while to learn due to interference learning. For me, reactions and bonus actions seemed odd when I did not have a ready list of bonus actions to consider if you will. However, being simpler does not seem all bad to me. We had a few combats drag on when a character was kiting enemies...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Tuesday, 15th May, 2018, 01:51 AM
    Hmm this feat plus Goading Attack would make for a sweet combination. A lot has to go right for it to work. Attack has to hit, they have to miss their saving throw, and then you have to succeed with their shove. But, when it works, it would be pretty effective. But...still couldn't work with a dwarf, or someone wearing heavy armor, unless you are willing to accept an opportunity attack that...
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    Monday, 14th May, 2018, 06:55 PM
    Of course you mentioned dwarf. It's in the thing you quoted (which was not *my* take by the way - you were responding to someone else), and the response with the mention of 25', and the entire issue of escaping with the feat. I think you might have lost your own thread here mate. Did you not realize the argument you were responding to, or are you just trying to distract from talking about the...
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    Monday, 14th May, 2018, 04:57 PM
    Do tieflings vary in appearance based on their new possible lineages? I know they may have some new features, but what about their physical appearance?
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    Monday, 14th May, 2018, 04:49 PM
    My favorite character (or one of them) i 1e AD&D was a cleric. I somehow found a +2 mace and some other goodies and still was no match for a specialized fighter! at. all. But it was so fun. The role was very cool. We also had a lot of undead in different scenariors and being able to turn was great. I did some healing but whenever possible dropped a flamestrike or some such. I think if...
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  • Mistwell's Avatar
    Monday, 14th May, 2018, 06:46 AM
    We both know what a rhetorical question is. Notice, that's also not a question but a statement. We both know that was not a question you were asking, but rhetorical, and also snarky. Similar to how, "Do you know what "?" means?" is both rhetorical, and snarky. If you disagree (see - that's a question) then do please explain how the dex save stuff is in reply to the dwarf escaping stuff?
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    Monday, 14th May, 2018, 06:15 AM
    Hey captain strawman, that quote was not that point at all. You were replying to his dwarf escaping topic. I quoted it that way, and you quoted it that way, it all lined up as being that topic. Why are you pretending it had to do with Dex save issue when everyone can plainly see for themselves it was not? You can do both, but the quote I was replying to wasn't the point you're pretending...
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    Monday, 14th May, 2018, 03:59 AM
    The feat is intended primarily for fighters, paladins, barbarians and clerics. Dwarves are pretty popular for that subset of classes. Given dwarves are one of the very few classes that can get a bonus to strength, and sword and board is going to be a strength based build most of the time, it's going to be rather common for a dwarf to be the one fairly likely to be wanting this feat...until now...
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    Monday, 14th May, 2018, 03:48 AM
    I picked "Give me all the feats, 16 is fine with me", but that is in a way far from the truth. You see, I don't care about getting any pluses to the primary score to begin with. If it didn't shut down multiclassing, I'd even play PCs with a penalty to it. (Actually scratch that, sometimes I do it anyway).
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    Monday, 14th May, 2018, 02:26 AM
    You have to spell it out because that's not the words you used which I was objecting to. What you said was: You put "complicated" in quotes, and you described people who have issues with it as "scared". That's what I had a problem with. If that's not what you meant then what, did you expect people to read your mind? Why are you asking "why do I have to spell this out" when what you said...
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    Sunday, 13th May, 2018, 03:40 PM
    The difference is how we think about the same fact. My point is that this particular additional granularity doesn't do much for many players. You are right, one could take a feat or multiclass, whatever but is has a cost. I am fine with that too. From a narrative point it doesn't bother me either. If I was good at sneaking early on I am ok with more levels meaning I get better in similar...
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    Sunday, 13th May, 2018, 12:32 AM
    Your're straw-manning me. I was responding to the argument that the Dex benefits make it worth it. For which I said Resilient would be better for that. You removed that context (unsure if it was intentional) and pretended I had said I was responding to the "shield usage" part of it as opposed to the Dex benefits of it. And the "bad ruling" part of my argument had nothing to do with any of what...
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    Saturday, 12th May, 2018, 08:48 PM
    Not sure why you assumed I was speaking in theory. It's not something I said, or implied, and you never asked me. I am answering from my experience. Direct, actual experience for quite some time now, playing a PC with this feat. It's literally his only feat, so I am intimately familiar with it. You can even find other threads around here where I asked for advice on taking the feat before I...
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    Saturday, 12th May, 2018, 08:41 PM
    Contrast that with the words I wrote, which were: "Yes, you have the shield bonus to Dex saves now, which helps." Does that match "doesn't really benefit" to you? I said the ODDS are much worse in this scenario. Which is not a "strained" argument at all. You have two other issues going against you: 1) Your Dex was not naturally high because you're a Strength fighter, and 2) that bonus...
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    Saturday, 12th May, 2018, 05:23 PM
    Good point, I stand corrected.
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    Saturday, 12th May, 2018, 04:06 PM
    You're a sword and board user who does not benefit from Dex for attack and damage most of the time. But, you're one of the fighting classes, so you almost certainly have a high strength. IE, you almost certainly have a lower Dex in exchange for the higher Str. The rogue ability depends on making your Dex save to begin with. Yes, you have the shield bonus to Dex saves now, which helps....
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    Saturday, 12th May, 2018, 04:19 AM
    If he's using darkvision, he has a passive perception of 12, not 17. Darkvision changes darkness to dim light which is lightly obscured. In a lightly obscured area, such as dim light, creatures have disadvantage on Wisdom (Perception) checks. Under passive checks, if the character has disadvantage on the check, subtract 5. Hence, passive perception of 12. Which is...not so great.
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    Saturday, 12th May, 2018, 04:09 AM
    You've never waited online for Gencon tickets to go on sale then :) Cue, "That's combat!" retort.
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    Saturday, 12th May, 2018, 03:36 AM
    I just went and read the reddit thread. Gee whiz are those folks angry.
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    Saturday, 12th May, 2018, 03:11 AM
    Uh, I think they get pretty similar numbers these days actually. Do you have some reason to believe otherwise?
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    Saturday, 12th May, 2018, 03:05 AM
    It makes sense as far as game logic as written. X if Y, Y needs to be before X can be. If you have the Extra attack feature your attack action is two attacks. Honestly if this had ever arisen as a question at my table that's how I would have ruled it. From a role playing angle though the whole thing makes no sense at all. Why is there a condition on bashing with your shield? It makes even less...
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    Saturday, 12th May, 2018, 02:08 AM
    Exactly
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    Friday, 11th May, 2018, 11:56 PM
    His stated reason was he felt it was "cheese". He did not start out saying it was a mistake he said it was a "clarification". As if his prior ruling was somehow "unclear". This really is the first time I am thinking OK, Crawford is going down that 4e road for minor balance reasons. It leaves me with a sense of mistrust for his decisionmaking now.
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    Friday, 11th May, 2018, 10:51 PM
    That's a very 4e type "Don't rely on the books or sage advice as either can be errata'ed for minor balance reasons at any time" type ruling. Very bad precedent to set.
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Sunday, 20th May, 2018

  • 04:16 AM - FrogReaver mentioned Mistwell in post Shield master on twitter
    Mistwell Oofta I just realized 5ekyu has me blocked so I take it all back. Give him heck for whatever the heck you desire!!! Thanks for doing the needful. :)
  • 03:55 AM - FrogReaver mentioned Mistwell in post Shield master on twitter
    @Mistwell You said: "Don't accuse people of trying to change the subject because of some tactic or something - it's a legit issue that you're dismissing. It's just a rudeness issue that you can easily address...so why not address it?" I say: As long as your words are attributed correctly then what does it actually matter how that is actually accomplished? This is much ado about nothing IMO. In fact it's more rude and even more of an issue that we are even having to take time to address how you are being quoted (because you somehow declare it to be rude). Goodness Gracious...

Wednesday, 16th May, 2018

  • 01:07 AM - Oofta mentioned Mistwell in post Shield master on twitter
    Maybe you didnít see the post where I stated that Iíve given up trying to engage with this? No examples will change your mind. Why bother? You have made some pretty grandiose claims. I'd be curious on why, for example, the shove tactic works for you and why you think it can "destroy" the enemy because I just don't see it. Mistwell may be a bit harsh, but at the same time you've made claims that don't seem to add up. For example with the shove and walk away (assuming shover has same movement rate as shovee) it simply wouldn't work very well. So I've got to wonder if you play theater of the mind, have the same group and DM, always play in wide open spaces, etc. I can see a few scenarios, assuming that PC Sam (who has shield master) shoves an Orc and then moves away. Other PCs in the group include Monty the Monk and Randy the Ranger. Scenario 1: Orc has a buddy Bob, also adjacent to Sam before the shove. Bob gets an opp attack if Sam runs away. No good. Scenario 2: Orc, no longer able to get to Sam goes after Monty who is within 30 feet after the shove and attacks him instead. Monty has a lower AC than Sam. No good. Scenario 3:Orc, no longer able to get to Sam, Monty or Randy moves and dashes to get next to Randy so he has disadvantage on his ranged attacks. No good. Scenario 4: Sam can't g...

Tuesday, 15th May, 2018

  • 08:30 PM - warfteiner mentioned Mistwell in post Lost Tales of Myth Drannor: DDAL's "Secret" D&D Book For Gen Con 50
    CapnZapp - No, you didn't come across that way at all. On the same token, my apologies if I came across snappish; not my intention. We're looking for awesome ways to incentive public play when we attend events, and Lost Tales happened to be our thing for 2017. As much as I'd love to say that I did it for the money (I do need at least two more shiny nickels in my collection!) it was really to provide something cool and unexpected for our public play people across the world. Future things will almost certainly be along these same lines. Mistwell - We started handing them out at Gen Con last year and continued doing so throughout the summer, fall, winter, and now spring of 2018. A couple admins still have copies - I only have my personal 2 copies left out of my original ~160 or so - and we've sent a ton of them to various locations all around the world. I sent them to Australia, a couple events in Russia, some in Italy, and even some to Israel last fall. The adventures don't have to be played at conventions, but that's just the most common way to get a copy of the book. As above, our intention is to reward the dedicated folks that attend public play events. The market on those things will crash, and hard, upon the digital release. We assumed that it would take roughly a year to get it that way, though, due to the huge number of other tasks that we're working on.

Thursday, 10th May, 2018

  • 11:58 AM - Jacob Lewis mentioned Mistwell in post Mordenkainens starting to show up in the wild?
    Mistwell Thank you! For that reasonable, rational, mature, and unemotional response. And for that Skeletor gif! I think I watched it for a minute before reading the rest of your response. And you're right. I could post my thoughts and ideas on system neutral topics, as I have in the past. I still do sometimes. But mostly I just read and don't always have time for posting. Not unless I think I have something funny to say. And it's not always as funny as I think it is, and it's never funny for everyone. Some people take their hobbies way too seriously. I like to think that I am lightening the mood. Most of the time... Anyway. I am not concerned with appeasing everyone else, though I do my best not to cross certain lines. Morrus (and a few others) keep me in check. I poke fun at everything, and if it gets some laughs, great! Mostly they go unnoticed or ignored, and that's fine too. I've played the game for almost four decades, been through edition changes, forum battles, much like many other...

Monday, 7th May, 2018

  • 02:36 PM - lowkey13 mentioned Mistwell in post [+] Plus Threads
    Your disagreement is noted. If he wants to take it into consideration, he may do so. For now, there is not so much adversity as to be a big deal, in terms of moderation. As most experiments, it will be monitored. It'll take off, fall flat, or blow up, as experiments do. That's okay. I'm just going to add that I happen to agree with Mistwell The use of (+) threads, not marked by rule, might work in carefully limited circumstances, of which I can think of two- a. Rules questions (or other "short" threads). b. Fan threads. "I love FR. Don't you?" While I hesitate to get into this, I have seen that this has been employed by only one poster, and that they have used it on expansive topics in order to police them. Maybe that's what we want, but I don't think so. For the most part, we should be able to rely on the overall forum rules for civility and the fact that we are all good & honorable gamers in order to keep conversations going. Just my two cents.

Friday, 4th May, 2018

  • 10:28 AM - CapnZapp mentioned Mistwell in post [+] Plus Threads
    Here's the Meta post Morrus wrote on the subject, Mistwell: It's something I've considered before in different forms - answer threads, for example, where someone asks a question and the responses should be (attempts at) factual answers. I think Straight Dope handles that well - one of its forums, there's a rule where the initial post must be a question seeking a factual answer (rather than a debate) and responses must be factual answers. I think that's going too far for us, but a category of threads like that might not be a bad idea. I'm tempted to give it a try. So the [+] notation means support/factual - i.e. stay on topic, address what the poster asks. Here's a plus thread Morrus started, with his own definition: Following on the FR and Greyhawk threads The [+] tag is something I'm trying. It means positive stuff in the spirit of the thread title. If you *don't* love Dragonlance, this thread is not the place to inform us. You are welcome to start your own threads! So, why do you love Dragonlance? To me, "stay on topic" p...

Tuesday, 20th March, 2018

  • 06:26 PM - Gadget mentioned Mistwell in post The Contagion Spell
    Mistwell, you're interpretation fails to take into account the definition of the word "afflict" and the word "recover". Your bold emphasis is merely a clause that defines the duration of the effects, not when they begin.

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Monday, 5th March, 2018

  • 08:30 PM - Satyrn mentioned Mistwell in post Feats: Do they stifle creativity and reduce options?
    I utterly fail to see the point here. Take the feat and you are so good at it that you automatically succeed when attempting the feat related skill. If you do not have the feat then you "might" pull off the action if you describe it well enough and make whatever related skill check the DM gives you. Where is the stifling because I do not see it. What I do kind of see is the potential for character to over optimize for specific situation and then attempt to "role play" there way around blatant character deficiencies. You know, the life of min-maxers and superior feeling "senior" gamers. I think Mistwell kinda skewed the conversation the wrong way by focusing on any specific feat. Because you disagree with his analysis of this feat (and I do, too) it distracts from what his analysis was meant to illustrate. It winds up a poor illustration of his point. Anyway, I find the stifling comes from feeling like the feat is required to an inspiring leader, and so I'm less inclined to do inspiring leader stuff without the feat. But worse than that, as a DM in 3e, I've found myself ruling on how well a player's behaved based on the feats and features the player didn't have, and I felt like I was ripping them off.

Sunday, 4th March, 2018

  • 02:04 AM - FrogReaver mentioned Mistwell in post Feats: Do they stifle creativity and reduce options?
    Mistwell Thank you for creating this thread and for finally getting "it" :) I think we need to differentiate between options in the mechanical space and options in the conceptual space. Very few feats add more to the conceptual space than they take away.

Saturday, 3rd March, 2018

  • 11:49 PM - shidaku mentioned Mistwell in post Feats: Do they stifle creativity and reduce options?
    ...t the heart of my thoughts on this topic. :erm: So I guess I'll just bow out. Let me put it this way: As a long-time optimizer, the specific build of my PC has very little to do with who they are as a character. Now, maybe I'm the odd man out but it seems to me that all something like GWM or Shield Master says about your character is that they're good with these things. Doesn't say how you got good with them. Doesn't say why you're good with them. Just says you are. The how, the why, those are the elements you fill in through role-play. Sure, certain classes imply certain things about those hows and whys but those implications are often very small. Heck, Backgrounds say more about who your character is than their build. Hermit, for example, says a whole lot of things! Far Traveler on the other hand says very little. But GWM? That says nothing about your character other than you are skilled with big weapons. Mmm kinda lost my train of thought there... So when people like Mistwell or pming say that feats can restrict mechanical options, I can at least see their argument, especially when it plays to a much more "Try anything!" style of D&D (which I have been part of and didn't particularly care for). But when the argument becomes "These mechanical options limit my role-play options!" I'm just left scratching my head. I get it if someone feels pressured to take GWM when they really want to use *something else* because they're being pressured to increase their DPR...but that's not an issue with rules or options, that's an issue with table behaviour. It's one reason you'll rarely see healers, tanks or support-style characters in my games because I'm very big on "Play what you want to play." And I really don't see how, when someone like pming comes along and says that "fewer options increase creativity". Regardless of if we're talking about feats, races, classes or whatever. I mean...I guess people could feel limited by the built-in fluff of a race? But does...

Tuesday, 27th February, 2018

  • 04:01 AM - ppaladin123 mentioned Mistwell in post [GUIDE] Bow Bond: An Eldritch Knightís guide to Archery
    "This was saved verbatim by @Mistwell when the WotC message boards closed down over two years ago. He's not the original author and made no changes to any of the many guides he preserved." Feel free to create a new guide if you are so incensed by a freely provided archiving effort by person who has contributed to this board for over 15 years.

Saturday, 24th February, 2018

  • 06:18 PM - Blue mentioned Mistwell in post [GUIDE] Bow Bond: An Eldritch Knightís guide to Archery
    Hand Crossbows are no where near as good as you think they are. You CANNOT use a shield with hand-crossbows, there is no debate according to the core rules. The Ammunition property clearly states you need a free hand to load, the extra hand for loading is NOT part of the loading property of crossbows, hence removing the loading property via crossbow expert does not allow you to load the crossbow with only one hand. Please read the rules carefully before trying to post guides, I shudder at the many people who actually think hand crossbow + shield is actually a thing I'm for reading comprehension. I'd start with the second sentence, which is in big, bold letters: As originally published by MightyThokk on the Wizards of the Coast message boards This was saved verbatim by Mistwell when the WotC message boards closed down over two years ago. He's not the original author and made no changes to any of the many guides he preserved. Back then the ability of Crossbow expert as printed in the PHB was "You ignore the loading quality of crossbows which you are proficient". Ignore - as in those rules do not come into play. So at that time, this was the correct ruling. It's been clarified since. You may want to be careful about throwing out strongly worded criticisms that you have all of your details correct in the first place.

Tuesday, 23rd January, 2018

  • 04:47 AM - 77IM mentioned Mistwell in post Mearls' "Firing" tweet
    Mistwell: I don't think the word "gatekeeping" means the same thing to you that it does to me.
  • 02:08 AM - Parmandur mentioned Mistwell in post Marathon, Broadway, and Catacomb: Upcoming D&D Products?
    Where did they say Marathon was in Layout in November? Seems extremely early to me.From Mistwell's transcript of the panel: "Every product being released in 2018 has either been written, or is being written. One is at the tail end of the editing/layout process. Another is in the playtest phase. A third is in the finalizing development phase. And a fourth Mearls won't talk about at all. So, looks like four major products for 2018." So, these are most likely Marathon, Broadway, Catacombs and maybe a surprise, respectively. The timing of these statements and the UA releases suggests that Marathon was just about done, and Catacombs was being tested out at that time. Sent from my [device_name] using EN World mobile app
  • 01:40 AM - darjr mentioned Mistwell in post Mearls' "Firing" tweet
    Mistwell; Itís not about the complexity, he means the gatekeepers that use the Lore and complexity as a bludgeon.

Thursday, 14th December, 2017

  • 03:18 PM - Sadras mentioned Mistwell in post Skyrim supplement for D&D 5e
    @Mistwell, @Sacrosanct and @Ovinomancer 1. Our group has an Obsidian Portal site for our campaigns, from time to time I as DM dress it up with pretty pics from the net, while the players poach pics for their characters. 2. Furthermore I might take entire excerpts from modules or campaign settings from WotC/TSR material and include them for reading purposes for our play group. 3. Lastly, our Obsidian Portal page is marked as public. Where are we falling afoul or at risk? I'm merely asking because I imagine hundreds of other groups out there are doing the same - wouldn't something like Obsidian Portal be at risk with all these copyright infringements?

Friday, 1st December, 2017

  • 09:59 PM - MoonSong mentioned Mistwell in post Survivor XGTE New Subclasses - SHADOW MAGIC WINS!
    DOWNVOTES ARE THREE. PLEASE COPY AND PASTE THIS. Ancestral Guardians 18 Storm Herald 14 Zealot 7 College of Swords 5 College of Glamour 10 College of Whispers 18 Forge Domain 24 Grave Domain 21 Circle of Shepherds 19 Cavalier 21 Samurai 20 Kensei 19 Gloom Stalker 22 Horizon Walker 20 Monster Slayer 20 Inquisitive 6 Mastermind 13 Scout 24 Swashbuckler 13 Divine Soul 24 Shadow Magic 23 Storm Sorcerer 20 Celestial 23 @Mistwell - now you're getting what this thread is all about! I'm targeting Divine Soul because of an attack on my Glamour Bard. It's not about picking the best choice, it's about settling petty grievances! You know you just painted a giant target mark for all people voting Divine soul to go after Glamour Bard, don't you?. gyor Mistwell n_n?
  • 05:17 PM - Kobold Stew mentioned Mistwell in post Survivor XGTE New Subclasses - SHADOW MAGIC WINS!
    FIXING CROSSPOSTING DOWNVOTES ARE THREE. PLEASE COPY AND PASTE THIS. Ancestral Guardians 18 Storm Herald 17 Zealot 8 College of Swords 8 College of Glamour 13 College of Whispers 20 Forge Domain 24 Grave Domain 24 Circle of Shepherds 19 Cavalier 21 Samurai 20 Kensei 19 Gloom Stalker 21 Horizon Walker 19 Monster Slayer 20 Inquisitive 9 Mastermind 13 Scout 24 Swashbuckler 12 Divine Soul 25 Shadow Magic 23 Storm Sorcerer 20 Celestial 26


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Saturday, 26th May, 2018

  • 05:33 PM - Parmandur quoted Mistwell in post Core+1
    What combinations between the PHB and two other books do you think are notably unbalanced in ways that are not present in PHB itself or PHB plus one?To be fair, hilarious language of the practice being "reprehensible" aside, WotC has stated that PHB +1 is a design principle that they follow, not worrying about how Volo's Guide races stats interact with SCAG subclasses when working on them. Balance in 5E is slick enough that I don't see any particularly broken combos, but the designers are only working with PHB combos when making a new book. And this is good.
  • 05:07 PM - CapnZapp quoted Mistwell in post Core+1
    What combinations between the PHB and two other books do you think are notably unbalanced in ways that are not present in PHB itself or PHB plus one? None. How so? The rule was put in place long before this became the consensus, though.

Friday, 25th May, 2018

  • 10:45 PM - cbwjm quoted Mistwell in post Core+1
    It does. It's not in the character builder part, but in your campaign section. You turn off the content you don't want for your access to the campaign prior to using the character generator.Oh cool. I've never used the campaign tools, just the character builder. That's good to know though.
  • 05:58 PM - FarBeyondC quoted Mistwell in post Core+1
    WHAT. SPECIFIC. THINGS. DID. YOUR. PLAYERS. WANT. THAT. THEY. COULD. NOT. DO? Not anyone else but myself, but here's an example with specificity: Technically speaking, I can play a tiefling (because they're in the phb) and be anything I want. However, I can't play a tiefling with a variant appearance and do the same, because wanting to have a forked tongue or tail locks me into using the Sword Coast Adventure Guide. Which makes no sense to me. WHAT. CANTRIPS? Booming Blade, Greenflame Blade, Sword Burst (If you count burst attacks as melee)- all from SCAG. Is Gith even out yet? I thought that's in a book that what, is coming out right now? Been out in select locations since the 18th, which is plenty of time to look at it, decide to want to change a character in order to incorporate something from it, and get told that you can't do that and be a war wizard.
  • 04:54 PM - TwoSix quoted Mistwell in post Core+1
    It would be nice if they added a few things to the Basic game. Putting Eladrin in there (when they were already mentioned directly in a section of the DMG) would make sense and solve those problems. Yea, just make a "best of" list that counts as always available for AL, update it once a year or so, and make it a handy little PDF to download, and I'm fine. I can understand trying to restrict kenkus and aasimar and kobolds, but having to use your +1 just to get a slightly different flavor of elf seems silly.
  • 03:55 PM - TwoSix quoted Mistwell in post Core+1
    But you can use a rogue with those cantrips. The only thing you couldn't do is use one of the few subclasses in Xanathars, and some races. True, but I had just purchased Xanathar's and was looking forward to using it. Not a big deal, just a bit of a bummer. Honestly, considering how diffuse the rules material is, and how much the volume of crunch differs between books, I'd like to see them at least make a distinction between minor crunch supplements (SCAG, MToF) and major ones (VgtM, XgtE). I don't see why picking Eladrin should bar you from picking a Xanathar's spell, or being a Bladesinger(!).
  • 12:36 PM - TwoSix quoted Mistwell in post Core+1
    WHAT. CANTRIPS? Cantrips are at-will attacks. Determining your baseline attack pattern is a pretty big deal, especially if you're not a caster. Getting access to GFB/BB is a pretty big deal for rogues in particular. I made some AL characters for a con last year, and I immediately took rogue out of my option list because of lack of access to those cantrips.
  • 06:40 AM - cbwjm quoted Mistwell in post Core+1
    WHAT. SPECIFIC. THINGS. DID. YOUR. PLAYERS. WANT. THAT. THEY. COULD. NOT. DO? "race" and "spells" and "Multiclass" are not specific, they are general. When people around here are speaking in hypotheticals about something they think could be a problem but they have not actually been playing so much that it really came up, they tend to answer the way you're answering right now. Someone says, "Specifcs?" and they answer "Theory". Asked again "Specific?" and they answer "generalities". Usually by the time you get to "Specifics?" a third time, you get a manufactured answer of what they've read on the boards a couple times. WHAT. CANTRIPS? Is Gith even out yet? I thought that's in a book that what, is coming out right now? The player had to physically select more than one additional sourcebook to get that to happen.I dunno, a race seems like a pretty specific option, so does a subclass. Reading about the gith and then reading about the war mage and thinking that would be awesome but then fi...
  • 05:19 AM - jgsugden quoted Mistwell in post Core+1
    That's nice. What exactly are the options involving three books (PHB+2) that you're seeing?The options when a player wishes to use three plus books that I am suggesting are listed above. If you're asking something other than what I would suggest should be the rule if people wish to use content from more than core + 1, be clear about what you want because that is what you seem to be asking. We seem to have a recurring problem here. I say something, and then you respond to me but appear to be responding to some other thing in your answer. It's like I asked what your favorite color was, and you answered "I like soup." Again, if you feel like people are not answering your question, consider that you might be failing to ask it clearly. I guess I will rephrase and try again? You said you observed "Players are frustrated when they can't play options because a seemingly arbitrary rule." What is it your players wanted that they couldn't do under the existing AL rules? Not in the hypothetical, but what...
  • 12:19 AM - jgsugden quoted Mistwell in post Core+1
    What exactly are the options involving three books (PHB +2) that you're seeing?Well, my suggestion above addresses the situation entirely. The number of books does not matter if you're only restricting offending options within books rather than blacklisting books as a whole upon selecting one of the other books. Obviously, you can just allow everything and address the optics that the Core +1 addresses with a sales pitch that everything is balanced, even if you just have the PHB - thus no limitations are necessary. The other books provide more options, but you don't need them to have fun, be competitive or otherwise be in a balanced and equal footing. By your perspective (which only worries about selling them at the moment they decide to play), it doesn't even matter if it is true as long as they believe it. That addresses a tailored approach that only targets offending material, and a broad approach that says the limitation is not worth the actual benefit of the rule - both of which c...

Thursday, 24th May, 2018

  • 10:30 PM - jgsugden quoted Mistwell in post Core+1
    ....I really don't think your proposal would hook as many new players and you're hand waiving those draw backs, and simultaneously I think you're exaggerating the number of people who are truly bothered by this or who cannot get around this issue.As you quote your incidental observations, I quote mine: Players are frustrated when they can't play options because a seemingly arbitrary rule. And as for whether a well presented version of a rule along the lines of my proposal would hook more or less players than Core +1: We'll never know for sure. However, as people can sell pretty much anything - even real @#$% - with a good marketing campaign, I feel comfortable in my position. Offering comfort to new players, as you note, is a matter of optics, and relying upon new players to Deduce that Core +1 significantly levels the playing field, when in fact that is actually not true (as you can 'lock' in your character into a bad choice when you don't know the game - and even if you have the option t...
  • 09:47 PM - jgsugden quoted Mistwell in post Core+1
    Yes you can re-do anything below level 5 anyway.Yes, I should have said that he gets to level 6, etc... And regardless, the underlying problem at the core is that he wants to play something and is told "NO." Not because it breaks the game. Not because it gives him an unfair advantage. Just because the features happen to be in separate books. You can achieve all the benefits of the Core +1 system with a properly packed but more versatile system. There are a lot of options. It is an oversimplified system that annoys a lot of players needlessly.
  • 09:06 PM - jgsugden quoted Mistwell in post Core+1
    That's not what I mean by equal. You seem really hung up on these issues of balance and equality rather than the concept I am getting at which has zero to do with those issues in the game. I am talking purely about the perception of a new player approaching the game. Thank you for trying to frame the entire conversation and say only your concern matters, but there are other concerns. Assume they know nothing. All they want to know is, in that very moment (not the future) if they buy into the game will they FEEL LIKE they're not far behind. Right then, as they enter the game.And at that moment, being asked to IMPLY there is no problem because there is a Core +1 Rule rather than being TOLD EXPLICITLY that they've created rules tailored to avoid the problem is not going to be inherently better. Odds are once they get into the game these issues will go away. So future books are irrelevant, and the reality of balance and equality once actually playing is irrelevant. All I am addressing is t...
  • 07:03 PM - jgsugden quoted Mistwell in post Core+1
    ...If players know that ALL other players can only use one extra book going in, that gives them the sense they can never "fall behind" in their choice to enter the game. That it's not a game which involves buying a lot of books. That if they only ever buy one extra book they will be on equal footing (in their mind) with all other players.Again, not true. If the book I use is great at the time, but later on a superbook is introduced, other players that have not yet used their +1 have access to those elements for their PC - and I do not for mine. It will not be equal footing if the books are not equal. That doesn't have to be reality. I am not talking about whether the game has or should function that way when actually playing, I am talking about THE PERCEPTION IT CREATES IN THE MIND OF A POTENTIAL NEW PLAYER. So no, no list of balancing different things and abusive versus non-abusive combinations and such. That doesn't achieve the same goal at all and in fact might feed the opposite goal. It...
  • 06:20 PM - pogre quoted Mistwell in post Core+1
    It sends the message that for organized play you are not in any way "falling behind" if you opt to buy just one expansion book and that's all. This is absolutely correct. It lowers the hurdles for new players. It is a rule in AL for exactly the same reason they have Standard format in MtG. It makes entry into the game easy. It is a simple and accessible rule that does the job. I think it is a legitimate concern that it leads to some reprinting and lax game design. However, this edition is still mostly crushing it - that says something this far along.
  • 03:26 PM - jgsugden quoted Mistwell in post Core+1
    It sends the message that for organized play you are not in any way "falling behind" if you opt to buy just one expansion book and that's all. Now experienced players may believe rightly that there is no falling behind if you don't buy all the expansion books, but new players also reasonably might get that sense. So sending that message is powerful for new players. The sense that you're entering a hobby mid-stream and need to play catch up if you want to join is a deterrent to joining and this helps alleviate it. Which makes it a wise rule.Of course, a list that limits abusive concepts and expressly states the intent of the list is to maintain balance for players that have not bought all the books, but preserves the most options available that are not out of balance also achieves the same goal with the same message *explicitly* made. Further, a player that buys the PHB and most recent book and starts to play right now can still be quite upset when he discovers that another book has opt...

Tuesday, 22nd May, 2018


Monday, 21st May, 2018

  • 10:17 PM - Oofta quoted Mistwell in post Players should play, and not be heard: Campaign Edition
    So...how would you feel about an all-Paladin campaign? Serious question. Assume for this hypothetical the DM has taken ownership of their campaign setting and has a good, thoughtful setting he's passionate about it and put a lot of time into creating an evocative setting. In this setting, you're a party of crusaders (all paladins) sent by a secret group of the dominate religious order of your society to rescue a holy relic from the heart of the invading armies stronghold, which was left behind and hidden by your order when fleeing the invading army. The fate of your civilization rests on your shoulders, as it looks like without this relic your society will perish to the invading enemy. You may have just inspired my campaign. Because how terrifying would it be for an enemy to have to face a party of all paladins, combined with a Three Musketeers motif all dual wielding rapiers? 97729 And yes, I think this thread has gotten too serious for it's own good.
  • 09:08 PM - lowkey13 quoted Mistwell in post Players should play, and not be heard: Campaign Edition
    So...how would you feel about an all-Paladin campaign? Serious question. Assume for this hypothetical the DM has taken ownership of their campaign setting and has a good, thoughtful setting he's passionate about it and put a lot of time into creating an evocative setting. In this setting, you're a party of crusaders (all paladins) sent by a secret group of the dominate religious order of your society to rescue a holy relic from the heart of the invading armies stronghold, which was left behind and hidden by your order when fleeing the invading army. The fate of your civilization rests on your shoulders, as it looks like without this relic your society will perish to the invading enemy. I don't answer impossible hypotheticals. A good, thoughtful setting with paladins?!?!?! HA! HA! No. What next? Imagining a gnome that was so cool that the person playing him wasn't ridiculous?
  • 11:53 AM - Doc_Klueless quoted Mistwell in post Darkvision: Don't forget the Disadvantage & limitations!
    I don't recall any request of such by the OP. Just an observation by them that some people forget that a creature with darkvision has disadvantage on Perception checks in darkness. ... Simply an observation and a reminder that dungeons are more dangerous when you remember that a creature with darkvision has disadvantage on their Perception checks when in darkness. I don't think the OP is asking for a houserule. He appears to be encouraging people to remember the rule about disadvantage. While both of these are true about my OP, posts are like children. You raise them as best as you can. But once they leave the house they're on their own! I've found the topic interesting, for the most part.


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