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Old 27th December 2004, 03:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Feats Database??

As a sub-forumn to this one, there is a new Feats database. Can someone (perhaps michael) let us know about this project?

Are you planning on entering all of the SRD feats?

I have two netbook collections of feats (Gryphon's netbook of feats by Robert Smith) and the FanCC's Netbook of feats. Are you going to be adding these as well?

Are these feats for D&D only or are you going to have a way of distingusing feats for D20 Modern? How about other D20 games?

Is there a way to add commments?
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Old 27th December 2004, 04:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 27th December 2004, 04:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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As a sub-forumn to this one, there is a new Feats database. Can someone (perhaps michael) let us know about this project?

Are you planning on entering all of the SRD feats?
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I have two netbook collections of feats (Gryphon's netbook of feats by Robert Smith) and the FanCC's Netbook of feats. Are you going to be adding these as well?
Once I'm satisfied the bugs are shaken out of the editor and the new postings mechanics I'll open this up so that anyone can add feats to the database.

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Are these feats for D&D only or are you going to have a way of distingusing feats for D20 Modern? How about other D20 games?
The feats will be for all d20 games. The system allows you to search according to terms so you can find feats from a specific book or source. You can also sort feats by two terms instead of the usual 1 vbulletin allows. By default the system sorts by name and doesn't use a second term. Another fun setup is to sort by feat type and then by name. You can also sort by prerequisites then by name.

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Is there a way to add commments?
Yes, when I turn it on Again, this is still being debugged and I'm also waiting on P-kitty and Russ to decide on the rules for posting in this section of the site.
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Old 27th December 2004, 04:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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We're really impressed, though. We're hoping that Michael can do this for any number of databases; I've been having "feat overload" recently when trying to create Grim Tales and d20 Modern characters, and this would help tremendously.
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Old 27th December 2004, 06:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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would it be possible to see the source of these feats as well?
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Old 27th December 2004, 06:21 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yup, that's essential for sorting purposes. There will be an entry for source. That way you can sort by SRD, or Dusk, or d20 Modern, or what have you.
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Old 27th December 2004, 06:22 PM   #7 (permalink)
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would it be possible to see the source of these feats as well?
To an extent. As each feat is an OGL document, we can't use IP (including company/product names) in any way except for in s15 of the OGL. The source will be referenced in s15 of each feat's OGL, though.
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Old 28th December 2004, 05:31 AM   #8 (permalink)
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That sucks - I would love to be able to sort by wotc books/fr books/mongoose books etc. Or to be able to specify "I have these books" and only see feats from those books.
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Old 28th December 2004, 11:09 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Interesting project.

One thing I think is needed is a Martial type of feat for all the feats that can be taken as bonus feat by a Fighter. WotC's insistence that they should be considered General feats is puzzling.

What are the plans for other databases? Spells? Monsters? I'm kinda awed at the colossal work that would represent either of them...
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Old 28th December 2004, 01:04 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Depending on how this one goes, it isn't too difficult to use the same method for databases of other things. Spells seems the next logical choice. Monsters seems fairly logical, too. Magic Items?

I'm sure there are plenty of uses for the system.
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Old 28th December 2004, 01:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Spells are the next step, but then the REVIEWS section beckons. After that I can go back to other things. But remember that this is still very much a prototype. For instance, Russ wants character gen functionality. While that's possible, it does mean the computer will have to be MUCH stricter about the data it will accept from the user.

I also will probably need to divorce the code from being a forum tack on. Tacking on one database is fine, but if I tack on 6 or 7 then the code suddenly has ballooned to several times its original size and that could be problematic.

It's taken me 6 months to get this far, so please be patient. At least these days I'm not driving a truck. However, I'm about at the end of my bankroll and I'm back in school. In January I'll have to get a job and, once again, the time I'll have to donate to coding will be reduced.

EDIT: As for Monsters, I've spoken with Boz of the Creature Catalogue about database merger. That will come after the reviews database merger.

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Old 28th December 2004, 01:18 PM   #12 (permalink)
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For instance, Russ wants character gen functionality.
Not strictly - that's a bit more advanced than the idea I had in mind.

My idea was that you check off items (feats, spells, monsters, what-have-you) as "favourites" (maybe using the subscribe thread system somehow?), and then you can click to go to a page which basically lists your favourites in one place, with all the details. Basically, it is a page which is your own personalised "campaign guide" - you could print it out or refer your players to it, or whatever.

Perhaps there could even be a couple of input boxes where you put a title, URL of an image and space for an introduction. You then have a neat URL which describes your campaign world's mechanics, and what feats, spells, monsters and so forth you are using in it.

I don't know if that's technically doable, though. Only Michael can answer that one. I think it's a cool idea, though!
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Yup, it's a cool one.

But I still think the feat db would be more usable if fighter feats are their own category!
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Old 28th December 2004, 01:30 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Gez, didn't you have a SRD spell db once?
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Old 28th December 2004, 01:59 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Oh yeah. 3.5. killed it, though. Didn't felt like looking for each new or modified spell in the new SRD, what with the changes in schools, in levels, and in names...

It used to be an XML file rather than an actual DB, though. I know that XML is just a tree-shaped DB format, but still...

And it wasn't SRD, but meant to be a definitive, complete spell list, including closed content, and without all the section 15 clutter, and all that. Which meant that I couldn't legally distribute the full version. And so on.

So, for various reasons, I lost the will to maintain it and continue to upgrade it.
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Also there are a few folks around here that have build their own SRD websites, Sage comes to mind as being the winner of the contest here. I'm pretty sure they had to use a db or at least a xml file for those to work. We might ask them if they are willing to share.
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While I won't be able to use it for the time being, the database promises to be a very cool feature for the community. If the Monster Database is merged with the Creature Catalog, will the CC still be accessible for non-supporters?
I realize it is highly unlikely to happen, but a smaller version would be interesting for Living Enworld approved content.
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Yup, it's a cool one.

But I still think the feat db would be more usable if fighter feats are their own category!
Search the special column for "fighter bonus feats" and you'll bring up the complete list of fighter bonus feats

I'll be working on several preset searches a bit later.
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One thing I think is needed is a Martial type of feat for all the feats that can be taken as bonus feat by a Fighter. WotC's insistence that they should be considered General feats is puzzling.
Not really. It means that the bonus-featness becomes part of the fighter class, where it belongs, rather than the feats themselves. It becomes important if you have several classes that get bonus feats from slightly different lists. For example, see Arcana Unearthed: Mage blades, totem warriors, unfettered, and warmains all get bonus feats as class features, but with different lists. Looking at WOTC's D&D stuff, you get the same thing with Psychic warriors and samurai (OA version).
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Not really. It means that the bonus-featness becomes part of the fighter class, where it belongs, rather than the feats themselves. It becomes important if you have several classes that get bonus feats from slightly different lists. For example, see Arcana Unearthed: Mage blades, totem warriors, unfettered, and warmains all get bonus feats as class features, but with different lists. Looking at WOTC's D&D stuff, you get the same thing with Psychic warriors and samurai (OA version).
With 3.5 WotC seems to be moving away from specific lists, included with class entries. For instance, the 3.5 psychic warrior takes feats either from the fighter list, or those with the psionic descriptor. Fighter bonus feats are pretty much 'Martial' feats anyway. They simply tag the feat in the Special section rather than with a different type.
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