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    Yesterday, 10:44 PM
    The director is the guy who did the Lego Batman Movie, so wackiness seems likely.
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    Yesterday, 07:30 PM
    The main thing I recall from the advertisements were zombies created by Aztec magic. The subsequent movies got more and more fantasy, and frankly D&D-ish: all they needed was for Jack Sparrow to crash on an island with Dino's and tigermen.
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    Yesterday, 07:08 PM
    PotC isn't really a "pirate movie" though, it's a high fantasy movie with a (very) loosely 18th century setting. I'm not saying the D&D movie is a sure thing: but it is not a priori impossible just because it hasn't been done so far.
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    Yesterday, 06:14 PM
    I'd say rather that demonstrates that people want that sort of thing. I wouldn't say that Time Bandits is the best example, though it is solid, and comedy is definitely the way to go: Guardians of the Galaxy is a solid recent example, another example of something that, while an adaptation, was not an adaptation no something most comics fans were even familiar with let alone the general public.
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    Yesterday, 06:12 PM
    *double post*
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    Yesterday, 05:39 AM
    The source material for every big budget fantasy released so far is a famous literary work: this is largely the result of where the genre has lived historically. However, the Pirates of the Caribbean, a big budget fantasy franchise with zero literary bprecedent (aside from buying Tim Power's plot for On Stranger Tides and then mangling it) shows that people might indeed have an appetite for...
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    Yesterday, 04:03 AM
    He did, but the Sword Coast hits more of that classic D&D sweet spot, I wager: I also can't name off the top of my head any video games set in the Dalelands region, and the bigger novels tend to be more Sword Coast centric.
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    Yesterday, 03:53 AM
    Volo is also in Tomb of Annihilation, actively selling his book for 50 GP: Tomb of Annihilation recommends giving the PCs in character any fluff text for anything in the actual book they look up, no stats or anything.
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    Yesterday, 03:25 AM
    Benefits from being the home game region for decades for the world's creator, who is possibly one of the most prolific fluff writers in RPG history. Also, a number of popular video games and board games. We know the WB project was looking at a Waterdeep setting, but all bets are off for the Paramount/AllSpark project in terms of subject matter.
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    Yesterday, 02:54 AM
    Well, yes, precisely on both points. They get money from their licensing partner, and make future customers. Thing is, I probably have enough D&D to last me the rest of my life: I'll probably keep buying, because I have a problem, but it is a better strategy to bet on my son wanting his own PHB someday than me wanting to invest in a new edition.
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    Yesterday, 12:23 AM
    *shrug* As a parent, it works for me. I see no indication they plan to throw veteran players under the bus, but relying on people who have all the material they need to play for sales isn't a sustainable sales strategy. Releasing children's and early reader books to cultivate new players who do not have everything they need to play is much more sustainable: that's how they sell Monopoly.
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    Saturday, 15th December, 2018, 09:00 PM
    The adventures don't suggest the game ends at 11th level; most people stop playing around 11th level, so the market for higher level content is limited, and therefore less explored. It is further limited by the fact that people who do play higher and higher level want material more focused towards their characters specifically, which is basically impossible to make a mass market product for.
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    Saturday, 15th December, 2018, 08:41 PM
    1E sold waaaaaaaay more than 2E did, IIRC, and B/X and BECMI sold more than either. I think their future business model doesn't have much to do with people over 25 or so unless they have kids. They are less interested in selling books to the hardcore, and more interested in getting the ENdless Quest books out there to create a new generation of players. If they succeed in creating a youth...
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    Saturday, 15th December, 2018, 07:48 PM
    Or mix and match elements as desired. Elseworlds, and all that.
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    Saturday, 15th December, 2018, 07:18 PM
    A lot of the other reviews here do a great job of detailing what is in this book, so I won't go into it. Since it has come out, it has been very useful in prep and play. I especially love the naming tables in practice, particularly when fleshing out contacts, friends and relatives when using the life generation tables. It is actually a very thoughtful and well done contribution.
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    Saturday, 15th December, 2018, 04:16 PM
    I dunno if this fits the brief, I could see WotC actually doing this one. Problem with trying to imagine what WotC wouldn't "have the balls" to do for me, is that probably means it's something I wouldn't be interested in: they have been quite bold in going gonzo, the things that would hold them back would probably be dark and nasty themes that don't work for a family audience, which isn't my...
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    Saturday, 15th December, 2018, 03:28 PM
    Mearls has said their initial lan was to use the phrase "Advanced Dungeons & Dragons" for the core rulebooks, as compared to the free Basic rules. But they found out in market testing that this confused people considerably, so the name is probably dead as a doornail.
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    Saturday, 15th December, 2018, 08:50 AM
    Runequest is still going, too: again, not really familiar with the system directly, but it does seem to have staying power.
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    Saturday, 15th December, 2018, 07:38 AM
    Basically none of that is relevant to whether a decent movie can be made.
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    Saturday, 15th December, 2018, 06:34 AM
    There are a million articles out there that argue CoC is the best RPG ever (only ever played CoC d20 myself, so I am not personally familiar). The game seems to be chugging along just fine after all these years. Just because something is old doesn't mean it is dated, if it's done right.
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    Saturday, 15th December, 2018, 04:05 AM
    You could easily say much the same about the Lego films (and interestingly the director appears to be the director who did the amazing Lego Batman). Another example, incidentally, if a major studio sinking money into another companies intellectual property. But, yes, generic fantasy is the brand: the ability to tell nearly endless generic fantasy stories in a family friendly manner. A...
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    Saturday, 15th December, 2018, 01:54 AM
    Probably in the $150-200 million range, though obviously it is early days since the release is 2.5 years away. Comparable projects from Paramount in the ~$150 million range ($200 isn't big budget, that's Star Wars budget) include Iron Man, Captain America, Transformers and G.I. Joe all risky ventures Paramount doesn't in the IP for at all. Time will tell on whether it makes money or is good,...
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    Saturday, 15th December, 2018, 12:42 AM
    The studios are looking for big budget franchises: if you want an indication of what level of budget D&D will get, look at the release date they have set for it.
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    Saturday, 15th December, 2018, 12:18 AM
    On the contrary, Paramount has put a rather ridiculous amount into the Transformers movies, an IP wholly owned by Hasbro. The potential of toy money is a win-win for the studio. We are not looking at a low-budget film in the works, here.
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    Friday, 14th December, 2018, 09:48 PM
    WotC doesn't foot the bill for the film production, Paramount Pictures does. The reason they are paying Habro for the privelage of making a toy commercial is because LotR was big, Game of Thrones is big, and there is potential money to be made. Just because previous films have been bad, doesn't mean that they have to be bad. Sales don't necessarily need to be book and bust, if an evergreen...
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    Friday, 14th December, 2018, 09:03 PM
    Yes, I meant 44 years: thanks, that makes my point stronger. Just because for 40 years D&D had not hit on an evergreen model, doesn't mean an evergreen model isn't achievable. The current team seems to think they have one now, and the results seem to be evident.
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    Friday, 14th December, 2018, 09:00 PM
    Check out the Acrobat subclass for Rogue from the Happy Fun Hour, it might get the job done: https://thinkdm.wordpress.com/hfh/acrobat-rogue/
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    Friday, 14th December, 2018, 08:29 PM
    Big Book of Dragons: like Volo's, but all Dragons, all the time. It could easily fill a full size book with useful game content, and would entertain small children more than adequately. Alternatively, a book that resurrects the 1E Dragonlance Adventures hardcover, redone in a style similar to theRavnica book. Maybe just a book that says "dragon dragon dragon" over and over with pretty...
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    Friday, 14th December, 2018, 08:25 PM
    The rules strong recommendation is only calling for rolls on DC 10 or higher, unless something dire is on the line and failure is possible. Even without Relible Talent, though, Rogues of mid-level are likely going to be able to succeed on their core skills even rolling a 1 against DC 10. Personally, I'm partial to the auto-success variant rules from the DMG, letting the large modifier and...
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    Friday, 14th December, 2018, 08:20 PM
    Dragons Love Tacos are big with the toddler set, believe me. The RPG industry has only existed for 54 years. It isn't that large edition changes are built into the long term model: no long term model has been successful, so we've seen big edition changes. Just because this has been the case, doesn't mean that it is going to be the pattern in the future.
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    Friday, 14th December, 2018, 08:12 PM
    Yes, if the DM knows the Rogue cannot roll lower than 21 on a 20 DC check, nonroll should be called for: Rogues roll for big ticket checks, not even very hard.
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    Friday, 14th December, 2018, 05:19 PM
    Yes, the DM should not call for a roll if the PC can succeed when rolling a 1. This is stated in the rules for ability checks, and some other places. Doesn't mean this ability is broken, it just means the Rogue is the master of doing things.
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    Friday, 14th December, 2018, 04:54 PM
    OK, so, it turns out that the PHB (nor any other D&D book) didn't make the top 100 on Amazon in books in 2014 or 2105. D&D appears in the top 100 for the first time on an annual basis in 2016, when the PHB hits #92, behind "Dragons Love Tacos" and ahead of "The Everything Kids' Science Experiments Book: Boil Ice, Float Water, Measure Gravity-Challenge the World Around You!" ...
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    Friday, 14th December, 2018, 04:03 PM
    Looking further back, D&D seems to have sold better on Amazon in 2018 than 2017: in 2017, only the PHB made the yearly top 100, at #40, behind "Brown Bear, Brown Bear, What Do You Hear" and still just ahead of "The Very Hungry Caterpillar" (speaking of Evergreen books): https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2017/books
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    Friday, 14th December, 2018, 03:28 PM
    While you are correct, I am equally certain that there will be a future version of Monopoly. I am equally certain most people who play Monopoly will not notice the change. So with any future 6E for D&D: backwards compatible, largely invisible to most players.
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    Friday, 14th December, 2018, 03:22 PM
    The PHB is currently the 60th bestseller in books on Amazon, the DMG is 92 among all books, though the MM is just outside the top 100 at 113. Those are just the current rankings, not historical: the annual list for 2018 has all three Core books in the top 100, with the PHB at 22 just behind Crazy Rich Asians and ahead of The Very Hungry Caterpillar. So, yeah, selling well at the moment, and...
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    Friday, 14th December, 2018, 03:38 AM
    It is an important point that they literally never talk about "5E," they refer to 5E as simply "D&D." There will probably be a 6E sometime, but it is likely not going to be a focus of marketing anymore than the recent edition change of Monopoly was.
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    Friday, 14th December, 2018, 03:37 AM
    He's changed his mind about that, actually: his thinking now is that he would make two-weapon fighting live in weapon properties, which fixes all of his concerns about bonus actions. But he has also said that cleaning up the rules isn't worth it unless there is a critical mass of popular opinion that they are broken. So I doubt they would do that based on their current thinking.
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    Friday, 14th December, 2018, 02:44 AM
    Probably not: they'll definitely do something for a 50th anniversary, but nothing says it has to involve redoing any rules to sell well.
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    Friday, 14th December, 2018, 01:57 AM
    I think it is very likely we won't even see 6E for the 50th.
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    Friday, 14th December, 2018, 12:19 AM
    Mearls said on Twitter abotu a minor rule change a while back that it wouldn't be worth it unless it would usher in world peace. I don't recall which rule it was, but it was fairly minor. Even if they do a 6E, it would be backwards compatible, with a new coat of paint possibly. The current art style has been extremely successful, too.
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    Thursday, 13th December, 2018, 04:42 PM
    I think WotC has bent over backwards to make the current material compatible with 1E-3E versions of the setting, really.
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    Thursday, 13th December, 2018, 02:32 AM
    3.0 book and 1E "Grey Box" are the best main books.
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    Monday, 10th December, 2018, 06:01 PM
    These are not all time numbers, but rather at the moment sales. Maybe the historical society even out more?
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    Monday, 10th December, 2018, 06:36 AM
    What's so crazy is that they had no idea: WotC obviously has access to a large amount of miniatures, and convention players do too, so it wasn't necessarily so clear that most people don't play games with them, for instance.
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    Sunday, 9th December, 2018, 10:53 PM
    More recently Mearls has made similar statements on Happy Fun Hour: we'll see Dark Sun sooner rather than later...
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    Sunday, 9th December, 2018, 06:46 PM
    Honestly, the acronyms became ridiculous in my book with Tales from the Yawning Portal...
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    Sunday, 9th December, 2018, 05:06 PM
    Basically the previous 2.5 Editions were designed to be the game the designers wanted to play. Which is not unreasonable really, but the game designers who got to play every day apparently had increasingly esoteric interests.
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    Sunday, 9th December, 2018, 05:34 AM
    The issue is the current Forgotten Realms are in a state of quantum uncertainty, simeltaneously Grey Box, 3E and post-Spellplague depending on which books a DM wants to use. WotC isn't going to define it further.
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    Sunday, 9th December, 2018, 12:00 AM
    I'm really impressed that Dragon Heist is holding it's own with Art & Arcana, actually.
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    Saturday, 8th December, 2018, 11:04 PM
    They seem to have wanted the RQ to be available in any setting, because of Critical Role's use of her. There are all these gods i nthe PHB, but Hades and Aphophis are not running around Greyhawk or Dragonlance...but the Shadowfell connects to them. Heck, the schtick they gave the RQ in MToF is "what the RQ did with Vox Machina" even.
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    Saturday, 8th December, 2018, 07:19 PM
    He is pitching it as his heavily homebrewed variation, though. He's pretty upfront about that, mentions it frequently.
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    Saturday, 8th December, 2018, 06:42 PM
    Technically, there hasn't been a Forgotten Realms take on the Raven Queen: MToF is not a FR book at all, but generic D&D with more Greyhawk and about as much Dragonlance or Spelljammer as FR. But the Dawn War version of her, per the DMG, is still a goddess.
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    Saturday, 8th December, 2018, 05:53 PM
    Because in the Nentir Vale she is THE god of Death, who had killed the previous god of Death in the Nentir Vale setting, Kelemvor. This is something Mearls called out as specifically awkward for FR compatibility, as Kelemvor is the existing god of Death who is still active in the game. The idea with the change, making the Raven Queen a sort of Goth Fairy Queen of the Shadowfell means she can...
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    Saturday, 8th December, 2018, 04:12 PM
    Pretty sure it is a coincidence. The Raven Queen being central in Critical Role is probably played a big role in wanting her in a core book release, and a desire to make her compatible with other settings necessitated the changes: MToF Raven Queen plays nicely with GreyHawk, Forgotten Realms, etc. Mearls said as much about the changes in the MToF lead-up.
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    Saturday, 8th December, 2018, 03:10 PM
    The numbers are good: the catagories are sometimes goofy, possibly crowd-sourced. Doesn't mean the sales aren't good, however.
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    Saturday, 8th December, 2018, 08:34 AM
    Extremely facetious, I can assure you. There is no "become" about it, "D&D" means RPGing to people and pretty much always has. Powered by the Apocalypse, as far as even experienced and knowledgeable players, is basically "D&D with less math." Network externalities might play a role. A bigger factor in this continued success is that WotC spent years studying how people play RPGs, what they...
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    Saturday, 8th December, 2018, 06:50 AM
    But how does this fit into the narrative about how 5E is the worst, the books are mediocre, and nobody likes the game...? Inquiring minds want to know!
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    Friday, 7th December, 2018, 10:22 PM
    Nope, the steed is worth 3d10, the Beast in the Ranger subclass is worth a lot more than that. Mearls in the stream talked about doing the math with a spreadsheet during his Thanksgiving vacation (because he is a workaloic, apparently, but I guess that's fun if your job and hobby align), and found that a 1/4 CR Beast with scaling HP, saves, etc. and their own action is worth the entire...
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    Friday, 7th December, 2018, 09:59 PM
    The issue is, that the Beastmaster Ranger already pours all the mathematical subclass value into the Beast as is. In order to get a more powerful Beast, something somewhere has to give in the main Class economy, such as spell slots or combat prowess.
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    Friday, 7th December, 2018, 09:24 PM
    It would be easier to see the comparability with the Mount, but that would end up with a less potent and even more disposable companion than the Beastmaster currently gets, albeit with their own turn and more easily retrievable. As it is, the Beastmaster already gets something significantly better than the Mount, but not as satisfactory for certain playstyles that the idea of a "beast master"...
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    Friday, 7th December, 2018, 07:45 PM
    I think the 5E Forgotten Realms as set up are fairly localized: the neighborhood Zhentarim ringleader is more important than somebody out by the Moonsea for any given location. The Order of the Gauntlet has it's own country, but that hasn't been heavily detailed (yet...?).
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    Friday, 7th December, 2018, 06:38 PM
    It's not hand-wringing, it's math. The wolf has a much better attack than a warhorse, and the HP is not a small bonus: that's the core of the game, damage given and taken. It was an ill-conceived subclass, I think, flavor wise: something weaker like the mount spell, or beefier like the emerging new summon rules, is far better. The beastmaster works fine, but doesn't do what people want it to...
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    Friday, 7th December, 2018, 05:02 PM
    Mearls gave a run-down of where all the relevant setting information could be found o nthe DMsGuil on the latest Happy Fun Hour.
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    Friday, 7th December, 2018, 04:54 AM
    Sure, they are absolutely comparable in mathematical terms: the Ranger Beast is better than the Paladin Mount in every way, except that it can come back. But the Ranger pet is replaceable, and probably should be retrievable on an individual level: easy enough for a DM to supply, and the mega-Beastie seems to have that built-in.
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    Friday, 7th December, 2018, 12:13 AM
    To be fair, it is literally the thread topic.
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    Thursday, 6th December, 2018, 11:42 PM
    This isn't the "5E Version" this is Mearl's homebrew interpretation.
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    Thursday, 6th December, 2018, 11:20 PM
    Right, because the mount only contributes a single level 2 spells worth of mathematical elements (HP and damage: in this case, 3d10) across ~20 rounds of combat spread across 6-8 encounters (an adventuring day). The PHB Ranger Beast does far more already, and what Mearls is proposing goes waaaaaaaaaay out past the Paladin Mount, by orders of magnitude.
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    Wednesday, 5th December, 2018, 09:49 PM
    Until it gets hit for 20 damage. The HP never scales, it stays at the Level 2 Spell Slot amount at all levels. Folks aren't satisfied with the Ranger beast scaling, but it does scale.
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    Wednesday, 5th December, 2018, 09:36 PM
    "Add your proficiency bonus to the beast's AC, attack rolls, and damage rolls, as well as to any saving throws and skills it is proficient in. Its hit point maximum equals its normal maximum or four times your ranger level, whichever is higher." That's with no expenditure of spell slots, which if I were a Paladin I would save for Smite anyways. The Paladin's mount has ~19 HP, and no bonuses...
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    Wednesday, 5th December, 2018, 09:12 PM
    So, as a 2nd level spell effect, Find Steed is worth 3d10 of damage given/taken. Given the HP of a Warhorse, and the damage they are capable of in a few rounds, that seems about right for a second level spell slot. Really, they should have made Hunter's Mark a Class feature, and made Find Companion a Druid/Ranger Spell, not a subclass.
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    Wednesday, 5th December, 2018, 05:25 PM
    First things first, this book is laid out gorgeously. Every page has something visually interesting to offer. The setting is something very new for D&D, a steampunk, high magic, near-modern, gonzo Ecumenopolitan smorgasbord of kooky action and conflict. The setting is very lightly detailed, with lots of blank spaces: an old school Points of Light campaign improving setting details would work...
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    Sunday, 2nd December, 2018, 07:10 PM
    Half-Orcs are specifically not limited to half-human (Dwarves get mentioned in the MM or the PHB, I forget which), and the blood runs strong so a given Half-Orc can be generations removed from an actual Orc ancestor. Canonically, in the Forgotten Realms at least, half-Dwarves are simply Dwarves, and can have Gnomish, Halfling or Human ancestry.
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    Sunday, 2nd December, 2018, 05:08 PM
    MNblockhead specified Adventures, not other kinds of products. I don't see that a Ravnica box set would have had different contents, but would have cost more?
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    Sunday, 2nd December, 2018, 06:41 AM
    No doubt; nothing against it, just seems like good sense for them to get everyone's jam out there. Putting out a quality stream shown first might be better for the setting than a book, in terms of getting new people on board.
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    Sunday, 2nd December, 2018, 03:56 AM
    WirC President said in a recent interview that there are something like seven thousand groups actively livestreaming now. WotC is supporting dozens directly on their own channel. Seems in their best interest to get all this IP out there.
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    Saturday, 1st December, 2018, 11:28 PM
    B&G was going to have less premium boxes; those seem to have disappeared? Maybe there isn't a major, viable market for more-than the Starter Set but less-than the B&G? WotC has tried before, but none of those products seemed to last.
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    Saturday, 1st December, 2018, 08:36 PM
    Issue there is, the adventure books already give most groups everything they need: text, maps, and handouts. Miniatures or physical representation of any kind are not a universal feature of play.
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    Saturday, 1st December, 2018, 06:02 AM
    The base Starter Set is also a box set, and has sold well for years. Biggest downside for a EotC game product, though, is browsability: hard to flip through a boxed adventure set in the store.
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    Friday, 30th November, 2018, 12:39 AM
    3.0 was priced as a loss leader. WotC donesn't do that anymore.
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    Friday, 30th November, 2018, 12:12 AM
    I always dug it, it's basically how we played Greyhawk in 3.x anyways.
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    Thursday, 29th November, 2018, 11:49 PM
    But that is precisely my point: The 3.x PHB (i'm not even sure if 3.0 or 3.5, or if that makes a difference on Greyhawk flavor) was my introduction to Greyhawk as a teenager, and I thought the setting was awesome based just on that. Nothing more needed. The Dawn War mythos...not as gripping as the 3.x GH treatment for me. For a product like an RPG, a mix of blank and filled in is needed. A...
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    Thursday, 29th November, 2018, 11:33 PM
    My understanding is that the generic stuff was by default sort of set in the Nentir Vale, so any given thing not specifically set in one of the official settings was Nentir Vale. But from my perusal of the books outside the PHB, while limited, they seemed pretty light on flavor or explanatory text...
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    Thursday, 29th November, 2018, 11:20 PM
    Tal'Dorei is a pretty wooly and wild continent (much of what you describe is post-Vox Machina), andwas built point by point using the PoL model. It is a case in point for how that sort of campaign is designed: Mercer didn't even like 4E, but he used the setting and campaign advise in Pathfinder/5E. It speaks to the strength of that approach.
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    Thursday, 29th November, 2018, 11:12 PM
    Never did get past the PHB, no. Wasn't very inspired to at the time. With this sort of thing, first impressions can make or break it. It also seems it never got consolidated into a concise form, any sort of Gazeeter or such. Too bad.
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    Thursday, 29th November, 2018, 11:10 PM
    Well, I do prefer to read things that have character and flavor put into them, yes. Stuff like "in-universe" narration, or stories. If it's something that expects me to build it entirely...why do I need the book if it isn't going to provide some bricks?
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    Thursday, 29th November, 2018, 10:53 PM
    No 4ate here, maybe some 4Endifference: I actually like the outline, but it never really got fleshed out and was a bit flat as presented. Mearls take is, indeed, pretty fun. Mercer's is better, but he took the time to flesh it out for publication.
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    Thursday, 29th November, 2018, 10:25 PM
    Sure, if it doesn't end up being worth the time.
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    Thursday, 29th November, 2018, 10:24 PM
    Or "Guild Spells" as a Background Faction feature. Or Dragonshard subrace options.
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    Thursday, 29th November, 2018, 10:22 PM
    Good for you. The DMG has it as an example of how to construct a pantheon, as well. For my money, if they bother bringing the NV back in any way, Mercer or bust. Mearls having a show makes it more likely, and I like his take as well. But time will tell. A flat, featureless "DM's Kit" isn't so useful, because I already have mythology books that are better for that as is. Give me some flavor,...
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Tuesday, 20th November, 2018

  • 12:14 AM - darkbard mentioned Parmandur in post Mike Mearls on how 4E could have looked
    I have to admit, it's really, REALLY funny watching people who hate a game, hardly if ever played a game, trying to argue with people with hundreds if not thousands of hours of experience with the game. It really is amusing. Even though I awarded you XPs for this already, it's worth restating. Imaro, Parmandur, etc. seem to be here for the argument (for argument's sake) as they've proven over the course of many, many threads like this in the past (as well as this one) that they have no real interest in 4E ... other than to jump in on the hate.

Friday, 16th November, 2018

  • 11:40 AM - pemerton mentioned Parmandur in post Mike Mearls on how 4E could have looked
    Two further comments: (1) If, as Parmandur suggested upthread is widespread according to Mearls, someone wants to have an RPG experience which is mostly about GM-mediated fiction and story revelation, then conflict resolution/closed scene resolution will be unnecessary, and task resolution with no system-established finality will be fine - the skill check in effect becomes an element of colour that the GM weaves into the unfolding narration of the ingame situation. This seems to me to be an assumption many modules from the mid-80s on make about how the game will proceed, at least out of combat. (Eg if the PCs fail to find the dirt in the safe because they fail their safecracking roll, then they'll find it in the waste paper bin or in a note on a dead henchman or whatever.) It's hard to see how the "path" in an AP would work without this sort of thing. (2) Contra Lanefan and maybe some others, it's simply not true that differential XP tables in AD&D made fighters stronger than wizards at mid-to-upper levels. A 6th level wi...
  • 09:07 AM - Hussar mentioned Parmandur in post Mike Mearls on how 4E could have looked
    Hit dice, short rests, healing potions (assumed in the PHB) Cleric spell slots...did you notice the part where at Level 18 the Champion becomes Wolverine and will never be below half HP in a day, before considering Hit Dice...? Hit Dice are limited resources in 5e. You only replenish half on a long rest. Which means that after the first adventuring day, you're down resources. Cleric spell slots? Umm, so, you're adventuring day rests on the cleric's ability to recharge your resources? And, hey, 18th level, congratulations, you finally get to do half of what a caster has been able to do since about 4th level. :erm: Let's compare shall we Parmandur, since you've repeatedly talked about how epic it is for a 17th level fighter to shoot 12 arrows in 2 rounds. Let's not forget though, that it took you 12 levels just to catch up to the monk who has been getting 8 attacks over 2 rounds (12 over three, which equals a 16th level fighter) since 5th level. And, at the same time you get to shoot 12 arrows, that monk can instantly kill 5 opponents per short rest. How come your Hawkeye or Green Arrow cannot so much as slow down a monster with an arrow (something that the characters do in the comics all the time) yet our monk is instantly killing dragons? And you consider this to be equal? Or, let's wander over to the Ranger. At 11th level, the archer ranger has up to 25 attacks in a single round (every target within 5 feet of your original target builds a nice 5x5 square, you don't include the original target in the area of effect). Granted that's extremely rare, but, 5 or 6 attacks in a single round isn't. Congratulations, it onl...

Thursday, 15th November, 2018

  • 12:22 AM - pemerton mentioned Parmandur in post Mike Mearls on how 4E could have looked
    Don't agree with your summary of what was expressed. the game provides tools to challenge high level spellcasters just like high level martials. If you choose not to employ all of said tools for challenging spellcasters you shouldn't be surprised that they are more powerful because of it. Parmandur was responding to Manbearcat mentioning some particular tools - anti-magic zones and spellbook issues. Here is Manbearcat's post: This is assuming a GM isn’t pulling out all kinds of the classic, shallow, obnoxious Anti-Magic blocks and adversarial, endless army of thieves stealing spellbooks moves. Assuming you aren’t transparently taking away their tools left and right as a kludge to deal with their cosmic power. And here is Parmandur's reply to those words: Your final assumption would be incorrect. That is literally the DMs job. There is only one possible reading of this: Parmandur things that it is literally the GM's job to deploy anti-magic zones and spellbook-stealing thieves and other similar devices that block the use of spells by the player of a high-level wizard. This is bull... ritual caster alone makes casters more effective than martial PC's in 4e.Is this based on your actual play experience? (1) Not all casters in 4e have ritual casting. (2) I...

Wednesday, 14th November, 2018

  • 04:42 AM - pemerton mentioned Parmandur in post Mike Mearls on how 4E could have looked
    in all editions casters have - or can have, depending on spells known - the advantage; and I've never claimed otherwise. Other posters (eg Imaro, Parmandur, Sadras) seemed to be disagreeing with me when I said that in this respect 4e differs from 5e (because what you say is not generally the case in 4e, at least as I have experienced it). If in fact they do agree with you that in 5e casters have the advantage in these non-combat, no-time-pressure situations, then most of the discussion is over. Because that's the whole difference I've been talking about with the discussion of DC-by-level, skill challenges and the like. I can't see how this would be any different in 4e than in 5e or 1e or 3e.Then reread some of my posts in this thread, some actual play reports, etc. Manbearcat has already rehearsed the bulk of it in a post not far upthread. It's not rocket science - this is RPG design tech that was pioneered over 20 years ago.
  • 03:39 AM - pemerton mentioned Parmandur in post Mike Mearls on how 4E could have looked
    ...ous Anti-Magic blocks and adversarial, endless army of thieves stealing spellbooks moves. Assuming you aren’t transparently taking away their tools left and right as a kludge to deal with their cosmic power. Your final assumption would be incorrect. That is literally the DMs job. I mean, yes, the game works best when played as intended. More on this at 11.OK, this is the first time in this thread that anyone has posted that the way 5e is "intended" to work is by having the GM block a high level wizard player's capabilities in various ways. Personally I don't enjoy that sort of play, either as GM and player. So let me note another strength of 4e not yet commented on in this thread: it preserves an intraparty balance of mechanical effectiveness even when every player is doing his/her thing in accordance with his/her resources resulting from PC build. EDIT: I saw this: in no-pressure situations the casters are likely to rule the roost. Fair enough With likes from Imaro and Parmandur. So just to be clear - is it now uncontroversial that in fact, in a whole suite of non-combat situations (which would include something "no pressure" like reforging a hammer at one's leisure) 5e spellcasters are more effective than martial PCs? Because that's certainly not true in 4e. But when I've been asserting that the two systems are different in this respect, I thought that was widely denied. So I'm confused.

Sunday, 11th November, 2018

  • 01:40 AM - pemerton mentioned Parmandur in post Mike Mearls on how 4E could have looked
    Bounded Accuracy allows one to "influence the fiction" over a greater range of mechanical difficulty. If it's true that all DCs are set by GM fiat (as Parmandur said and you seemed to agree with) then what does it mean to say that bounded accuracy allows one to "influence the fiction". Eg if the GM decides that the DC for the holding the hammer in the forge is 15 for the 15th level fighter, but the 1st level fighter doesn't get to roll for it and automatically burns his/her hands off, what work was bounded accuracy doing? I'm not sure why pemerton you are trying to continually push it as having been stated as an all or nothing type thingI'm just trying to understand what is being said. Some posts say that bounded accuracy means that the DC is the same for the 1st and the 15th level PC. And other posts say that the GM can decide that the 1st level PC automatically fails while setting a DC for the 15th level PC which the player of the 1st level PC might succeed at if allowed to roll against it. That second approach does not seem to involve bounded accuracy; in fact it seems directly at odds with it!

Saturday, 10th November, 2018

  • 01:51 AM - pemerton mentioned Parmandur in post Mike Mearls on how 4E could have looked
    ...as an immediate success whereas a lower level PC might be asked to make a roll.OK, that all may be true. It reinforces my view that it's not clearly the case that there are level appropriate DCs, or indeed a clear methodology for determining what might be possible for a 15h level fighter along the lines I've described upthread. To wit . . . I don't think that's true... I think your question was a little unclear. Mechanically there are certain DC's a first level fighter can never attain. However the first step of determining whether there is even the possibility of a check in 5e is in the hands of the DM. I assumed you were familiar with the play procedures of 5e so I didn't think it was relevant to rehash the fact that the DM decides what a 1st level fighter vs. a 15th level fighter is capable of making a check for... I assumed you were asking what DC range was attainable by a fighter at 15th level vs. one at 1st level.Upthread a number of posters - you in an earlier post, Parmandur, I think others too - have said that 5e uses bounded accuracy, in the sense that the DC for task X doesn't change across levels. (More than one poster has compared this to AC - the AC of a goblin is the same whether the to hit check is made by a 1st level or 15th level PC). If now you're saying that DCs are in fact "subjective" - for non-combat, at least, if not for combat - then the difference from 4e seems to be more about the absence of a clear framework for bundling a series of level-appropriate DCs into an overall resolution framework (ie the skill challenge). Anyway I've intended my claim to be clear: that 4e has a system that makes it straightforward for martial prowess to be displayed and resolved in a way that mitigates against tendencies in fantasy RPGing for playes of spellcasters to have a greater range of possibilities open to them, especially once we get into "epic" territory. I posted an actual play illustration. I think the range of responses that has generated...

Friday, 9th November, 2018

  • 08:24 PM - Imaro mentioned Parmandur in post Mike Mearls on how 4E could have looked
    Yeh I am calling it so far from being perfect as to be insulting. Note we arent discussing details like how to make it feel like the person has one "secret" vulnerable spot without making it ridiculously over powered. Even giving innate damage resistance would be hard pressed not to be. Takes extra damage from critical hits would not be a great off set but it would have the flavor. Well that's your call. For me 5e gets the feel close enough (while still maintaining playability of the game) using the methods Parmandur described above that it's not a concern for me.

Monday, 5th November, 2018

  • 10:51 AM - MechaPilot mentioned Parmandur in post WotC President Chris Cocks Talks Magic and D&D
    Granted that each edition is a separate product line, it is unheard of in D&D for year four to be the biggest year of an edition. 3.0 and 4E were already gone by the same point, and 5E is on Pace to surpass 3.5 timr in print in a matter of months. Did I say it wasn't impressive? Also, @bedir than, it's odd that you give @Parmandur XP for stating that each edition is a separate product line, while giving me a hard time about making that exact same statement. Is your real issue with my post that you don't think I'm impressed enough by their growth?

Saturday, 6th October, 2018

  • 05:33 AM - pukunui mentioned Parmandur in post Updated errata will be released within the next month!
    Parmandur: You do realize that now I have no choice but to go back and rewatch that part of the Dragon+ episode to see what exactly it was JC actually said ... sigh ... EDIT: OK, here's the episode: Dragon+ July 31st episode Around the 25-minute mark, Greg reads a question someone has posted about whether they will be putting out another UA on alternative class features. Jeremy replies that they don't want to proceed rapidly down that road until they do another overall game satisfaction survey, as it's been a while since the last one, and the old data might prove to be wrong (e.g. Enough people might actually be happy with the PHB ranger now that it won't be worth them spending any more time trying to fix it.) The pertinent bit is around the 27-minute mark: "I actually just approved errata for the three core books earlier today, and there will be some tweaks in a few places actually that I think people will be pleased with that will make it unnecessary to have any kind of alternative fe...

Friday, 21st September, 2018

  • 05:54 PM - lowkey13 mentioned Parmandur in post Mearls On D&D's Design Premises/Goals
    Why not? If my local bakery, that produces and sells my favorite bagels, decides to only sell donuts from now on, why can't I say "Hey, you guys stopped making my favorite bagels, what's up with that?" They are certainly within their rights to say "Well, donuts sell better, and we don't really like making bagels, so I guess you're out of luck." And I'm certainly within my rights to respond "Well, I only really liked your bagels, so if you start making them, I'll come back, but otherwise I'll just have to skip bagels." I think Parmandur and @Sacrosanct explained this already, but, to the extent you wish to make this analogy to design, it would be more like this: Your baker has decided to drop bagels, and only make donuts. So, every day, you come in and say, "Hey, you know how you could make those donuts better? By making a donut that has ... let's see ... poppy seed, sesame seeds, onion & garlic flakes, pretzel salt, and pepper on it, and then serving that donut with lox and cream cheese!" Again, you are perfectly within your rights to say the following: a. I don't like donuts, I want you to make bagels instead! b. I like donuts, but I think think you can make better donuts ... like, those crossaint donuts! Where it goes bad is if you ignore what they are doing, and instead insist that they make your donuts like bagels; that just makes everyone miserable. :)

Tuesday, 11th September, 2018


Saturday, 25th August, 2018

  • 05:46 PM - Kobold Stew mentioned Parmandur in post What races are left for D&D to do?
    Parmandur has a good list. Gnolls. Mearls has, I think, been clear that gnolls are not going to be officially playable in 5e (link). It seems arbitrary to me, but the presentation of the race in VGTM has to my eye ruled out the possibility of them walking this back. I'll note that the results of the survey Parmandur linked to (here) are not entirely conisistent with what Mearls says about Gnolls. Half-giants are excluded because the designers have worked not to allow any playable race larger than Medium sized. Pixies are excluded for the converse reason: there are not going to be any races smaller than Small.

Saturday, 12th May, 2018

  • 11:36 PM - Demetrios1453 mentioned Parmandur in post List of monsters confirmed in Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes
    Via Twitter we now have the Monsters by challenge rating. And also the answer to which Lords of the Nine are in this book. Heavy spoilers. 97430 So the answer to how many lords of the Nine is one. Only Zariel is in the book. Also a few strange things like one of the monsters being an Oinoloth. Edit Source: https://twitter.com/fistfullofdice/status/995054993328820224 Very interesting! Definitely leaked far before we had surmised - usually we would have a few more days yet! Besides that surprising news on the lack of Lords of the Nine (which indicates they are holding most of them back for a later book - unless @Parmandur is right, and there are some at the top of the next page), some other observations: White and black abishai have maintained their previous power level, but green, blue, and red are much higher. We had a hint of this from the Roll 20 preview showing the blue abishai CR, but we didn't know they would split them this way. Derro made it in, like I assumed they would. There's a nice range of duergar, and even more drow variants than we knew about. Really, running a drow-centric campaign from 1 - 20 would easily be possible with little in the way of any CR gaps. I, too, wonder what an "oinoloth" is. If it were the traditional Oinoloth, it should have a much higher CR, as being lord of the Wasting Tower traditionally gave one almost god-like powers. Beyond that, pretty much all the yugoloths I assumed would appear do show up, other than, oddly, the piscoloth. Same with the demons and devils, those I felt were missing from the MM have pretty much all made appearances here. Sadly, other t...

Wednesday, 9th May, 2018


Sunday, 21st January, 2018

  • 05:18 PM - Corpsetaker mentioned Parmandur in post Kate Welch is WotC's New D&D Designer
    Parmandur You do realize the laugh button doesn't work in that way anymore. You look silly trying to "laugh with" a post that the original author wasn't laughing to begin with. You are giving me XP and making yourself look silly.

Thursday, 23rd November, 2017

  • 09:47 PM - pukunui mentioned Parmandur in post Marathon, Broadway, and Catacomb: Upcoming D&D Products?
    Assuming the information about Broadway and Labyrinth both being big adventures and released only two months apart is true, it would sound likely that they're a two-part adventure much like Hoard of the Dragon Queen + Rise of Tiamat. I think it's kind of useless to speculate on the contents of a product based on a single word that may or may not be related in hindsight. I mean, sure, Cloak = Vampire and Dagger = Shakespearean giants... you can make sense of it after the fact, but that's some Law of Fives-level justification.Indeed. I mean, it's entirely possible that they codenamed SKT "Dagger" simply because they'd codenamed the previous one "Cloak" so they could have a little chuckle about "cloak and dagger". Parmandur: Could you please get back to me regarding the PMs I've sent you pertaining to comments you've made in this thread?
  • 02:05 AM - Hussar mentioned Parmandur in post So Was That Z Fellow right?
    While I'm not about to defend Parmandur about the head hunting thing, I think he's gone too far, he does make a point. This is a one trick pony that adds nothing else to the group. I LOVE characters like this because it's so easy to challenge them. Drop them in a pit filled with water - watch that dump stat Str try to swim and climb. Use the rules for buying magic items as a downtime activity and watch them fail every time because they have no social skills. Fun. Or, heck, the Ravenloft module has no magic pistol crossbows at all, and no magic bolts. At least, none that we found. Watch Mr. Specialist whine and complain because he's doing half damage to every single major opponent in the entire module, that, after all, only goes to about 10th level, so, this build actually only comes into play in the very, very tail end.

Wednesday, 15th November, 2017

  • 06:58 AM - pemerton mentioned Parmandur in post Why D&D is not (just) Tolkien
    when do we start seeing non-human protagonists in fantasy? In the pulps, the first one I can think of is Elric and that's pretty recent. There are many complaints about the "Cantina Scene" thing in D&D where the local tavern has a mix of different species all drinking together, but, that concept is pretty much straight from Tolkien. No disagreement at all on this score. I'm pretty sure my first (or near-to-first) post in both the Tolkien threads has been to say that the whole idea of non-human fantasy races which are basically human cultures in funny suits - and hence which lend themselves to literary treatments, and RPing, just as if they were human - comes from JRRT. To my mind, it's the most obvious thing that D&D owes to Tolkien. EDIT: This is why I said you and Parmandur are both right. GH owes its non-humans to JRRT. But everything else about GH seems to me closer to the Hyborian Age than to Middle Earth. Also, for what it's worth, I'm currently GMing a Burning Wheel game using GH as the setting, and the tensions between the S&S aspects of GH (which the BW rules for humans support well) and the Tolkien-esque aspects of GH (which the BW rules for elves and dwarves support better than any other RPG system I know) is one source of challenge in GMing that game.


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Sunday, 16th December, 2018

  • 11:02 PM - Satyrn quoted Parmandur in post Why 5E may be the last edition of D&D
    The director is the guy who did the Lego Batman Movie, so wackiness seems likely. We're nearly 20 years too late for this to happen, but my dream team for this movie would be for Paul Verhoeven to direct a script written by Ed Neumeier . . . What I'm saying is RoboCop and Starship Troopers were awesome, and we could combine them into a wacky movie about warforged overwhelmed by a horde of undead.
  • 08:44 PM - schnee quoted Parmandur in post Why 5E may be the last edition of D&D
    I'd say rather that demonstrates that people want that sort of thing. People wanting them is never the issue. It's the studios' ability to execute that's the problem. Look at the reviews for Mary Poppins. It's obvious the whole cast and crew wanted it to be 'right'. They loved doing it. It didn't work. I wouldn't say that Time Bandits is the best example, though it is solid, and comedy is definitely the way to go: Guardians of the Galaxy is a solid recent example, another example of something that, while an adaptation, was not an adaptation no something most comics fans were even familiar with let alone the general public. That's a really good point. I could see the tone of Guardians working (especially the way they handled the ensemble). Maybe James Gunn will be a bit cheaper to hire now? :heh: Thinking about it more, maybe Thor Ragnarok is an even better example. That one had all the Kirby cosmic weirdness and techno-funky stuff mixed with high fantasy, mixed with buddy movie chemistry.
  • 07:16 PM - Charlaquin quoted Parmandur in post Why 5E may be the last edition of D&D
    PotC isn't really a "pirate movie" though, it's a high fantasy movie with a (very) loosely 18th century setting. Depends how you define pirate movie, I guess. It certainly reads as a pirate movie to casual viewers, particularly based just on the original trailer. I'm not saying the D&D movie is a sure thing: but it is not a priori impossible just because it hasn't been done so far. Oh, for sure! I definitely think it could be successful if they make the right choices. But it’ll be a big risk any way you slice it, and I do think going campy with it would give it a better chance than trying to chase the tail of LotR or GoT.
  • 06:58 PM - Charlaquin quoted Parmandur in post Why 5E may be the last edition of D&D
    I'd say rather that demonstrates that people want that sort of thing. Except that every other Pirate movie has been a flop, save a few of the better adaptations of Treasure Island, demonstrating the opposite. Pirates of the Carribian is the exception that proves the rule. I wouldn't say that Time Bandits is the best example, though it is solid, and comedy is definitely the way to go: Guardians of the Galaxy is a solid recent example, another example of something that, while an adaptation, was not an adaptation no something most comics fans were even familiar with let alone the general public. But by the time Guardians of the Galaxy came out, Marvel Studios had already earned the general public’s trust. There’s no way it would have been as successful if it had come out before Avengers, and Avengers had that benefit of being based on a preexisting property that the general public would like to be into but doesn’t have the time to. That, on top of riding the success of Iron Man, which was ano...
  • 01:04 PM - schnee quoted Parmandur in post Why 5E may be the last edition of D&D
    The source material for every big budget fantasy released so far is a famous literary work: this is largely the result of where the genre has lived historically. However, the Pirates of the Caribbean, a big budget fantasy franchise with zero literary precedent (aside from buying Tim Power's plot for On Stranger Tides and then mangling it) shows that people might indeed have an appetite for such films with zero literary cred. Pirates of the Caribbean was one of the luckiest confluence of events in modern cinema. The formula is 'do the same things as all the other movies in this genre that flopped, but let that one crazy actor play totally against the role in a way that only he could have pulled off, with a creative team that will actually allow him to do it, and cross your fingers'. So, sadly, it was a well-executed gamble, not a blueprint for success.
  • 06:48 AM - Count_Zero quoted Parmandur in post So Mike Mearls is on the phone...
    Big Book of Dragons: like Volo's, but all Dragons, all the time. I like this - but with a twist - doing this as part of a Council of Wyrms campaign - setting information on Dragon society, more information on different types of dragons, rules for creating and running dragon characters, and a campaign that you could run with those characters.
  • 03:35 AM - Mercurius quoted Parmandur in post Why 5E may be the last edition of D&D
    1E sold waaaaaaaay more than 2E did, IIRC, and B/X and BECMI sold more than either. I think their future business model doesn't have much to do with people over 25 or so unless they have kids. They are less interested in selling books to the hardcore, and more interested in getting the ENdless Quest books out there to create a new generation of players. If they succeed in creating a youth ramp-up, which they seem to have been doing well, they literally never need to hit the reset button because people turn 12 every day. Benefits from being the home game region for decades for the world's creator, who is possibly one of the most prolific fluff writers in RPG history. Also, a number of popular video games and board games. We know the WHOLE STORY project was looking at a Waterdeep setting, but all bets are off for the Paramount/AllSpark project in terms of subject matter. Didn't Greenwood alternate between the Sword Coast and Dale Lands somewhat equally? Or I suppose the whole north...
  • 03:02 AM - Mercurius quoted Parmandur in post Why 5E may be the last edition of D&D
    Wizards and Hasbro won't dare leave the Sword Coast region of Faerun, more than likely. To me, the War of the Lance story would be one of the best to turn into films. Unfortunately, they tried that with the horrific animated movie ( https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0825245/ ) 10 years ago. So I don't see them attempting that. They may get someone to write a script just for the movie, and not take anything from previous novels or adventures. I am pretty certain they will set it within the Sword Coast region of Faerun, or maybe even somewhere in Nentir Vale. I doubt they will go the direction of the old movies and use generic no-name world. Of course, I could be completely wrong, but WotC seems to have a bigger hard on for Sword Coast than Paizo does for Varisia within the Sword Coast. I don't think they're wedded to the Sword Coast or even the Realms for a movie. Their target audience for a big budget Hollywood movie isn't primarily D&D players, its the public that likes big budget action fantasy m...
  • 01:49 AM - Jester David quoted Parmandur in post Why 5E may be the last edition of D&D
    1E sold waaaaaaaay more than 2E did, IIRC, and B/X and BECMI sold more than either. I think their future business model doesn't have much to do with people over 25 or so unless they have kids. They are less interested in selling books to the hardcore, and more interested in getting the ENdless Quest books out there to create a new generation of players. If they succeed in creating a youth ramp-up, which they seem to have been doing well, they literally never need to hit the reset button because people turn 12 every day. You do know WotC doesn't publish the Endless Quest books, right? Those are licensed. And funny thing... you know that generation of casual kids who watched the cartoon and read the EQ books in the '80s grew up to be the hardcore gamers of the 2000s.
  • 12:21 AM - DM Howard quoted Parmandur in post Why 5E may be the last edition of D&D
    1E sold waaaaaaaay more than 2E did, IIRC, and B/X and BECMI sold more than either. I think their future business model doesn't have much to do with people over 25 or so unless they have kids. They are less interested in selling books to the hardcore, and more interested in getting the ENdless Quest books out there to create a new generation of players. If they succeed in creating a youth ramp-up, which they seem to have been doing well, they literally never need to hit the reset button because people turn 12 every day. I find this slightly worrisome. What you have described, focusing on the 12 year olds or new entrants into the hobby without catering to the long tail will create problems. That was exactly the type of BS they were shoving down our throats at Games Workshop before Kevin Rountree replaced Tom Kirby and started righting the sinking ship that was GW.

Saturday, 15th December, 2018

  • 11:15 PM - zhivik quoted Parmandur in post New D&D Show From Daredevil's Deborah Ann Woll
    I think they will ccut the cord with G&S entirely when they can. G&S has cleared out their CR merch from their store in a final sale around Thanksgiving. Well, I am not so sure. I'd say CR have a greater chance of getting more favourable terms from G&S than Twitch (owned by Amazon). As far as I have seen, Twitch collects 50% of all revenues from streamers, and given CR's popularity, they will be able to get a better deal from G&S, though the lack of exclusivity will not help. However, G&S owes its current popularity to a great extent to CR's webcasts, so I am sure they will be very much interested to keep CR, even if they get a lower cut of streaming revenues. Generally, it is a good idea if CR is broadcast to a broader audience, as I am sure CR has subscribers who are interested in something else than CR. I am afraid I am not one of them at the moment, though I may have a look at the Vampire: The Masquerade stream during the holidays (I don't have time to catch up with regular CR shows at...
  • 10:59 PM - Mercurius quoted Parmandur in post Why 5E may be the last edition of D&D
    1E sold waaaaaaaay more than 2E did, IIRC, and B/X and BECMI sold more than either. Yeah, but this is a case where the history is important. 1E boomed in the early 80s then declined in the mid-80s. 2E simply didn't lead to another boom. And then, of course, there is the over-extension of the mid-90s, which was a major factor in TSR's collapse. I think their future business model doesn't have much to do with people over 25 or so unless they have kids. They are less interested in selling books to the hardcore, and more interested in getting the ENdless Quest books out there to create a new generation of players. If they succeed in creating a youth ramp-up, which they seem to have been doing well, they literally never need to hit the reset button because people turn 12 every day. Yes, exactly. Which is why I think 5E might be the "last" edition - or at least major edition change/revision.
  • 10:10 PM - 5ekyu quoted Parmandur in post New D&D Show From Daredevil's Deborah Ann Woll
    I think they will ccut the cord with G&S entirely when they can. G&S has cleared out their CR merch from their store in a final sale around Thanksgiving.Its fun to speculate but what i expect is for GnS to be the "hosting" site while now CR is "hosting" GnS stream of CritRole. I do expect all merch that can be called in to be sold thru CR stores
  • 10:05 PM - 5ekyu quoted Parmandur in post Matt Colville’s Strongholds and Followers
    The adventures don't suggest the game ends at 11th level; most people stop playing around 11th level, so the market for higher level content is limited, and therefore less explored. It is further limited by the fact that people who do play higher and higher level want material more focused towards their characters specifically, which is basically impossible to make a mass market product for.Agreement, in part, that by the time my games have reached even mid-tier-2 they are always highly customized and at best "official modules" are used like junkyards and thrist stores for useful parts i can incorporate, It would be more useful for 7th+ for products featuring say a dozen or more challenges that have (re)usable maps foes etc with a half dozen of hooks each. Save me some encounter prep without wasting a lot of time on more global setup and story, i already got that. Think like say Sprawl Sites (old Shadowrun Mapbook) but with say 3 different sets of foes at three tiers and ideas each (fewer maps...
  • 08:58 AM - Charlaquin quoted Parmandur in post Why 5E may be the last edition of D&D
    Runequest is still going, too: again, not really familiar with the system directly, but it does seem to have staying power. Yeah, but who's really playing it? I'd be willing to bet the significant majority are long-term fans, with very few newcomers. Not so with D&D, because it's willing to adapt as game design evolves. I would prefer if they were innovative rather than just adaptive, but I get it. Can't scare away the old guard or there's no one to bring the new guard in, which was 4e's real problem. But, what I would prefer doesn't really matter. Sticking with 5e's system for as long as they can is good business, at least in the short term.
  • 08:05 AM - Charlaquin quoted Parmandur in post Why 5E may be the last edition of D&D
    There are a million articles out there that argue CoC is the best RPG ever (only ever played CoC d20 myself, so I am not personally familiar). The game seems to be chugging along just fine after all these years. Just because something is old doesn't mean it is dated, if it's done right. It’s really, really fiddly and horribly imbalanced. When it was designed, it was a far more accessible system than its competition, but by today’s standards it’s an overwrought mess. The only reason CoC is well-regarded where most games that use the BRP engine are forgotten is branding. A lot of people are familiar with Lovecraft, and people like what they’re familiar with. If it wasn’t for the title having “Cthulhu” in it, it would be just another not-D&D roleplaying game (or perhaps not-Vampire the Masquerade, given its genre).
  • 07:00 AM - Zardnaar quoted Parmandur in post Why 5E may be the last edition of D&D
    You could easily say much the same about the Lego films (and interestingly the director appears to be the director who did the amazing Lego Batman). Another example, incidentally, if a major studio sinking money into another companies intellectual property. But, yes, generic fantasy is the brand: the ability to tell nearly endless generic fantasy stories in a family friendly manner. A Hollywood gold mine when finally tapped. The main fantasy franchise isn't GoT, but LotR, which is necessarily limited. A D&D cinematic universe could go on and on and on with no worry about "staying true to the original story." Big difference. 1. Lego is a world wide phenomenon. 2. They have had ten years+of good to great game development. 3. Childhood memories going back generations. 4. Successful outside the USA (D&D is niche in USA, outside its a lot smaller). 5. Better managed IPs (no detested editions, no bad games, no major blunders).
  • 06:39 AM - Retreater quoted Parmandur in post Why 5E may be the last edition of D&D
    There are a million articles out there that argue CoC is the best RPG ever (only ever played CoC d20 myself, so I am not personally familiar). The game seems to be chugging along just fine after all these years. Just because something is old doesn't mean it is dated, if it's done right. I think CoC is a fantastic game for what it sets out to do. I recently wrapped up my first campaign with that system after trying it over a 25 year span. The new edition makes a few slight but welcome improvements.
  • 12:49 AM - Zardnaar quoted Parmandur in post Why 5E may be the last edition of D&D
    The studios are looking for big budget franchises: if you want an indication of what level of budget D&D will get, look at the release date they have set for it. Release date doesn't matter. Are they dropping $200 million+ into it. If they're not its not big budget.
  • 12:35 AM - Zardnaar quoted Parmandur in post Why 5E may be the last edition of D&D
    On the contrary, Paramount has put a rather ridiculous amount into the Transformers movies, an IP wholly owned by Hasbro. The potential of toy money is a win-win for the studio. We are not looking at a low-budget film in the works, here. Big difference in scale. Transformers is worth a lot more than D&D was at any point in their overlapping history. It was massive in the 80's even compared with 80's golden age D&D. All those 80'skids are adults now often with kids of their own. Some played D&D, huge numbers had transformers. Transformers is also on a downwards spiral (style over substance crap story telling). And they had a plotline there the movies could follow up on. That is mass market penetration.


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