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14th September 2005, 10:48 AM
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| | Gnomish Root Tosser
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Southern California
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| Moratorium on 4e threads?
As I write this post there are three - THREE! - active threads all on the front page pertaining to 4e.
(And when hit "Submit New Thread," there will be four - fitting, eh?)
May I ask that we have a moratorium on 4e threads until 4e is acutally announced, or better yet, in the stores? And may I urge my fellow ENWorlders to boycott all threads pertaining to 4e (including this one)?
Remember...ONLY YOU CAN STOP THE MADNESS! 
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14th September 2005, 11:12 AM
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| | The Gnome King
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| Clearly you are a plant trying to keep the truth from coming out. | |
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14th September 2005, 11:17 AM
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| | Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Texas.
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| I don't understand the problem with 4e threads. It seems to me that "don't read a 4e thread" is the easiest solution for those that find 4e threads offensive. | |
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14th September 2005, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by philreed I don't understand the problem with 4e threads. It seems to me that "don't read a 4e thread" is the easiest solution for those that find 4e threads offensive. | I never read 4th Edition threads
But, why would anyone who doesn't like 4th edition threads actually start one themselves?  | |
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14th September 2005, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Fester I never read 4th Edition threads | Good to hear!  Quote: |
Originally Posted by Fester But, why would anyone who doesn't like 4th edition threads actually start one themselves? | I don't think anyone can answer that question. It's likely destined to go down as one of the "age-old questions that baffle the learned men." | |
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14th September 2005, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Fester But, why would anyone who doesn't like 4th edition threads actually start one themselves? | Perhaps starting threads is fun? If you want to participate in a 4e thread your posts are so far down the list that nobody will read them.
I'm off to start a moratorium on moratorium threads. Everyone stop discussing 4e until its up. | |
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14th September 2005, 01:53 PM
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| | Registered User
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| You all miss the signs! It's like a mantra, if we repeat it long enough, it will come true! It's four threads on page one calling for edition number four. You will see D&D will answer the call  ! | |
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14th September 2005, 02:15 PM
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| 4ed exists.
just open up your Hackmaster GMG and read it in print.
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14th September 2005, 03:10 PM
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| | Registered User
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| I have made a shirt from the cloth I've woven from 4e threads. It is comfy and cool, and dare I say, stylish.
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14th September 2005, 03:44 PM
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| | Demiurge of Califia
Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Diego, CA USA
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| Why talk about 4th edition when we could be talking about something really important, 5th edition? | |
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15th September 2005, 04:35 AM
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| | Gnomish Root Tosser
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Southern California
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Originally Posted by StupidSmurf I have made a shirt from the cloth I've woven from 4e threads. It is comfy and cool, and dare I say, stylish. | 
There's enough thread to clothe an army - stylishly, I dare say.
__________________ On weird fantasy: "The Otus/Elmore rule: When adding something new to the campaign, try and imagine how Erol Otus would depict it. If you can, that's far enough...it's a good idea. If you can picture a Larry Elmore version...it's far too mundane and boring, excise immediately." - Kellri, K&K Alehouse I have a campaign wiki! Check it out! ACS / LAF | |
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15th September 2005, 04:41 AM
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| | That's Latin for "cool"
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15th September 2005, 05:01 AM
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| | Epic Oozemaster
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| You know that this is only adding to the problem, not helping anything right? | |
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15th September 2005, 05:01 AM
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| | Mod Squad
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Originally Posted by philreed I don't understand the problem with 4e threads. It seems to me that "don't read a 4e thread" is the easiest solution for those that find 4e threads offensive. | Some folks feel that alarmist discussion, and the anger it generates towards WotC are counterproductive, and do harm to our community as a whole. For one taking this stance, ignoring the threads is rather like allowing wounds to fester.
To counter your argument - I don't understand the need for new 4e threads. We have so many of them already, why do we need more? Why should 10% or so of the front page be taken up with discusson of a topic that as yet has no factual basis whatsoever, and arguably has deleterious effects on our community? | |
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15th September 2005, 05:07 AM
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| | Epic Oozemaster
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Originally Posted by Umbran To counter your argument - I don't understand the need for new 4e threads. We have so many of them already, why do we need more? Why should 10% or so of the front page be taken up with discusson of a topic that as yet has no factual basis whatsoever, and arguably has deleterious effects on our community? | Because people make it impossble to continue the discussion in the orginally threads so people feel they have to start new ones to have a discussion. Its hard to have a serious thread where 2/3rds of the posts are non productive. | |
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15th September 2005, 05:12 AM
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| | Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newington, CT
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| But, but, what would I ever do with myself if I didn't have a new 4e post every week?!??!?!?
Seriously, though, this may work for awhile, but (even as much as I loathe the 4e threads) eventually this thread will be off page 1, people will forget, and 4e threads will again flourish on a weekly (daily?) basis.
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15th September 2005, 05:16 AM
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| I've never started a 4E thread. I feel left out.
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15th September 2005, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Crothian Because people make it impossble to continue the discussion in the orginally threads so people feel they have to start new ones to have a discussion. Its hard to have a serious thread where 2/3rds of the posts are non productive. | Except that most of the 4e threads I have seen go like this: lots of 4e speculation; anyone who doesnt speculate is told not to "shut down the thread"; people from WOTC who comment on the thread are summarily dismissed as being spreaders of disinformation.
For me it isnt the threads themselves, its the general tone of them.
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15th September 2005, 05:28 AM
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| | Community Supporter
Join Date: May 2005 Location: Alexandria
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| I believe there is enough interest and threads on the topic that a 4E forum should be created. That would solve all of the problems that have come up.
No more difficulty locating the old 4E threads. No more reason for people to be annoyed and post those troublesome, humorous comments that make it impossible for serious 4E discussion to continue. No more problem with too many threads about a product that WotC employees flatly deny is currently in the works, nor need to insinuate they are liars.
"d20 Modern, d20 System & OGL Games" has it's own forum, and 4E needs its own forum, too. It's popularity as a topic of serious discussion is only going to increase as we get closer to next week's release date. | |
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15th September 2005, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by philreed I don't understand the problem with 4e threads. It seems to me that "don't read a 4e thread" is the easiest solution for those that find 4e threads offensive. | It's similar to a car wreck. you just can't look away!!!
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