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Here we are @BluSponge , @Olgar Shiverstone , @Quickleaf , and anyone else interested, of course. That took significantly more time and effort than I expected (or wanted) to expend...but I think it all worked out fairly well. Naturally, a single set of eyes other than mine will notice some obvious mistakes/problems/inconsistencies (and thank you for that). I think there are tings in the progession chart that I had wrong/renamed or forgot to include...but it's all in the descriptions. Look forward to hearing any thoughts or comments, of course, but probably best to leave them in my Ranger Rehash thread in the Homebrews sub-forum so as not to derail this thread with this business any further. Have at ye!

...whatever group they are leading at the time, be it their adventuring group, a company, or a whole army). Doing so either allows all members of the group to recover hit points equivalent to the Warlord’s Wisdom or Charisma modifier times ½ the allies level (minimum of 1), or free all members of the group from non-magical fear (the Frightened condition), or reduce any effects due to exhaustion by one level. The group must be within hearing range of the Warlord, and only affects members not at 0 hit points. Command Actions (in-work) Individual tactics or maneuvers - based on Battlemaster maneuvers, 4E Warlord powers, etc. @fuindordm @Tony Vargas @GMforPowergamers @Hussar @cbwjm @epithet @MoonSong(Kaiilurker) @bert1000 EzekielRaiden @Manbearcat @Uchawi @Ashkelon @Eric V @pemerton @Jester Canuck @Bluenose @Minigiant @I'm A Banana @aramis erak @Warbringer @Leatherhead @ehren37 @Winterthorn @TheHobgoblin @Neonchameleon @Obryn @Imaro @nomotog @Ashrym @The_Gneech @Remathilis @Olgar Shiverstone @Sacrosanct @Gimul @Twiggly the Gnome @CapnZapp @MechaPilot @kerbarian @Psikerlord# @jgsugden @DEFCON 1

I think ultimately I have to agree with @Olgar Shiverstone. If there's not an "active" Trek RPG system at the moment, it's because there's not a game company out there that sees it as being able to produce a decent ROI. The REASONS game companies view it that way may be some, all, or none of the reasons covered in this thread. If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say the two most likely reasons are highly intertwined---legal/licensing, and then determining which of the Trek series are relevant to be included in the system. Even if you have a license for the entire property, and not just for say, Next Generation, what kind of game to make out of it? Do you try and make it a "fully canonical," kitchen-sink system where every flavor of Trek is represented in some way? Or do you only focus on the Kirk/Spock era, or the Picard era, etc.? Either way, you're kind of setting yourself up for fan dissatisfaction. If it's kitchen sink, the die hards of one era or another may feel their favorite piece of the canon is underrepresented. If you focus on jus...

...oup definitely struggled with this when playing a Star Wars Saga campaign. Space combat was fun for the pilot and sort of for the gunners but boring for the rest of us. My character manned a couple of support positions (I think engineering and communications) and my turns boiled down to a single skill check. We discussed the situation with the GM and he tried spicing things up by having other stuff happen on the ship while the combat occurred. The trouble was that every space combat then had to be plagued with something else (e.g., intruders on board, damage in the ship to fix, etc.), which made for a cumbersome narrative. Maybe you could give the support roles a way to hinder the enemy. The enemies get a bonus while they are able to communicate with each other. The communications officer can jam their communications or hack into some remote functions of their ship. But it would need to have its own minigame so it would be more interesting than a series of skill checks. Maybe Olgar Shiverstone 's card game would well work for this. FASA gave that a good shot back in the 1980s with their Star Trek RPG, but I feel they fell short. How did the FASA Star Trek fall short to you? I bought a copy of it a while ago because I heard good things about the space combat but it's wall of text poor readability discouraged me from reading just a bit of it.

Flipping is the bane of modules. . . It was VERY difficult. a format that is CLEAR, CONCISE and CONSISTENT. Heard, understood, and acknowledged. This is going at the top my my design board. Olgar Shiverstone: yes, I'm pretty sure the Delve was it. And you're right, it was all about combat. But I'm not sure that it can't be used in other ways as well. . . What if every encounter has its own page or two-page spread, all immediately relevant information is guaranteed (reprinted) to be on one of those pages, and all secondary information is referenced with a page number? 2. I'd like to go a step further, actually, and give each bit of information an "element number," so you can not only find your page quickly, but you can find what you need on that page (this paragraph would be element #2). In addition, an element number could facilitate some cross referencing. For example: 3. Gilladian. This ENworld member contributed to the Adventure Module Format thread in December, after Olgar Shiverstone (p.2 e.6), and submitted the Clear, Concise, Consistent rule (p.2 e.9). Carries a quarterstaff and spell book (contains the Clear and Consistent spells).

Olgar Shiverstone (and others feeling this adventure is a railroad), I'm curious what you thought of Neuroglyph's recent review of Hoard of the Dragon Queen? Overall, the adventure arc is designed to be quite sandbox-y, or more aptly, a series of mini-sandboxes right from the first episode. Wolfgang made mention of the fact that as designers who have played D&D through multiple editions, they “were drawn toward an older style of play” for Hoard of the Dragon Queen, where not every encounter is fought, but some are resolved through trickery, negotiation, or simply avoided altogether. Read more here: http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?358765-4-out-of-5-rating-for-Hoard-of-the-Dragon-Queen Because it looks like we are getting vastly different reviews on the same dang product. Some folks say its a railroad, others that it's a sandbox!

That's about the extent of the information you get for PCs in Prince Valiant. http://www.creativemountaingames.com/2011/07/prince-valiant-storytelling-game-1989.html Thank you for the link, great summary and story. Our group would have definitely enjoyed that. While that is unquestionably roleplaying I would argue that it is not D&D or at least it doesn not reflect the essence of D&D. I do not need a bunch of rule books to run that sort of game, I just need a bit of a story & player buy in. From this I gather that for you a bunch of rule books reflect the essence of D&D, or at least you seem to imply this from the quote above. I think I'd rather prefer @Olgar Shiverstone's sig, being a quote from WizarDru "The Soul of D&D? It's rolling a natural 20 when you're down to 3 hit points and the cleric's on the floor and you're staring that sunnavabitch bugbear right in his bloodshot eye and holding the line just long enough to let the wizard unleash a fireball at the guards who are on their way, because they're all that stands between you, the Foozle and Glory." - WizarDru The reason I am able to run a game like the one I have described is because of my experience as a DM and reading the bunch of rule books you reflect as the essence of D&D. A DM determines the level of difficulty for many tasks in every edition - which is exactly what I was doing for each one of the pillars. Determining if the task was easy, medium, hard..etc based on the situation in the narrative. So I'd argue what we played was and is D&D. We will have to just agree to continue arguing :p I do not find these have the longevity of games that engage on multiple levels though. P...

...ism. <snip breakdown> I think the only way the perception of those things come together is if the GM suspends 1 (secretly) when required to attain 3, and suspends some or all of (a) or (c) in 2 as required to maintain the overall illusion of the three agendas working in harmony (rather than the total discord that inevitably emerges as they push against each other).Looks right to me! Also, LostSoul, I've probably been guilty of being that GM on occasions in the past - especially in my early RM days - as I haven't known properly how to keep all my balls in the air! Illusionism is somewat derogatory; I prefer protagonism. Basically it is the same thing, but openly declared; <snip> The Paizo adventure paths, and specifically the players guides that come with them, are very much in this vein, so I think it can be said to be pretty mainstream.I think you are correct that it is pretty mainstream. I think that mainstream-ness may be what informs your post upthread (and also Olgar Shiverstone) saying that a good RPG should do all 4 playstyles at once. I guess my question is, in what sense is this sort of play really giving you wargaming or realism-sim? If the GM manipulates action resolution to produce the plot-appropriate outcomes, where is the wargaming? And how is the game being run as a sim? Those aren't rhetorical questions, they're genuine. But they're also sceptical to this limited extent: that when I've seen, or played under, GMs running this sort of game, it plays out pretty much as Pulsipher describes in his article: player skill and choice is subordinated to the GM's priorities. But I'm sure I haven't seen everything there is to see under the sun!

Oh yeah? In my campaign everyone starts the game with a death save, laying in a ditch covered with a tarp. I do it Traveller style. They might not even live through character creation! Edit: Olgar Shiverstone beat me to this on page 8... :-)

This is something I've realized in 10+ years of gaming (damn I've gotten old!) If the dice had gone the other way, the player might have died, the party might have died...the campaign might have ended as an unremarkable exercise. But the fact that it didn't....makes it a tale that your group will probably tell from years to come. Over time, I've had both experiences. I have had characters just go down due to the bad rolls, forever forgotten. And at the time it sucks. But ultimately, it is worth it! It is worth having those risky moments, it is worth having characters die in obscurity, so that there are times when scenes and characters become immortal in a gaming groups mind. This comes back to WizarDru's "Soul of D&D" quote, which I love, and apparently so does Olgar Shiverstone: "The Soul of D&D? It's rolling a natural 20 when you're down to 3 hit points and the cleric's on the floor and you're staring that sunnavabitch bugbear right in his bloodshot eye and holding the line just long enough to let the wizard unleash a fireball at the guards who are on their way, because they're all that stands between you, the Foozle and Glory." - WizarDru

... mean? That you end up tipping your hand as DM too early? But on the other hand the pre-generated content is often too "long", or too "strictly", or does not fit my group good enough. Join the club? ;) Pretty much every DM I know tweaks other people's modules for the reasons you give. As I'm not the best storywriter I was thinking about if some of you out there has some concepts, ideas, methods on how to build good adventures. Before we go much further, could you really clarify what you mean by "not the best story writer"? Folks have all kinds of ideas about what 'Story' means in regards to RPGs, so it would be good to get a better sense of where you're coming from first. And one last thing: I'm quite good at improvising and using instant ideas at the table. My weak spot are the planning before the sessions. You sound like the kind of DM who'd do really well with a one-page adventure flowchart in front of you, and not much else needed. But that's just a hunch. Also, Olgar Shiverstone has good advice, heed it.

howandwhy99 It's been a while since I've played, and I am re-reading the Rules Cyclopedia, but I don't recall the rule you're referring to that sounds a lot like an opportunity attack. Could you clarify that? What I do recall is that spellcasting is ruined if the caster is hit in combat. So maybe the missile/magic/melee phases are to allow spellcasters to get off their spells in the event of an initiative tie? Olgar Shiverstone Well, the way BD&D works is that if one side wins initiative (a straight opposed d6 roll), then that side takes all of their phases at the same time. Side #1 gets their missile, magic, and melee phase BEFORE side #2. So your theory about it being to let mages get off their spells is, at least from what I'm reading on Rules Cyclopedia page 102, appears to be mostly incorrect. The *only* time that it seems that mages are favored this way (spells first) is when initiative is tied and both sides go simultaneously. My understanding, in that case, is side #1 and side #2's archers go first, then both sides casters go, and lastly both sides melee combatants go. Do I have that wrong?

I think that was very interesting, informative, and a must watch. I especially love pointing out that they told you to buy hex maps. I also loved that bit, partly because I very recently bought a copy of Outdoor Survival just to see what these notorious hex maps were all about. (I was quite disappointed.) I really enjoyed the video as a whole and I'd like to echo Olgar Shiverstone's suggestion to mattcolville to include a BECMI or B/X character as part of the series. That rules system is different enough to be worth covering.

Reproduction should be defined in the game. I mean, the monsters got here somehow, right? I'm okay with creatures being magically transformed and then reproducing with those now newly compatible. But the rules should have a definite design. Gold Dragons transform into humans, sleep around, and 9 months later (maybe years?) out pops a 1/2 human 1/2 dragon baby. That makes me think of the miniseries "V" more than anything else, but that dragon thing has been around awhile in D&D. I also tend to agree with Olgar Shiverstone that Alter Self is far too low level a spell for these potential results. But perhaps Alter Self could be limited to Humanoids only? That actually makes a good bit of sense given all the inbreeding between races in D&D.

I suggest checking this article out (in addition to the reference from Olgar Shiverstone above). As far as I understand it, the relative distances of the space stations and the Hubble were unrealistically close. A jet pack would not be able to navigate those distances effectively. The fire extinguisher trick probably wouldn't work. Also, Kowalski would not have been pulling her because there is (ironically) no gravity to pull him, so once his initial movement was stopped, he would have come back easily. No reason to dump him; you can't be a dead weight if you have no weight. There's also a lot of dramatic conceit. It's awfully convenient that everything goes wrong at just the time it does, that the fuel runs out just as they reach the ISS, that the fire starts just when it does, that the pod lands in water, but right next to a shore with a nice calm sandy beach. Like all dramatic conceits, these things could happen, and real people have had similarly absurd coincidences, but after a few of these strung in a row there is a bit of eye-rolling from my seat. And then there ...

I have to agree with Olgar Shiverstone. Soldiers are people first, equipment only after the fact. A good soldier can succeed even barehanded when facing an untrained and scared opponent with superior equipment. Don't get me wrong. On any stereotypical gaming board it would be rare to have anyone deny the importance of good training in strategy and tactics. But I would be more willing to agree to the difference being about the combat wear worn - At least if you posted the other side as in, say, a Mobile Suit Gundam.

Totally parroting what pemerton said. Back when I ran Planescape the PCs had to revive the god Osiris who'd been cut up into bits by the god Set. Their task was to recover the various organs/body parts for Isis so a spell could be cast to revive Osiris. Just what each organ/body part was I played around with. I think the heart of Osiris was the high priestess of Isis, so there was the question "what happens to her when we revive him?" And then the skull of Osiris was a mimir (an actual talking skull). I also incorporated a lot of Egyptian mythology about death into the whole thing. Olgar Shiverstone Awesome :) scott2978 With your scenario, the biggest stumbling block I see is "why the hell would we do this Corellon?!?" I don't think you've yet given a convincing enough reason. I mean, drow are gathering to assault the surface; most players are going to go "Oh yeah? Let's get all our good allies together and kick their asses back to the darkness!" Why is Lolth needed? What can she do that another deity could not to stop the mounting invasion? Also, I'd imagine other Seldarine (and good deities in general) wouldn't be too keen on Lolth's resurrection...of course, neither would Kiaransalee or Selvetarm. So in addition to the great advice above, I'd expect part of the PCs' quest would be getting support (or at least non-interference agreements) from the Seldarine / good temples.

To add on to what Olgar Shiverstone said, the Arms and Equipment Guide does provide some guidance for restricting weapons by Age (Stone, Bronze, etc).

That is basically the Essentials Fighter. That's pretty much exactly what they did in this packet. Are you two sure about this? The way I understood Olgar Shiverstone idea, is that it is rounde-based i.e. very similar to the previous MDD of 5e, and quite different from EF and 5e current packets which both work encounter-based. Then they opened them up so every class could take them, but the Fighter still gets more of them than anyone else. They're now called "Martial Feats." IMHO this is a controversial design decision. It's very similar to the 3e Fighter, everybody gets a little bit of fighter's stuff, but the fighter gets more. We all know how that idea led the fighter class to become poorly attractive on its own. Now it remains to be seen if the other stuff the 5e gets will be enough to avoid that problem, but IMHO the original round-based and fighter-only MDD + Maneuvers were surely able to guarantee to avoid that problem.

Need more crossover Euro-RPGs. "You all meet at a tavern to trade wood for sheep..." Dang, beat me to it.

Next we'll have "PowerGrid: The RPG" where everyone plays a power generation tycoon out to make deals, build infrastructure, and deliver electricity. The highlight of each game is usually roleplaying the board meeting when you decide how to set prices and where to invest next.That actually doesn't sound all that different from an Ars Magica RPG session of a Tribunal of the Order of Hermes meeting... The fun lies in trying to further your political (or financial) agenda by making deals. There's lots of roleplaying opportunities in trying to get others to vote in your favor.

Next we'll have "PowerGrid: The RPG" where everyone plays a power generation tycoon out to make deals, build infrastructure, and deliver electricity. The highlight of each game is usually roleplaying the board meeting when you decide how to set prices and where to invest next. Please tell me you have a link to the Kickstarter.

Crows are evil. It is known. Nah. They're just approaching human levels of intelligence, but without a need to submit to human desires.

All else equal, is there something about Star Wars that lends itself more readily to gaming than Star Trek?Imho, because 'Star Wars' is basically just 'Fantasy in Space'. Star Trek also feels a lot more restrictive, since all PCs have to belong to the Star Fleet.

As to the Firefly references ... well, Firefly is a space Western; Star Wars got its start as "Wagon Train to the stars" so it all fits, and you can do a lot worse for a Star Wars movie than use Western genre tropes. Heck, I personally hope that both the future Kenobi film and the Boba Fett films borrow heavily from Westerns. I could be wrong but I think that’s how Star Trek was originally sold not Star Wars ...

Star Wars got its start as "Wagon Train to the stars" Nah, that was Roddenberry’s pitch for Star Trek.

"Platypuses!" "Too hard to pronounce. Next!" I feel if there's another Platypus like creatures that has flesh unlike the Thought Eater (a Skeletal Platypus with psionics that isn't undead) then they should probably have the habit of casually using a certain word that begins with "C" that is considered really offensive in North America, merely impolite in the UK and used in Australia to describe just about anyone.

Cool artwork, but I have a hard time taking any product seriously that has anthropomorphic space hippo naval officers. Right? Anyone with sense knows that they should be anthropomorphic space rhino naval officers. ;) Then again I could never take Spelljammer seriously as a whole. I don't think "seriously" is what they were going for.

Cool artwork, but I have a hard time taking any product seriously that has anthropomorphic space hippo naval officers. Obviously you've never played the Wizardry series of games nor Spelljammer. lol

Cool artwork, but I have a hard time taking any product seriously that has anthropomorphic space hippo naval officers. Hippos aren't an animal to be taken lightly as Hippos kill at least 500 Humans every year, making them deadlier than Sharks... If Hippos had guns, there would be even more dead Humans.

Cool artwork, but I have a hard time taking any product seriously that has anthropomorphic space hippo naval officers.As opposed to the rock hard seriousness of other D&D books.

Cool artwork, but I have a hard time taking any product seriously that has anthropomorphic space hippo naval officers. They aren't hippos.....they just LOOK like hippos because of your "pre-conceived perception bias". ;) (just jesting with yah...)

I like the Giff, but I could see that some might view them as...cartoonish. Different stroke for different folks. I do wonder if we will get some humanoid PC stats, beyond those in the earlier chapters: Giff, Tortles and so in. It would be nice if we did. See, really specific anthromorphs I can see being reasonably called cartoonish, I guess. I don’t get why people get hung up on a type of thing being cartoonish, even when the specific art isn’t. The closest that art goes to cartoonish is the same distance as the classic Dragonlance art, IMO. edit: Also, yeah a set of player race stats like Volos had would be great!

Cool artwork, but I have a hard time taking any product seriously that has anthropomorphic space hippo naval officers. Why? The Hippo-folk in question are the Giff (not to be confused with the Gith), a race of spacefaring hippo-people from the 2e Spelljammer campaign setting. They love battle and their favorite weapons are guns, typically a blunderbuss-type weapon. Opinions vary greatly as to Giff; some think they're way too goofy, others think they're cool. I just hope they are a playable race!

Cool artwork, but I have a hard time taking any product seriously that has anthropomorphic space hippo naval officers. I'm actually not familiar with older DND, so what actually are the Hippo-Folk?

Death in character creation or no sale.There is a chance of death in character generation, but it is more levied in the modern edition by the diversity of things that can go wrong. You could just get injured, or defamed or sent to prison instead. If you do get crippling injuries, you could get some expensive medical bills to cover it, etc.

Death in character creation or no sale. No sale. Or just use 1st edition options: ************************************************* Note: In earlier editions of Traveller a failed survival roll actually meant that the character was dead. For a more "classic" version of character creation you could implement this "Iron Man" rule. ************************************************* Or *************************************************** Optional Rule: Iron Man Character Creation In earlier editions of Traveller a failed survival roll actually meant that the character was dead. With the Iron Man rule all survival target numbers are reduced by 1 but a failure is lethal and you have to start over with a new character ***************************************************

Hopeful, but trailers are misleading (lookin' at you, Rogue One). You didn't like Rogue One? I adored it. So did my kids. Probably the best Star Wars movie to date, IMO.

It's not written in elvish in the books. I mostly agree with that, except that I'm willing to entertain the idea that it could have been written in Elvish even though it was recited in Westron so that the gathered peoples could all understand it.